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#31 RE: [Request] ASUS X79-Deluxe NVMe and Bifurcation Mod by Lost_N_BIOS 07.12.2019 07:50

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@Xenophobian - Thanks. You tested "Both" what? Stock and Bifurcation mod as I mentioned to test above? And that is manually setting that OC, correct? Not some Asus "Easy OC or Asus Profile/CPU upgrade" type preset, right? Also, please confirm, the BIOS with bifurcation ONLY edited by me has this issue??
If so, I do not know what would cause that, this is a simple BIOS settings/menu mod, and no one ever had this issue on any Asus X79 variants except a similar XMP/Memory voltage related one, when other items are updated in certain ways (I mean option rom updates, with certain tools or methods)
Since I don't remember, is this BIOS version I modified, the same version BIOS you were using before? If not, then it may be a stock BIOS issue/bug

Can you see your ME FW version in HWINFO64, and MeInfoWin.exe -verbose report looks OK (no "Error" showing anywhere)? Please check this, could be related to ME FW issue

* On your last post that I edited into the other. USB Flashback drive used doesn't matter, that's only a "This one works" or "This one doesnt' work" type of thing, there is no in-between that might flash and cause BIOS issues, but good thinking to test stuff like that.

#32 RE: [Request] ASUS X79-Deluxe NVMe and Bifurcation Mod by Xenophobian 10.12.2019 01:47

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Sorry for the lack of detail. I know how it can be trying to cross off all the check boxes.

I'm not entirely sure if the Bifurcation Mod by itself is the original file you modified, I downloaded it from the link in the post Deluxe made with the final versions. I tried the one that is supposed to be just the Bifurcation mod and then the one that is supposed to have ALL of the edits Deluxe made on top of the Bifurcation mod, same results with each, but the stock BIOS always works as intended.

As far as the overclock is concerned, I do not use the preset tools, this is just manually setting bclk to 100, core multiplier to 44, and voltage to 1.35 or Offset of +.100 (which is the same overclock I have when I'm using the unmodified version). I am not touching any memory overclock settings while testing. It doesn't really matter, trying to set any overclock above 42 multiplier results in 1.5v being supplied.

Not sure how to use the ME Analyzer tool but with the stock BIOS loaded my firmware shows "8.1, Build 1471, Hot Fix 51" - Assuming that wouldn't change if I'm using a modded version of the 4805 BIOS I'm currently using the stock version of?

#33 RE: [Request] ASUS X79-Deluxe NVMe and Bifurcation Mod by Lost_N_BIOS 10.12.2019 03:45

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@Xenophobian - Thanks, but everything is still unclear

It should be the file I made only, as long as you picked the one without Deluxe's additional edits. Really, for this stuff, since you are having issue, you should be using the files I provided directly for you here at your own request
Please also keep in mind, and clarify for me, which bifurcation BIOS you are using, because I made one with updated ucodes also (w/ repack in file name).

This is the thread (your thread here, one we are in now) is where all the edits I personally made was done, and be sure to go back and read all our posts in this thread because I did redo some edits (ie repack at bifurcation w/ ucodes).
So, with Stock BIOS when you set 42x multi, you don't get 1.5v applied, but with bifurcation mod (with, or without - which, or both?) you do get 1.5v vcore applied, correct?

To use MEA you drag and drop BIOS onto the MEA exe, I did not touch ME FW, so any BIOS I posted would only have stock ME FW in it. MEA is not MEinfoWin either, MEInfoWin is a tool you will find in the ME System Tools package, in a MEInfo Folder
MEA has nothing to do with what I asked above though, I was asking for you to check ME FW version/status/health in the board BIOS (not the file), in order to see if you see proper version, or 0.0.0.0 or N/A (ie corrupted ME FW)
This can only be checked how I mentioned above at post #31

And @Deluxe - what's going on here, why no reply or follow-up, are you not experiencing this vcore issue, with any BIOS I made?

#34 RE: [Request] ASUS X79-Deluxe NVMe and Bifurcation Mod by Xenophobian 10.12.2019 04:36

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Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #33
@Xenophobian - Thanks, but everything is still unclear

It should be the file I made only, as long as you picked the one without Deluxe's additional edits. Really, for this stuff, since you are having issue, you should be using the files I provided directly for you here at your own request
Please also keep in mind, and clarify for me, which bifurcation BIOS you are using, because I made one with updated ucodes also (w/ repack in file name).


