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#16 Installing Windows 7 on Toshiba XG series by netdemon 04.04.2019 14:14

Hello to everyone
For the last few days I have a problem with which I struggle.
I upgraded my desktop PC with KXG50ZNV256GB NVME drive. Drive is connected to MB via PCIE adapter. I managed to make this drive visible from my current Windows 7 (64) system. My BIOS/UEFI doesnt' support NVME, but after some modding i managed to get drive bootable when partition sheme is GPT and ESP partition is present (for example I can boot Linux this way).
My intention is to clone my exsisting Windows system do the new drive. Unfortunatelly i can't do direct cloning because i have my system installed on MBR partiotion scheme with only one primary partition. Although BIOS is able to boot system from ESP partition there is no way to do “legacy boot”.
Is there any way to convert partition scheme from MBR to GPT, ad to create correct ESP partition without Windows reinstallation?
Or maybe there is a solution involving thirt party loaders like grub or clover? Is it possible to reach MBR partiotion on NVME drive from bootloader residing on another drive, and somehow chainload Windows boot files?

It is also very annoying that i can't do fresh install. Windows installer doesn't see the drive. Intergration of Hotfix KB2990941-v3 doesn't help at all, and I am aslo unable to give the installer correct drivers, because there are not signed correctly. I am able to use this drivers when I am using recovery console, but not to installation itself.

Thank you in advance for your help and best regards

#17 RE: [GUIDE] How to get Win7 clean installed onto an NVMe SSD by pepar 28.04.2019 06:15

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It is possible to install Win7 on an NVME SSD. Do you know about the hotfixes for Win 7 that give it native NVME support? If not, search this thread. I’d link, but I am thumbing away on an iPad. Or search internet in general for them. Likely, you will end up back on this thread. :)

“Windows 7” nvme hotfix

#18 RE: [GUIDE] How to get Win7 clean installed onto an NVMe SSD by pepar 30.04.2019 00:25

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While I somehow managed to work with the DISM tool to update my Win 7 install ISO with the service pack "2" rollup, I have failed several times to add the NVME hotfixes to the ISO. I have tried following this MS page, but some steps failed even though I had followed the instructions perfectly. As I am only a cut-and-paster, I haven't a clue what went wrong.

Sooo, is there somewhere that I could download a fully updated, including NVME hotfixes and drivers and USB 3.0 drivers, Windows 7 Pro 64-bit ISO?

Jeff

#19 RE: [GUIDE] How to get Win7 clean installed onto an NVMe SSD by Paulos7 30.04.2019 05:55

@pepar

Zitat von pepar im Beitrag #4560
is there somewhere that I could download a fully updated, including NVME hotfixes and drivers and USB 3.0 drivers, Windows 7 Pro 64-bit ISO?
If there is, I wouldn't trust it.

Sometimes copying and pasting won't work. Like when the tutorial is using a different version of Windows 7 than you have. Then you have to modify the text appropriately. Did you try the link I gave you before to the Winaero.com tutorial? I have the Microsoft link and the Winaero link saved, but I don't recall which one I used. Also, I don't think integrating the USB3.0 drivers into the ISO is going to do you any good. The Windows 7 installer on the USB3.0 flash drive will get you to the point of selecting a partition to install to, but will no longer be able to read from the USB3.0 flash drive with the ISO that the USB3.0 drivers were integrated into. I have had to use a separate USB2.0 flash drive for the USB3.0 drivers and the Samsung NVMe driver. If you find another way to make it work, let me know.

#20 RE: [GUIDE] How to get Win7 clean installed onto an NVMe SSD by pepar 30.04.2019 10:17

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:) good point.

I cut and paste DISM commands into cmd because I haven’t been a coder for 40 years. And then it was peek and poke! I will check the Winaero.com tutorial and try to familiarize myself with the process.

I never thought I’d say it, but Windows 10 is looking like an alternative.

Jeff

#21 RE: [GUIDE] How to get Win7 clean installed onto an NVMe SSD by pepar 30.04.2019 16:27

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@Paulos7 - I am stepping through the Winaero tutorial and notice that it integrates the Hotfixes only. Will I not need the NVME drivers also?

Thanks,
Jef

#22 RE: [GUIDE] How to get Win7 clean installed onto an NVMe SSD by Fernando 30.04.2019 16:40

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@pepar:
The MS NVMe Hotfix for Win7 contains the NVMe driver.

#23 RE: [GUIDE] How to get Win7 clean installed onto an NVMe SSD by pepar 30.04.2019 16:58

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@Fernando - thank you! The other tutorial I had used also requested the MS NVME drivers. Odd. Anyway, I successfully stepped through the Winaero tutorial. There were some commands I needed to edit due to my MSU's being named differently, but that was good as it prodded me to understand what I was doing.

I now have the committed, unmounted Win 7 install files which I assume I can pack into an ISO with a tool like MagicISO.

Jeff

#24 RE: [GUIDE] How to get Win7 clean installed onto an NVMe SSD by pepar 30.04.2019 17:02

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@Fernando, @Paulos7 - This tutorial only modified install.wim. Will I not need to hotfix boot.wim as well?

#25 RE: [GUIDE] How to get Win7 clean installed onto an NVMe SSD by Fernando 30.04.2019 17:46

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Zitat von pepar im Beitrag #4567
Will I not need to hotfix boot.wim as well?
Yes, if you want to get the OS installed onto the NVMe SSD.

#26 RE: [GUIDE] How to get Win7 clean installed onto an NVMe SSD by pepar 30.04.2019 17:49

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Thanks. I will soon see how well I can "adlib" and adapt the tutorial on doing the install.wim into doing the boot.wim as well.

edit: a light just came on when I get-wimnfo on boot.wim. It is showing Windows Seup AND Windows PE. If I want to use the thumbdrive to repair my installation, I should add the hotfixes into Win PE also?

#27 RE: [GUIDE] How to get Win7 clean installed onto an NVMe SSD by Paulos7 30.04.2019 17:56

@pepar
I believe that only the install.wim file is modified. I just compared both .wim files before and after the integration and only the size of the install.wim file had changed (+43.5MB). Every Win7 NVMe install I have done has used these .wim files produced from the integration process, and I have had no issues with the install process.

#28 RE: [GUIDE] How to get Win7 clean installed onto an NVMe SSD by pepar 30.04.2019 18:01

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Thanks. Can you comment on my question about modifying the Win PE image? I recall several times I want to repair my Win 7 install on my Intel 750 PCIe SSD and the error message was that the tool was not the one that was used to create the installation ... which I am now guessing means "I can't see your boot drive."

edit: I have already finished modding the boot.wim. Puzzling, the other tutorials I read modded both WIM files, install and boot.

edit 2: I am going to be brave (stupid?) and mod Win PE ...

edit 3: completed and on my thumbdrive. will know soon!

Jeff

#29 RE: [GUIDE] How to get Win7 clean installed onto an NVMe SSD by Fernando 30.04.2019 18:23

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@pepar
The WinPE image is only needed for the creation of a Live-CD/USB.

#30 RE: [GUIDE] How to get Win7 clean installed onto an NVMe SSD by pepar 30.04.2019 18:39

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Thanks. My install thumbdrive did not work even though I followed every step and had success on all of them. I am now writing the install ISO - without the hotfixes - to a DVD. And I will put NVME drivers on a second DVD. When I installed Win 7 several years ago on my computer with Intel 750 PCIe SSD, I did it that way. I didn't know anything about giving win 7 "native" NVME support, and the process worked.

Jeff

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