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#1051 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 16.07.2019 15:08

@Lost_N_BIOS

Do you know a tool,
that can read out the full 32 Mbyte of Bios chip on AMD AM4 board Asus Prime x570-Pro?
Universal BIOS Backup ToolKit reads only 16 Mbyte out,
but Winbond chip 25Q256JWEQ is 32 Mbyte,
Dietmar

PS: Ok, this means soldering.

#1052 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 16.07.2019 18:04

With original readout of the 407 Bios (nightmare, is really 32 Mbyte and not all FF after first 16 MB, so the tool
Universal BIOS Backup ToolKit 2.0 cant be used for this Bios chip with 32 Mbyte!)
I succeed to start with Ryzen 1700 and with Ryzen 3700x
on the AMD AM4 board Asus Prime x570-Pro XP SP3 full Acpi, all works, USB only via Pcie card.
The website from Asus tells only nonsense about Bios versions, compatible Ram and compatible processors for this board Asus Prime x570-Pro. And the most evil is, that the Bios version 407 cant be found there.
Ryzen 1700 works at once with all different ram sticks,
but for the Ryzen 3700x I had to change ram as much as possible,
before one time I see the yellow LED blinking.
After next 4 tries with changing ram, slots..
the board starts with Ryzen 3700x. Any other Bios version than 407 does not work on this board until now.

NEVER update your BIOS on this board or you will be lost!!!

EDIT: After 30 min prime95 with Ryzen 3700x it crashes. The Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming k4 runs stable for about 2 hours with the Ryzen 3700x and the torture includes prime95, Cinebench, 3Dmark2001 and Video from Youtube all the time.
So, this 80 Euro board is better than this new one for 280 Euro, brrr..

EDIT2: With Ryzen 1700 @3641 MHZ and the same torture test, the Asus Prime x570-Pro (Bios 407) crashes after 53min.
Tmax is 74 degree Celsius. Repeating the same for Ryzen 1700 no overclock at all, now it crashes after 35 min.
Asus Prime x570-Pro is build quick and dirty.

Dietmar

#1053 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 17.07.2019 14:09

I run a new stresstest on the Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming k4
with the Ryzen 3700x cpu.
prime95, Cinebench, 3dmark2001, video from Youtube all the time.
It is stable, nice board.
Even the temperature managment is better on the Asrock board than on the asus prime x570-pro:
78 degree Tmax Asrock against 81 degree Celsius Tmax Asus in long run
Dietmar

PS: Asus send me a mail, that I can rma the board.
And that they dont have the Bios 407 (from their own board(!)) .
Oh, a lie in combination with worst service ever.

EDIT: Correction, Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming k4 board crashes on this torture also after about 1 hour.
First network connection is gone (this is reproducible in about 1 hour torture) (Youtube) and then BSOD, brrr..
EDIT2: Now 90 min torture on the Asrock board without any crash.

#1054 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 18.07.2019 02:51

I succeed to flash the Bios back on the Asus Prime x570-Pro board,
something, from what the man from Asus told "it is impossible".
The Bios chip is now "hardwired",
I use the SPI-TPM link for this:
Adapter with 2 rows a 7 pin, 2 mm distance
SQT-107-01-L-D
via mouser.com
Dietmar

PS: By the way I notice, that all about Mac, UUID, serial etc. is also nonsense.
I have now 2 compis which where to 100% identic.
Take a look at the Bios version:))!!!

EDIT: On Cinebench, the Ryzen 3700x is 23% faster as the Ryzen 1700. Hm, for what is the Hype?





#1055 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 19.07.2019 23:39

The REVELPROG IS is by far the best Epromer, that I know.
It is manufactured in Poland and quite expensive (150 Euro).
Very good quality and good Software support.
And it is fast. It runs on XP SP3, Vista, Win7, Win8, Win8.1, Win10 (all 32 or 64 bit).

Now I can read and flash any Bios chip,
without any soldering or to put the Bios chip out of the mainboard.
No clip is needed. I just use the SPI TPM connector with this nice Epromer, professional as in factory,
Dietmar

PS: It includes a Hexeditor, so you can manipulate single Bits in Bios file and flash this new Bios.
Also it has a checksum tool.
And a DiffChecker tool, that allows you to compare 2 bin or hex files at one screen (waoh).

EDIT: SPI TPM (female) Adapter is 2 rows 7 pin, 2 mm distance
SQT-107-01-L-D
via mouser.com

#1056 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by nofearek9 21.07.2019 17:30

hello,whats the solution for winxp to see hard drivers bigger than 2TB ?

#1057 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 21.07.2019 20:29

@nofearek9
You can buy the driver Paragon GPT Loader for XP, I have,
with which you can read GPT drives under XP as large as you want
Dietmar

EDIT: And even with MBR XP can work via USB with really big drives, just formatted
with NTFS and 4k sectors.
https://www.seagate.com/de/de/internal-h...s/hdd/ironwolf/
16TB 5 years garantie, 250 MByte/s, sectors 512e , means Emulation via 4k should be recogniced from XP from start.

By the way, I prefer WD, no error on HD in 10 years.

Align to 4096 sectors and all HD with 512e > 2TB can be used in XP 32 bit also as boot device with MBR,
very fast, no difference to <= 2TB.
https://geizhals.de/western-digital-wd-b...=de&hloc=de&v=k
250Mbyte/s read, write in XP, nice.

#1058 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by nofearek9 21.07.2019 21:11

i dont want to format the drives cause they already have data on them,its about 3TB usb drives,paragon dont offer anymore the driver is discontinued.

#1059 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by infuscomus 21.07.2019 21:29

@nofearek9

I have GPT loader if you want it

#1060 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by nofearek9 21.07.2019 21:30

yes please ,if you can upload it will be nice,thanks.

#1061 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by infuscomus 21.07.2019 21:37

@nofearek9

I sent you a PM

#1062 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by XPLives 22.07.2019 03:56

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@nofearek9, @diderius6, @infuscomus

Zitat von nofearek9 im Beitrag #1056
hello,whats the solution for winxp to see hard drivers bigger than 2TB ?


Since this discussion relates more to my other thread I felt it better to respond there in its entirety where it makes more sense.

The XP Yeager Project: 16TB -- Breaking the 2.2TB Capacity Barrier

#1063 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by canonkong 22.07.2019 05:52

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I had made some generic USB drives for XP 32/64bit, and it test on my B360, X370 and R7-3700X has a usb controller named 149C, the same with X570. They are all working!

#1064 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by infuscomus 22.07.2019 07:04

@canonkong

Nice!
I have a B350, 2700X, 2 extra AMD USB 3 controllers 15E0 and 15E1 that currently are not working on XP

#1065 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by nofearek9 22.07.2019 07:59

thank you all for your replys.

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