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#16 RE: [BIOS] Flashing modded bios issue - Motile 14 - M141[BIOS] by drmusama 13.06.2020 20:58

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #14
@drmusama - Great to hear, and thanks for your testing and report Next time someone hands you BIOS and instructions, please follow exactly, or you may end up bricking your system
Mentioning this because I said stop when you see it, but you carried on testing more BIOS than necessary

About Chipset >> Memory stuff you mentioned, I am not sure what you mean (about drop down), and XMP will only be there if you have XMP programmed memory.
I just checked chipset, there is no memory related stuff there for speed/timings, only channel/bank interleaving. So, now, even more confused what you mean about "drop down" options? You'll have to show me image
I assume you already know what is possible in this BIOS, since you initially edited it with AMIBCP, we can't make things visible that are not there

While typing above reply about Chipset/Memory, I assumed maybe memory options were in Advanced then, I hadn't looked, but now I see not much there or chipset for memory, so your only option here will be to customize your SPD/XMP possibly and reflash it on your memory directly.
What memory speed/timings is it running at now? And what is the SPD and XMP profile speeds/timings?

Does your laptop have RGB keyboard LEDS?

@Dorin1996 - What is this motherboard model before I download anything, in case I've already unlocked the BIOS, and so I can keep your dump in a properly named folder.
Also, please link me to the stock BIOS download page. If you only need that one setting changed, then you don't really need menu unlocked BIOS, we can just directly change that setting live and or in a mod BIOS.



Okay so I will go one by one questions:

"I just checked chipset, there is no memory related stuff there for speed/timings, only channel/bank interleaving. So, now, even more confused what you mean about "drop down" options? You'll have to show me image"

AMIBCP shows some predefined memory speeds like 1333/1600/1866/2133/2400 in dropdown menu like this:

https://i.ibb.co/Js6BLm8/Capture.png

So I wasn't sure what will I see exactly once this menu is unhidden in BIOS - whether I would be able to enter any value I want in this section "Memory clock" - or whether it will be predefined value in dropdown menu like this - I guess I will find out once I flash the bios

#2:"What memory speed/timings is it running at now? And what is the SPD and XMP profile speeds/timings?"

Regarding this: not much that I know except memory is running at 2400 MHz - and judging by the Kingston's specs - it can run unlocked on XMP profile up to 3200 MHz - if the bios would allow it; I'm posting screenshot from CPU-z to answer this question - I believe you will find it more interesting:

https://i.ibb.co/6s9GFv2/Capture.png

P.S. I think what I managed to read somewhere on Kingston's website that the RAM would automatically OC' itself if motherboard allows it... But I will play with bios settings to see what is possible after you unlock it and post back more info here


#3: "Does your laptop have RGB keyboard LEDS?"

It has backlight option - but at the moment with this bios as it is - it only lights up in one (white light) with two lightning options - medium dimmed light and low dimmed light.

#17 RE: [BIOS] Flashing modded bios issue - Motile 14 - M141[BIOS] by Lost_N_BIOS 13.06.2020 21:19

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@Dorin1996 - Thanks - Do you need only setting changed, or do you want unlocked menu?

@drmusama - Ahh, thanks, I totally missed that "Memory Clock" setting, while I was looking around for timings etc. So, it seems you can at least set speed there, this and what I mentioned is your only real memory related settings in this BIOS.
Yes, those are the only possible memory speed options (1333-2400). You wont be able to enter anything, only select from those speeds. You should be able to do that now, since you have chipset visible, can you not see it?
Yes, if your board has XMP enabled then it would choose an XMP profile, if there was one at 2400 speed range (not likely, since this is 3200 memory), you can check all XMP profiles with HWINFO64 or possibly you can see them all in CPU-z SPD tab (it only shows 4, if there is 8+ profiles then you may not see XMP ones)

Thanks, looks like it's running as fast as it can on this board, 2400 CAS 14 - It may be able to do better timing at that speed, but you can't know for sure without testing that on some other board and then confirming stability.
And if you wanted to edit the timings you'd have to pay $25 for paid copy of Taiphoon Burner, and that may only work for you if #1 your memory is not write-protected, and #2 you find DDR4 board that we can edit BIOS on to unlock SPD Write Protection (may or may not be locked on this board, but it's not in BIOS so we can't adjust if it is locked)

