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#2956 RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools by ArtZ 21.05.2017 10:15

Zitat von plutomaniac im Beitrag #2961
@ ArtZ:

As I said for MEManuf, that error must have been there from before. It is very possible that some ISHC tests are not supported by OEM design. Everything is working just fine after the update so you can ignore that error or just use -NOISH.



I did not sleep much last night but I do know now the consequences of the errors shown on MEManuf when I don't use the -NOISH option.

MEManufWin64.exe -ISH -TEST <level>

- From levels 1 to 3

Error 481: ISH Test failed

Error 117: MEManuf Operation Failed


- While Level 4 is OK

MEManuf Operation Passed


As you probably know, HP computers have 'System Utilities and Diagnostics' built-in on BIOS. These utilities allow testing your system. One of them is 'Firmware Management' which allows 'BIOS Update' and 'BIOS Rollback'. When you upgrade the computer BIOS on a Boot Secure system, a copy of the BIOS file (xxxxx.bin) is copied into the hidden Windows SYSTEM partition on /EFI/HP folder. This folder has two other folders /BIOSUpdate and /BIOS. On the /BIOS folder we'll find three more folders /Current /New and /Previous.

So, when you boot your computer and you press <ESC> to access BIOS, you'll get the HP Setup Menu. Pressing now <F2>, you will enter into the 'System Utilities and Diagnostics' and you can manage the firmware.

The ME Firmware 11.0.24.1000_CON_LP_C0_UPDM_PRD_RGN does NOT allow to install a previous BIOS version to your computer while it was possible with original firmware 11.0.0.1183.

Now, if you try to install an older BIOS version from Windows 10, the HP BIOS Setup Program will advise you 'BIOS update is not allowed on this device due to a security set by the BIOS administrator'. HP BIOS Setup Program will only allow 'Create Recovery USB flash drive' and 'Copy BIOS to any file location' on your computer. No problem so far on the Windows side (except you cannot go back to previous BIOS versions).

However, as I explained before, the BIOS built-in utilities has the options to reload older BIOS versions saved on the hidden Windows SYSTEM partition and you can select them for 'BIOS Rollback' and 'BIOS Upgrade'. If you try to do so, you'll get now an error.

In other words, to use this new ME Firmware 11.0.24.1000 without errors, HP should modify their BIOS for not allowing us rollback or update it to a previous version. I think this is the cause of the MEManuf errors because these two BIOS options are not compatible with ME Firmware 11.0.24.1000. (You were right again) I haven't found any other problem so far.

As you can see, this is not a big issue. However, I've spent some time to describe here the problem because HP users, who want to use ME Firmware 11.0.24.1000, have be aware if they want to go back to previous BIOS release, it will not be possible and they will find errors on the BIOS built-in 'Firmware Management' menu. They can always upgrade to a newer BIOS release.

Last thing, you were right when you told me: 'A quick note: You need to use the PyInstaller 3 develop version as the master branch (3.2.1) does not support Python 3.6 yet. That's probably why you get errors'. I finally managed to install ME Analyser following your advice.

PS: After our conversation yesterday night, I tried to install a previous HP BIOS version and re-flash the ME Firmware 11.0.24.1000 to check if I had the same errors with other versions. There're 6 BIOS versions available from HP Support for my computer. I downloaded all of them but I couldn't install any, only reinstall the latest one. This is how I found the problem. I tried also using HP System Recovery USB dongle to revert my system to factory state just in case it had something to do with Windows 10 Creators Update. Well, now, I just need to reinstall my HP Pavilion x2 from scratch again... I love you!

Best regards

ArtZ

#2957 RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools by plutomaniac 21.05.2017 14:14

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You have confused everything and went into trouble for no reason. The system has no problem, none at all. Not before the update and not after. The BIOS downgrade is controlled by HP and it is very normal to not be able to downgrade to older versions due to security improvements. Such restrictions are imposed by HP and I've seen the "downgrade to earlier BIOS not allowed" or "supersedes all previous releases" notices at their BIOS changelogs very often. That feature has nothing to do with the ME and it has nothing to do with the recent update of said firmware. There is nothing special in this case.

#2958 RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools by ArtZ 21.05.2017 15:29

Hi,

Not here. I had BIOS F.16 installed for months. Few weeks ago (to clean a messy boot table -HP doesn't clean USB boot devices from the boot table, it duplicates them) I had rolled back to version F.14 for a clean install of Windows 10 Creators Update. I had more than 10 times the SanDisk USB Windows Setup dongle on the list and I couldn't find the proper entry to boot from it. I could see more than 10 identical entries 'SanDisk' and if you don't chose the right entry of 'SanDisk', the HP x2 will boot from the hard drive. The only way to clean a messy table on the x2 is upgrading or rolling down BIOS. Even if you install the same version od BIOS, the table won't clean up. I had no problem in April to go back to BIOS F.14, which cleans the table, and then going back to F.16 to install Windows 10 with the lastest firmawre. I can't now.

Believe me, there's a problem now. If I need to clean the table again, it won't be possible.

Best regards,

ArtZ

#2959 RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools by plutomaniac 21.05.2017 15:49

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That whole problem is irrelevant to ME. It should be a matter of performing a clear CMOS or resetting the BIOS NVRAM somehow, MEManuf is thus irrelevant. Maybe HP has implemented a check while BIOS updating/downgrading to check if the ME firmware of their own update is older that the currently flashed one but that does not have to do with the MEManuf errors which is what has been troubling you.