I downloaded this file in your earlier post from this thread - Asus X79-DELUXE-4805-Bifurcation-Mod

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #33
This is the thread (your thread here, one we are in now) is where all the edits I personally made was done, and be sure to go back and read all our posts in this thread because I did redo some edits (ie repack at bifurcation w/ ucodes).
So, with Stock BIOS when you set 42x multi, you don't get 1.5v applied, but with bifurcation mod (with, or without - which, or both?) you do get 1.5v vcore applied, correct?


That is correct, if I apply 42, 43, 44, etc., using any of the modded BIOS files, I get 1.5v applied, but when I use the stock, un-modified BIOS file, it overclocks normally and the voltages are accurately applied.

For a specific breakdown in order of operations, I just got done trying this;

1) Downloaded the version of the BIOS "Asus X79-DELUXE-4805-Bifurcation-Mod" file you posted in this thread.
2) Formatted the USB stick I was using back to FAT32 just in case it had some DOS boot launcher from previous use - Loaded "X79DLX.CAP" from the .7z file onto the USB drive (installed in BIOS Flashback USB port).
3) Turned off the PC and allowed the BIOS Flashback feature to complete running (blinking light) after pressing and holding the button to start the process
4) Cleared CMOS with the on-board button.
5) Turned on PC and went into the BIOS to load Optimized Defaults.
6) Restarted and checked ME FW version;

http://v-rlaw.com/carni/images/overclock...oddedBIOS-1.jpg

7) Set manual overclock by changing to manual tuner and all core ratio of 44 - Manual vCore of 1.35v, that's it, no other changes;

http://v-rlaw.com/carni/images/overclock...oddedBIOS-2.jpg
http://v-rlaw.com/carni/images/overclock...oddedBIOS-3.jpg

8) Pressed F10 to apply changes and entered the BIOS again to see if the overclock applied and what the voltages were set at. The CPU was running at stock speeds still and the voltage was pegged at 1.5v;

http://v-rlaw.com/carni/images/overclock...oddedBIOS-4.jpg

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #33
To use MEA you drag and drop BIOS onto the MEA exe, I did not touch ME FW, so any BIOS I posted would only have stock ME FW in it. MEA is not MEinfoWin either, MEInfoWin is a tool you will find in the ME System Tools package, in a MEInfo Folder
MEA has nothing to do with what I asked above though, I was asking for you to check ME FW version/status/health in the board BIOS (not the file), in order to see if you see proper version, or 0.0.0.0 or N/A (ie corrupted ME FW)
This can only be checked how I mentioned above at post #31


Apologies, the first screenshot above should address this.

#35 RE: [Request] ASUS X79-Deluxe NVMe and Bifurcation Mod by Lost_N_BIOS 10.12.2019 05:21

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Thanks for details now. On the bifurcation mod BIOS, can you please show me Advanced >> PCI Subsystem Settings (Root of this page), so I can see if Access Level of User/Super is what's causing this issue (page should not be blank inside)
If you see settings in there, then I guess we'll have to go through this mod one step at a time until we find the cause, that's only way I know to solve this issue... Are you up for that? Maybe 3-5 BIOS tests one by one

What Level of LLC are you using? Well, I guess that doesn't matter, if you use same for stock and the mod BIOS

#36 RE: [Request] ASUS X79-Deluxe NVMe and Bifurcation Mod by Xenophobian 10.12.2019 07:23

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Sure, here is the menu and sub-menu's for PCI Subsystem Settings. Keep in mind I am sending you all of these screenshots while I have the Asus X79-DELUXE-4805-Bifurcation-Mod BIOS installed on the board.

http://v-rlaw.com/carni/images/overclock...oddedBIOS-5.jpg
http://v-rlaw.com/carni/images/overclock...oddedBIOS-6.jpg
http://v-rlaw.com/carni/images/overclock...oddedBIOS-7.jpg

I do not use LLC for my 24/7 overclocks. If I'm pushing that far with voltage to require LLC then it's only for max OC attempts. With +.100 offset on vCore it hit's 1.36 under light load and droops to 1.28 during an all-core stress test. At 4.4ghz that's enough to keep my 1680v2 stable.

