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#901 RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules by MiesMosel 25.05.2016 23:35

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The device ID is: 8086:2923 [1458/B005] for: Intel ICH9 82801IB 4-port Sata AHCI Mode
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Please, could somebody help me by inserting the AHCI OROM v2.00H into the P35DS3.F14 BIOS File ?

#902 RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules by Fernando 25.05.2016 23:45

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Zitat von MiesMosel im Beitrag #906
The device ID is: 8086:2923
That means, that the Controller is natively not supported by Intel, if running in AHCI mode.
Zitat von MiesMosel im Beitrag #906
Please, could somebody help me by inserting the AHCI OROM v2.00H into the .F14 BIOS File ?
I can do it tomorrow morning, if you attach the BIOS file or give me the link to it.

#903 RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules by MiesMosel 26.05.2016 00:01

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Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #907
That means, that the Controller is natively not supported by Intel, if running in AHCI mode.

And what means that ..? It's only a pseudo-OROM by Intel?

There is also a JMicron RAID OROM for the last 2 ports.
PCI ID -> 197B:2363 [1458/B000]


Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #907
I can do it tomorrow morning, if you attach the BIOS file or give me the link to it.

It's attached obove! Thanx for helping!!

#904 RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules by VinnyG 26.05.2016 07:35

I wanna know if my sata controller is compatible with the raid roms

my motherboard is an Asus p8z68-m pro and according to udi software the intel sata controllers ID's are:
VEN_8086 and DEV_1C02
In the OP you say that the modules are for the DEV_2822/DEV_282a controller
But I saw you testing those modules/drivers on another thread in the Asus P8Z68V-pro which seems to have the same controller as mine

I'm confused, sorry.

EDIT by Fernando: Unneeded blank lines removed (to save space)

#905 RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules by Fernando 26.05.2016 11:22

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Zitat von MiesMosel im Beitrag #908
And what means that ..? It's only a pseudo-OROM by Intel?
No, Intel ICH9 Southbridges (without any letter behind the number 9) have not been designed by Intel to support the standard AHCI protocol. Nevertheless some mainboard manufacturers (here: Gigabyte) made the AHCI capable by adding the required features into the BIOS.
I do not really know, whether this fact has any impact on your tests.
Zitat von MiesMosel im Beitrag #908
Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #907
I can do it tomorrow morning, if you attach the BIOS file or give me the link to it.
It's attached obove!
I were not able to download the file from there. I get an error warning regarding malware on zippyshare.com. Meanwhile I found the file >here< on Gigabyte's support page and downloaded it.

After having opened the BIOS with CBROM I realized, that the Intel AHCI ROM module is located above the sensitive MEMINIT module and cannot be simply replaced by using CBROM32_198.
Then I extracted the Intel AHCI ROM v1.20E from the F14 BIOS file, opened it with an Hex Editor and compared the code with the code of the "standard" Intel AHCI ROM v1.20E module, which has been primarily designed for 5-Series chipset AHCI Controllers (DEV_3B22). I found a lot of code differences, beginning with the fact, that the AHCI ROM module, which is within the Gigabyte BIOS P35DS3.F14, obviously has been designed for the "Intel(R) ICH8R/DH/DO SATA AHCI Controller" (DEV_2821) and not for the "Intel(R) ICH9 SATA AHCI Controller" with the DeviceID DEV_2823.
My conclusion: I doubt, that your Gigabyte mainboard with an Intel ICH9 Southbridge is an adequate candidate for testing the new Intel AHCI ROM v2.00h. Furthermore it will be not easy to get this module properly inserted into the F14 BIOS (has to be done with a "dummy" module and an old CBROM version, but I have neither the time nor the required experience to do it).

Thank you very much for your willingness to help us and for the time you have spent to start the test. I am sorry, but this is all I could do in this case.

#906 RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules by Fernando 26.05.2016 11:37

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@VinnyG:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!

Zitat von VinnyG im Beitrag #909
I wanna know if my sata controller is compatible with the raid roms
All Intel 6-Series Desktop mainboards have a rather similar on-board Intel SATA Controller, but the DeviceID of the Controller depends on the SATA mode, which has been chosen within the BIOS.
If the Intel 6-Series Chipset SATA Controller is running in AHCI mode, its DeviceID is DEV_1C02, whereas it will be changed to DEV_2822, if it is running in RAID mode.
Since the Intel 6-Series Chipset mainboards neither need nor use any Intel AHCI ROM module, the only interesting BIOS modules regarding the Intel SATA Controller are the RAID ones (LEGACY RAID ROM resp. EFI "SataDriver"), but they will only be used by the system, if you have set the Intel SATA Controller to "RAID" mode.
Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)

#907 RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules by MiesMosel 26.05.2016 14:32

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Hello Fernando!

Thank you for your Reply !!

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #910
No, Intel ICH9 Southbridges (without any letter behind the number 9) have not been designed by Intel to support the standard AHCI protocol. Nevertheless some mainboard manufacturers (here: Gigabyte) made the AHCI capable by adding the required features into the BIOS.
I do not really know, whether this fact has any impact on your tests.
. . .
I extracted the Intel AHCI ROM v1.20E from the F14 BIOS file, opened it with an Hex Editor and compared the code with the code of the "standard" Intel AHCI ROM v1.20E module, which has been primarily designed for 5-Series chipset AHCI Controllers (DEV_3B22). I found a lot of code differences, beginning with the fact, that the AHCI ROM module, which is within the Gigabyte BIOS P35DS3.F14, obviously has been designed for the "Intel(R) ICH8R/DH/DO SATA AHCI Controller" (DEV_2821) and not for the "Intel(R) ICH9 SATA AHCI Controller" with the DeviceID DEV_2823.