I asked about RGB backlight because in the BIOS there is 3 (2 really) light effect options, in other BIOS this is for RGB keyboard and one controls sleep mode LED or pre-OS and other is while in OS lighting effects.
I was going to make visible for you, but unsure if white LED keyboard would work with those, but we can see what happens - I'll make visible for you anyway

#18 RE: [BIOS] Flashing modded bios issue - Motile 14 - M141[BIOS] by drmusama 13.06.2020 21:23

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #17
@Dorin1996 - Thanks - Do you need only setting changed, or do you want unlocked menu?

@drmusama - Ahh, thanks, I totally missed that "Memory Clock" setting, while I was looking around for timings etc. So, it seems you can at least set speed there, this and what I mentioned is your only real memory related settings in this BIOS.
Yes, those are the only possible memory speed options (1333-2400). You wont be able to enter anything, only select from those speeds. You should be able to do that now, since you have chipset visible, can you not see it?
Yes, if your board has XMP enabled then it would choose an XMP profile, if there was one at 2400 speed range (not likely, since this is 3200 memory), you can check all XMP profiles with HWINFO64 or possibly you can see them all in CPU-z SPD tab (it only shows 4, if there is 8+ profiles then you may not see XMP ones)

Thanks, looks like it's running as fast as it can on this board, 2400 CAS 14 - It may be able to do better timing at that speed, but you can't know for sure without testing that on some other board and then confirming stability.
And if you wanted to edit the timings you'd have to pay $25 for paid copy of Taiphoon Burner, and that may only work for you if #1 your memory is not write-protected, and #2 you find DDR4 board that we can edit BIOS on to unlock SPD Write Protection (may or may not be locked on this board, but it's not in BIOS so we can't adjust if it is locked)

I asked about RGB backlight because in the BIOS there is 3 (2 really) light effect options, in other BIOS this is for RGB keyboard and one controls sleep mode LED or pre-OS and other is while in OS lighting effects.
I was going to make visible for you, but unsure if white LED keyboard would work with those, but we can see what happens - I'll make visible for you anyway



Yay okay awesomeee


I'll inspect the entire BIOS to see what is possible once you unlock it and I flash it - and then post back to see..

#19 RE: [BIOS] Flashing modded bios issue - Motile 14 - M141[BIOS] by Dorin1996 13.06.2020 21:26

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #17
@Dorin1996 - Thanks - Do you need only setting changed, or do you want unlocked menu?


@Lost_N_BIOS - Well, if possible, unlocked menu. My main focus is only to enable "Wake up after Power Failure" .

#20 RE: [BIOS] Flashing modded bios issue - Motile 14 - M141[BIOS] by Lost_N_BIOS 13.06.2020 21:26

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@drmusama - what do you mean, you'll find out what is possible?? Ohh, about the keyboard LED's?
OK, unlocking BIOS now

#21 RE: [BIOS] Flashing modded bios issue - Motile 14 - M141[BIOS] by drmusama 13.06.2020 21:27

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #20
@drmusama - what do you mean, you'll find out what is possible?? Ohh, about the keyboard LED's?
OK, unlocking BIOS now


Yes the RGB's I'll make a light show if it really supports RGB haha and then post picture here

#22 RE: [BIOS] Flashing modded bios issue - Motile 14 - M141[BIOS] by Lost_N_BIOS 13.06.2020 21:53

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@drmusama - Here is your unlocked BIOS
2x ADV, Chipset, 2x Boot, Switch Exit/Save&Exit + make visible hidden stuff in orig ADV - Anything you still see missing in ADV/Chipset/Boot vs what you see in AMIBCP, show me image of that BIOS page and I will make further edit for you to unlock
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...402845869845753 << new Link/Edit

*** WARNING - To ANYONE with laptop and unlocked BIOS!!!! ***
DO NOT try to enable this graphics card or disable that card, switch cards etc. Otherwise you will end up with no display output (ie black screen) and no way to recover except by blind flash or with flash programmer.
You can change graphics related settings, like changing memory sizes, or core speeds etc, just don't try to disable one card or change which is main etc.

