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#1066 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 22.07.2019 10:45

@canonkong
I am very interested,
how you reach this
Dietmar

PS: Do you have an idea, how to make USB ports on newer Intel boards to work under XP?
This would be a big step forward.

#1067 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by canonkong 22.07.2019 11:09

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@diderius6
Modify like win7 usb drivers for new platforms. You need to find some USB driver support XP and use XHCI 1.0 and modify them inf/sys files. Then sign the driver.

#1068 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by XPLives 22.07.2019 11:34

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!canonkong

Zitat von canonkong im Beitrag #1067
@diderius6
Modify like win7 usb drivers for new platforms. You need to find some USB driver support XP and use XHCI 1.0 and modify them inf/sys files. Then sign the driver.


What is your interest in XP and Windows 7?

Can you make Intel USB 3.0 driver for Vista work?

I'm not sure what your process is.

You took Intel Windows 7 USB 3.0 driver and did what to it to make it work in XP?

How do you sign the driver for XP?

Can you modify Intel XP Graphics Driver for Intel HD Graphics 4000 to work on newer SkyLake HD Graphics 530 and Coffee Lake 630?

Would be nice to use newer Intel HD Graphics 4000 driver even if not using the full power of the iGPU while under XP instead of generic Windows driver.

Also any way to modify the graphics driver to use shared memory above 4GB memory region instead of taking away from XP OS region and increase shared memory usage range higher like 2GB to 4GB RAM?

#1069 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by canonkong 22.07.2019 11:56

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@XPLives
I am still using win7 for my B360 Z390 X370 and prepared to buy X570 and 3950X, they all will install win7 because I donít like Bug10.
I modified few usb drivers for B360/H370/Q370/Z390 and X570, they both can work on win7/win8/8.1,but I donít have try vista. Maybe it also can work.
I aslo modified UHD630 drivers for win7/win8/8.1, but I donít think it can support Xp.
For sign, I have signtool to do that.
XP 32bit can also support above 4G RAM like server 2003.

#1070 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 22.07.2019 11:57

@canonkong

I have a lot of USB 3.0 and USB 3.1 drivers,
which work under XP.
To modify *.inf is clear for me,
but all fail for newer Intel chipset USB ports (bluescreen or drivers does not start).
How to modify *.sys files as you told?
Is there the _DEV number something like hard-coded in the *.sys files for XP
Dietmar

#1071 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by XPLives 22.07.2019 11:58

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@diderius6

Zitat von diderius6 im Beitrag #1054
I succeed to flash the Bios back on the Asus Prime x570-Pro board,
something, from what the man from Asus told "it is impossible".
The Bios chip is now "hardwired",
I use the SPI-TPM link for this:
Adapter with 2 rows a 7 pin, 2 mm distance
SQT-107-01-L-D
via mouser.com
Dietmar

PS: By the way I notice, that all about Mac, UUID, serial etc. is also nonsense.
I have now 2 compis which where to 100% identic.
Take a look at the Bios version:))!!!

EDIT: On Cinebench, the Ryzen 3700x is 23% faster as the Ryzen 1700. Hm, for what is the Hype?











Only 23% faster is not bad for one generation for AMD. But I think the real hype is the lower wattage consumption going to 7nm.

I still think Intel has better BIOS options than AMD on the same MB manufacturer. I don't know why that is.
Can you lower CPU Ratio to below 8 on your X570 MB?
Can you decrease CPU speed below 800 MHz?
How low can the CPU Core Voltage be set?

#1072 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by canonkong 22.07.2019 12:06

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@diderius6
Use IDA7.0, it can show the sys files running. Find out the DEV_ID confirm parts, replace ID or use jmp and nop to block them.
You can download this modified driver, it not only can support Intel USB devices, you can modify the ID like CC_0C30 or CC_0C330, that it can work almost all usb controllers devices.


[Solution] Win7 drivers for USB 3.0/3.1 Controllers of new Intel chipset systems

#1073 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by XPLives 22.07.2019 12:16

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@canonkong

Zitat von canonkong im Beitrag #1069
@XPLives
I am still using win7 for my B360 Z390 X370 and prepared to buy X570 and 3950X, they all will install win7 because I donít like Bug10.
I modified few usb drivers for B360/H370/Q370/Z390 and X570, they both can work on win7/win8/8.1,but I donít have try vista. Maybe it also can work.
I aslo modified UHD630 drivers for win7/win8/8.1, but I donít think it can support Xp.
For sign, I have signtool to do that.
XP 32bit can also support above 4G RAM like server 2003.