I've seen now, that the earlier BIOS F.12 and older has an ICH8AHCI.BIN in it (AHCI OROM Version 1.07).

With the Version Numbers of ICH5/6/7/8/9 could be similar to AMD SB6x0/7x0/8x0/9x0, that some function are nearly the same and should be working with different Versions AHCI OROMs.
So, that's why ICH9 could be the same as the ICH8R, maybe only refresh. (That's are only thoughts without exact facts for understanding it vaguely!)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #910
I were not able to download the file from there. I get an error warning regarding malware on zippyshare.com.
It's only advertising there. Sorry, but I use µBlock/Ad-Blocker, so I don't see this anymore.

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #910
After having opened the BIOS with CBROM I realized, that the Intel AHCI ROM module is located above the sensitive MEMINIT module and cannot be simply replaced by using CBROM32_198.
. . .
My conclusion: I doubt, that your Gigabyte mainboard with an Intel ICH9 Southbridge is an adequate candidate for testing the new Intel AHCI ROM v2.00h. Furthermore it will be not easy to get this module properly inserted into the F14 BIOS (has to be done with a "dummy" module and an old CBROM version, ...)

So, then it's not a shame for me haven't completed it yet.
I don't like Gigabyte Boards in that way. I love my ASRock Boards with AMI (UEFI)BIOS, which are definitly easy to edit !!

If someone could help me to do that with the dummy module, please contact me!

Best regards, MiMo

#908 RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules by VinnyG 27.05.2016 06:36

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #911
Since the Intel 6-Series Chipset mainboards neither need nor use any Intel AHCI ROM module, the only interesting BIOS modules regarding the Intel SATA Controller are the RAID ones (LEGACY RAID ROM resp. EFI "SataDriver"), but they will only be used by the system, if you have set the Intel SATA Controller to "RAID" mode.
Thank you
but I'll be able to revert back to AHCI after flashing the RAID ROM module to the bios?? will I lose anything by doing that?

sorry for the noob questions

EDIT by Fernando: Unneeded parts of the fully quoted text removed (to save space)

#909 RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules by Fernando 27.05.2016 10:18

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Zitat von VinnyG im Beitrag #913
but I'll be able to revert back to AHCI after flashing the RAID ROM module to the bios??
Yes!

Zitat
will I lose anything by doing that?

No.

#910 RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules by ricktendo 29.05.2016 19:21

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Trying to update/replace the following: ROM IMSM RAID for SATA 8.5.2.1002
It has a vendor_id of 8086 and device_id of 8087, what roms are compatible?

Thank you

#911 RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules by Fernando 29.05.2016 21:42

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@ricktendo:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum! Is it possible, that we already had contact within another Forum? Your nickname sounds rather familiar for me.

Zitat von ricktendo im Beitrag #915
Trying to update/replace the following: ROM IMSM RAID for SATA 8.5.2.1002
It has a vendor_id of 8086 and device_id of 8087
A RAID Controller with the DeviceID DEV_8087 doesn't exist.
Can you put the RAID ROM module into a ZIP or RAR archive and attach it? Then I will do a deeper look into the file.
Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)

#912 RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules by ricktendo 29.05.2016 21:55

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Zitat
A RAID Controller with the DeviceID DEV_8087 doesn't exist.
Can you put the RAID ROM module into a ZIP or RAR archive and attach it? Then I will do a deeper look into the file.

Thank you, thanks to this forum I was able to update the lan rom, vbios and one raid rom. My Intel Board DQ45CB bios has 8086, 2e12 and this one was found by UBU and updated, only the 8087 one is a mystery to me what rom to use. (also do not know how to update my intel mei firmware, I notice the extracted uncompressed bin has some extra data at the start of the file)

Off Topic: we may have run into each other on the DriverPacks.net, Station Drivers, LaptopVideo2Go, RyanVM, MSFN or WinCert forums.

#913 RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules by Fernando 29.05.2016 22:35

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@ricktendo:
Thanks for having attached the related Intel RAID ROM.
As you can see here, the DeviceID of the matching Intel SATA RAID Controller is DEV_2822:

So the mainboard manufacturer obviously has done a mistake by editing the "8087" as DeviceID while insering the Intel MSM RAID ROM module.

Zitat von ricktendo im Beitrag #915
what roms are compatible?
All Intel RST RAID ROM modules for DEV_2822 Intel RAID Controllers, but for your old Intel chipset system I recommend to take the Intel RST RAID ROM v11.2.0.1527.

#914 RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules by ricktendo 29.05.2016 22:44

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Thank you Fernando, any reason not to use 11.6.0.1702 as this is closest to the driver my board uses?
What about MEI, can you point me in the right direction for this?

#915 RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules by Fernando 29.05.2016 23:24

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Zitat von ricktendo im Beitrag #919
any reason not to use 11.6.0.1702 as this is closest to the driver my board uses?
As you can see within the start post of >this< thread, the Intel RST driver v11.2.0.1006 is the by far best Intel RAID driver, especially for older Intel chipset systems. The best matching Intel RAID ROM is v11.2.0.1527.

Zitat
What about MEI, can you point me in the right direction for this?

>Here< is the related Sub-Forum about the topic "Intel Management Engine".

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