Additionally, be very careful when trying to undervolt CPU, you can leave BIOS unbootable due to CPU voltage too low (Sometimes even 0.05 is too much)

*** WARNING *** - This BIOS is user specific! If you are not user drmusama at Win-RAID.com forum, DO NOT USE THIS BIOS!!
If you do, and you are not drmusama, then you will loose your serial, UUID, OG NVRAM, and possibly LAN MAC ID as well.
You have been warned!!!


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@Dorin1996 - looking at your BIOS, this is Intel BIOS, so you don't have to use flashrom, and it's better if you don't anyway, but if you want to we can continue using that, let me know?
Ideal method to dump, edit, and flash your BIOS would be using FPT - method below to get started, unless you want to carry on with flashrom?
And, correct compatible FPT version is already included in your stock BIOS package, so adjust below info and carry on from the stock BIOS package folder instead

If you have already modified the BIOS in ANY way, you will need to re-flash it back to factory defaults using factory method (NOT FPT)!!!

If you do not have Intel ME drivers installed, install them now from your system driver download page, then start over here after reboot.
Check your BIOS' main page and see if ME FW version is shown. If not then > DOWNLOAD HWINFO64 HERE <

Once HWINFO is open, look at the large window on the left side, expand motherboard, and find the ME area.
Inside that section is the ME Firmware version. Take note of the version. (ie. write it down or get a screenshot)

Once you have that, go to the thread linked below, and in the section "C.2" find and download the matching ME System Tools Package for your system.
(ie if ME FW version = 10.x get V10 package, if 9.0-9.1 get V9.1 package, if 9.5 or above get V9.5 package etc)
> DOWNLOAD " ME System Tools " packages HERE <

Once downloaded, inside you will find Flash Programming Tool folder, and then inside that a Windows or Win/Win32 folder (NOT x64).
Highlight that Win/Win32 folder, then hold shift and press right click. Choose "open command window here" (Not power shell! >> * See Registry file below *).

If you get an error, reply to this post with a screenshot of it, OR write down the EXACT command entered and the EXACT error given.

((If "open command window here" does not appear, look for the "Simple Registry Edit" below...))

Step #1

Now you should be at the command prompt.
You are going to BACKUP the factory un-modified firmware, so type the following command:
Command: " FPTw.exe -bios -d biosreg.bin "

>> Attach the saved "biosreg.bin ", placed into a compressed ZIP/RAR file, to your next post!!! <<

Step #2

Right after you do that, try to write back the BIOS Region dump and see if you get any error(s).
Command: " FPTw.exe -bios -f biosreg.bin "
^^ This step is important! Don't forget! ^^

If you get an error, reply to this post with a screenshot of it, OR write down the EXACT command entered and the EXACT error given.

Here is a SIMPLE REGISTRY EDIT that adds "Open command window here as Administrator" to the right click menu, instead of Power Shell
Double-click downloaded file to install. Reboot after install may be required
> CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD CMD PROMPT REGISTRY ENTRY <

If the windows method above does NOT work for you...
Then you may have to copy all contents from the Flash Programming Tool \ DOS folder to the root of a Bootable USB disk and do the dump from DOS
( DOS command: " FPT.exe -bios -d biosreg.bin " )


* Edit - Actually, never mind, I can just edit stock BIOS and send to you to FPT flash, since stock package flashes entire BIOS directly with FPT anyway, so serial, UUID, MAC ID etc for this system is not stored in BIOS
So, I will check about unlock and get back to your soon! Disregard above, it's not needed, we can just edit stock and I'll show you how to flash BIOS region only (it's above anyway), once I make unlocked BIOS for you
But, for safety reasons, please go ahead and use the stock included FPT and make a complete backup to stick somewhere safe >> FPTw64.exe -d SPI.BIN

Unless you prefer using flashrom/linux? If so, let me know, and if you want to keep using that then I'll edit your backup, up to you