I can actually dial in my overclock from memory at this point down to the offset and manual voltages (I disable any 'extreme' voltage settings and have all power limits still set to 100% + no LLC). Even memory voltage, frequency, primary, secondary and tertiary timings;

1.54v DRAM
2133mhz
9
9
9
27
2
6
208
24960
17
8
24
8
6
8
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4
5
5
5
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#37 RE: [Request] ASUS X79-Deluxe NVMe and Bifurcation Mod by Lost_N_BIOS 10.12.2019 07:50

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@Xenophobian - Thanks for the images, it's not a Access Level issue, or all/much of that would have been blank, so we ruled that out right away.
OK, only thing left to do here is redo the mod one step at a time, are you up for that?

Ohh, I forgot to ask to be sure, you can see an extended System Agent menu now (inside advanced), correct? I don't need images, just need you to confirm there is lots more settings in there now vs w/ stock BIOS.
Actually, you can confirm just be looking, you see Submenu >> IOH Configuration in there now correct? Stock System Agent does not have that at all, so you can just check that one thing

#38 RE: [Request] ASUS X79-Deluxe NVMe and Bifurcation Mod by Xenophobian 10.12.2019 17:41

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Correct all the new menu items for IOH Configuration and System Agent are present when I use the new BIOS. The Bifurcation settings and all, it's teasing me! I'll try whatever you're up for, just have to find the time at nights to run through the tests.

#39 RE: [Request] ASUS X79-Deluxe NVMe and Bifurcation Mod by Lost_N_BIOS 10.12.2019 21:00

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@ Xenophobian - Thanks, we shall proceed slowly then, until we find the culprit! Here is test #1 - NVME Mod BIOS only - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...427992176746150
This edit is done two ways, test UEFIT25 first, then if issue test MMT45. No need to test MMT45, if UEFIT25 is OK

#40 RE: [Request] ASUS X79-Deluxe NVMe and Bifurcation Mod by Xenophobian 11.12.2019 08:31

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BIOS Folder UEFIT25 worked just fine. So far so good.

#41 RE: [Request] ASUS X79-Deluxe NVMe and Bifurcation Mod by Lost_N_BIOS 11.12.2019 09:57

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This one, along w/ vcore please check >> Advanced >> PCI Subsystem Settings << Do you see that menu now (contents irrelevant ATM)
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...133354011469173

#42 RE: [Request] ASUS X79-Deluxe NVMe and Bifurcation Mod by Xenophobian 11.12.2019 10:41

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UEFITPCISub BIOS

vCore = Good
PCI Subsystem Settings = Good (can see the menu and contents)

#43 RE: [Request] ASUS X79-Deluxe NVMe and Bifurcation Mod by Lost_N_BIOS 11.12.2019 20:06

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@Xenophobian - Great, moving forward, here is two BIOS, both adding new System Agent menu in different ways. Please confirm both have (only) the new System Agent (other contents irrelevant for now), without VT-d at top, and do your vcore check.
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...938512323197101

I assume the vcore issue may come from one of these edits, SASwitch is original method I use on all other Asus X79 edits please test first, SASwap is swap method not generally used because it's an unnecessary edit method (ie more bytes changed overall).
I'm running into issues with another less common Asus X79 too (P9X79-WS-IMPI), maybe both your board and that one need this less common edit instead, possibly due to different BIOS engineers making these or something?
All other P9X79 variants have been fine with normal method to do this unlock, I done probably 10+ different versions across the many variants and BIOS versions.

#44 RE: [Request] ASUS X79-Deluxe NVMe and Bifurcation Mod by Xenophobian 12.12.2019 07:17

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Do I just rename the .bin files to .CAP or is there something else I need to do to use these?

#45 RE: [Request] ASUS X79-Deluxe NVMe and Bifurcation Mod by Lost_N_BIOS 12.12.2019 08:05

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@Xenophobian - Ahh, sorry about that! I forgot to put back into capsule for you, please wait, I will edit into this post in a few seconds.
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...215161389770578

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