#2960 RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools by ArtZ 21.05.2017 16:07

I said already it's not a big issue. I know the HP x2 extremely well. When I bought it a year ago now, it was defective. It had to go back to HP Repair twice. Finally, they replaced the defective x2 for the one I'm using now because they couldn't repair it. I have made in the past many tests with HP Customer Support on the phone and I have often downgraded & updated BIOS on it following their instructions. I never ever had this issue. I've done again on April 26 for Windows 10.

As you said it's weird that the ME firmware can cause that but it's fact. HP BIOS are very special... (and I know what I'm talking about because I'm an engineer and I was the IT Director R&D Europe for the HP Asset Management Division)

#2961 RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools by davidm71 23.05.2017 06:03

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Hi,

Stupid question. Maybe answered before but wondering why I get this warning message with MEInfoWin64:

"GBE Region does not exist"

Thanks

#2962 RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools by ArtZ 23.05.2017 08:37

Zitat von davidm71 im Beitrag #2967
Hi,

Stupid question. Maybe answered before but wondering why I get this warning message with MEInfoWin64:

"GBE Region does not exist"

Thanks


Your computer don't have an Ethernet network adapter.

#2963 RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools by chinobino 23.05.2017 12:36

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Zitat von ArtZ im Beitrag #2968
Zitat von davidm71 im Beitrag #2967
Hi,

Stupid question. Maybe answered before but wondering why I get this warning message with MEInfoWin64:

"GBE Region does not exist"

Thanks


Your computer don't have an Ethernet network adapter.



Your computer don't have an Intel Ethernet network adapter.

#2964 RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools by plutomaniac 23.05.2017 14:34

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Intel MEI Driver v11.7.0.1013 MEI-Only Installer
Intel MEI Driver v11.7.0.1011 (Windows 8.x & Windows 10) INF
Intel MEI Driver v11.7.0.1011 (Windows XP & Windows 7) INF
Intel MEI v11.7.0.1013 for Corporate systems Drivers & Software


Intel ME 11.7 Corporate PCH-H Firmware v11.7.0.1261



Intel ME 11.7 Corporate PCH-LP Firmware v11.7.0.1261



Intel ME 11.0 Consumer PCH-LP Firmware v11.0.26.3000



Intel ME 10.0 1.5MB Firmware v10.0.55.3000



Intel ME System Tools v11.0 r6

Added OEM advisory from Toshiba regarding INTEL-SA-00075/CVE-2017-5689

#2965 RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools by davidm71 23.05.2017 14:52

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Your absolutely correct. Dont have an Intel network adapter. Hit the nail on the head there. Thanks.

#2966 RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools by 100PIER 23.05.2017 17:07

@Fernando
I have installed, may by mistake, MEI driver v11.7.0.1013 to replace v11.7.0.1011 on my PC X99 consumer (MEI firmware size is 1.5 MB).
All is working correctly.
Does v11.7.0.1013 drivers for Consumer (1.5MB) and Corporate (5MB) are identical ?

#2967 RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools by davidm71 23.05.2017 17:12

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Also is it a concern if the OEM-ID is all zeros?

#2968 RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools by Fernando 23.05.2017 18:00

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Zitat von 100PIER im Beitrag #2972
Does v11.7.0.1013 drivers for Consumer (1.5MB) and Corporate (5MB) are identical?
The answer has been layed down by plutomaniac within the chapter A1 of the start post.

#2969 RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools by SalviaSage 24.05.2017 20:40

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Hi there. First of all, I am new to this forum and this is my first post.

I registered on this forum because according to my Device Manager my Intel(R) Management Engine Interface is not working. It gives this error:

This device cannot start. (Code 10)

STATUS_DEVICE_POWER_FAILURE


My motherboard is: ASrock X99 Extreme 11 Bios version: 3.20 (latest BIOS firmware version)

My ME Firmware Version is: 9.1.30.1008 (I really want to learn if it is the latest version or not, I downloaded this earlier https://github.com/platomav/MEAnalyzer but I don't really know how to use it)

My CPU is: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1630 v3 @ 3.70 GHz Processor Speed, Cache Size: 10 MB Socket type: 2011-v3

My Operating System is: Windows 10 64-Bit Pro latest version on current branch as of 5/24/2017

You guys seem like you know a lot about Intel ME and drivers. So, I have some questions.

1) How do I check to see if I have the latest Intel ME Firmware version in my BIOS. And, how do I update it if it needs to be updated.

2) How do I get the Intel(R) Management Engine Interface to not give the code 10 error and work, on the Device Manager.

3) I can see Intel has lots of installable files and drivers, and some of these are called the Intel ME drivers. Are these compatible with my Xeon CPU and which one of these Intel drivers/installers should I install on my computer?

Please reply here or send me a private message.
Thanks for your help!

#2970 RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools by Ferrous 24.05.2017 22:00

Zitat von SalviaSage im Beitrag #2975
My ME Firmware Version is: 9.1.30.1008

The latest ME FW of 9.1 1.5MB is 9.1.37.1002

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