* Edit 2 - @Dorin1996 - Please zip for me one image of each main BIOS page you can currently see. Then also, please show me entire root of Advanced, so I can see what all submenus in there you can see now

#23 RE: [BIOS] Flashing modded bios issue - Motile 14 - M141[BIOS] by drmusama 13.06.2020 22:18

*Unnecessary quote removed to save space - Lost_N_BIOS

I already actually flashed it haha.. Most things are there just missing under north bridge tab => sub tab "Memory configuration" isn't there for some reason:

https://i.ibb.co/RcqWCgP/North-Bridge.jpg

I can only see "Socket 0 information" there tab - in AMIBCP shows there is "Memory configuration" tab beneath this one xd Can you mod it so I can see the "Memory configuration" tab as well please?


Edit: See here in "AMBCP" it shows it:

https://i.ibb.co/GV8WKZz/Capture.png

But on the modded bios it isn't there xD

#24 RE: [BIOS] Flashing modded bios issue - Motile 14 - M141[BIOS] by Lost_N_BIOS 13.06.2020 22:20

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@drmusama - You should have told me this previously, since I unlocked chipset for you yesterday
Fixing, please wait

#25 RE: [BIOS] Flashing modded bios issue - Motile 14 - M141[BIOS] by drmusama 13.06.2020 22:23

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #24
@drmusama - You should have told me this previously, since I unlocked chipset for you yesterday
Fixing, please wait


Haha I completely forgot.. I just checked if there is "Chipset" tab

#26 RE: [BIOS] Flashing modded bios issue - Motile 14 - M141[BIOS] by Lost_N_BIOS 13.06.2020 22:25

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I'm surprised you didn't mention, since you were focusing on memory
@drmusama - See original post #22 for new edit unlock

#27 RE: [BIOS] Flashing modded bios issue - Motile 14 - M141[BIOS] by Dorin1996 13.06.2020 22:34

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #22

@Dorin1996 - looking at your BIOS, this is Intel BIOS, so you don't have to use flashrom, and it's better if you don't anyway, but if you want to we can continue using that, let me know?
Ideal method to dump, edit, and flash your BIOS would be using FPT - method below to get started, unless you want to carry on with flashrom?
And, correct compatible FPT version is already included in your stock BIOS package, so adjust below info and carry on from the stock BIOS package folder instead

* Edit - Actually, never mind, I can just edit stock BIOS and send to you to FPT flash, since stock package flashes entire BIOS directly with FPT anyway, so serial, UUID, MAC ID etc for this system is not stored in BIOS
So, I will check about unlock and get back to your soon! Disregard above, it's not needed, we can just edit stock and I'll show you how to flash BIOS region only (it's above anyway), once I make unlocked BIOS for you
But, for safety reasons, please go ahead and use the stock included FPT and make a complete backup to stick somewhere safe >> FPTw64.exe -d SPI.BIN

Unless you prefer using flashrom/linux? If so, let me know, and if you want to keep using that then I'll edit your backup, up to you

* Edit 2 - @Dorin1996 - Please zip for me one image of each main BIOS page you can currently see. Then also, please show me entire root of Advanced, so I can see what all submenus in there you can see now


@Lost_N_BIOS I would like to keep using flashrom. Also I will send you a zip with pictures of each BIOS page right away.

#28 RE: [BIOS] Flashing modded bios issue - Motile 14 - M141[BIOS] by Lost_N_BIOS 13.06.2020 22:36

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Sorry all, but I have to leave shortly, will be back tonight in about 8 hours or so

#29 RE: [BIOS] Flashing modded bios issue - Motile 14 - M141[BIOS] by drmusama 13.06.2020 22:39

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #28
Sorry all, but I have to leave shortly, will be back tonight in about 8 hours or so


Yesss worksssssssssss thanks !! haha It seems there is memory overclock options as well!! :D I will check :D

#30 RE: [BIOS] Flashing modded bios issue - Motile 14 - M141[BIOS] by Lost_N_BIOS 13.06.2020 22:40

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Memory Overclock? Not shown in AMIBCP? If yes, show me, I didn't dig too deep into setup, so maybe only in setup not visible in AMIBCP

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