Yes that is why I wonder if you can use the Intel HD Graphics 4000 driver for XP to work on HD 530 and 630 Intel Graphics with some modding?

Not the other way modding Windows 7 driver to work in XP.

Vista if you can make work for Intel USB 3.0 will work for Windows 7 and maybe 8 automatically. Forward compatible so no worries.

Which signtool for XP do you use?

XP 32-Bit can use over 4GB but mainly for a large Ramdisk but 2003 does it better directly.

"Use IDA7.0, it can show the sys files running. Find out the DEV_ID confirm parts, replace ID or use jmp and nop to block them."

Which USB 3.0 driver are you modifying to work in XP?

Can you use a hex editor to modify the parts also?

Are you getting full USB 3.0 speeds in XP or USB 2.0 speeds?

Did you test with all USB devices working? - USB Keyboard, USB Mouse, USB Audio, USB hard drive, USB webcam?

#1074 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by canonkong 22.07.2019 12:37

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@XPLives
Signtool can use Asia Trust signtool.
You need find a driver can support XP original then when you modified the sys file,it will success more easily. Almost all usb drivers can modify support other devices if the driver use XHCI1.0 original.
Use IDA will better than HxD.
The speed base one the controller, if it can support usb3.0, it will run 3.0 mode.
Almost all usb devices can work, but USB to nvme disk maybe can not work if you donít link a usb hub.

#1075 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 22.07.2019 12:50

@canonkong
How can I find "DEV_ID confirm parts" with IDA pro
in *.sys file? Have I to mod both, xhci and hub driver? Do I need the *.pdb for this?
Is there a difference between AMD and Intel USB drivers?
Is there a difference between USB3.0 and USB 3.1?
Which XP 32 bit USB 3.0, USB 3.1 drivers you woul recommend for hack?
Have you done this for XP with success?
Is PCI\CC_0C03 best as generic _DEV
Dietmar

PS: Sorry for this a lot of questions. But I want to make USB work on newer Intel, AMD chipsets for XP.

#1076 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by XPLives 22.07.2019 12:59

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@canonkong

Zitat von canonkong im Beitrag #1074
@XPLives
Signtool can use Asia Trust signtool.
You need find a driver can support XP original then when you modified the sys file,it will success more easily. Almost all usb drivers can modify support other devices if the driver use XHCI1.0 original.
Use IDA will better than HxD.
The speed base one the controller, if it can support usb3.0, it will run 3.0 mode.
Almost all usb devices can work, but USB to nvme disk maybe can not work if you donít link a usb hub.



The link you had earlier was for the Windows 7 USB 3.0 driver? Or does that one also work on XP?

If not where is the one for XP you modified?

Which XP USB driver company did you base the mod test on before you modified it? It was not Intel since they didn't have any XP or Vista one released even today.

How do you know which USB drivers support XHCI1.0 original? Are you referring to USB 3.0 drivers for XP and not USB 3.1?

#1077 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by canonkong 22.07.2019 13:01

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@diderius6
Just modify xhci.sys and *.inf is enough. *pdb is not need.
I didnít found any difference between 3.0 and 3.1.They both can work.
NEC VIA intel amd both are ok.
I will share an USB driver tonight when I after work, you can test it and report it.

#1078 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 22.07.2019 13:19

@canonkong

The VIA USB 3.0 driver is very stable and fast in XP. So this would be a good choice.

I just take a look at the Asmedia ASMUSBHost_v1.16.55.1 driver for USB 3.1 for XP,
which works. You are right, for example in xhci.sys with unicode 0, <PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_2142&*>,0
is hardcoded there, so it can work
Dietmar

EDIT: I just make a test, changing in Asmedia ASMUSBHost_v1.16.55.1 driver for USB 3.1 for XP

asmtxhci.sys

PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_2142&* => PCI\CC_0C03


5000430049005C00560045004E005F00310042003200310026004400450056005F00320031003400320026002A000000

=>

5000430049005C00430043005F0030004300300033000000909090909090909090909090909090909090909090909090

#1079 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 22.07.2019 13:29

At once I come to the idea,
to test this nice method from @canonkong also
for other devices,
namly Intel(R) Ethernet Connection I219
Dietmar

#1080 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by infuscomus 22.07.2019 16:35

@diderius6

I wonder if HWIDs are hardcoded into nvidia drivers?

It would be awesome to have RTX 2080Ti working on XP
sure ray tracing won't work but still having a faster GPU would be nice

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