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#1036 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 15.07.2019 02:17

Ok, what I found with Winhex for the Asus Prime x570-Pro board in its readout of Bios 407 (and also 7010) is

SN 190551498900517 (Dezimal) at 2 places
MAC 04D9F51E29E0 (Hex) at 2 places
UUID D008090B92A5E8F9C07D04D9F51E29E0 (Hex) at 2 places


From Asus Website I download oldest Bios, what I can get
0602 version.
This Bios I open with UEFI-Tool and for to delete cap I store only UEFI image (under AMI Aptio capsule).

I use FD44Editor.exe to copy this values direct into the downloaded Bios (free from cap) from Asus website (to change the 2 times 50 (FF..) against the above values at its 2 places )
and flash via Epromer direct to Bios chip,
Dietmar

#1037 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 15.07.2019 14:56

I flashed this bios 602 with Mac, UUID, SN back to Asus Prime x570-Pro board.
I doublecheck, that the written Bios is exact the same as the Bios file.
But still the yellow LED is on,
so something really bad is going on
Dietmar

#1038 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by infuscomus 15.07.2019 16:13

@diderius6

faulty RAM maybe?

#1039 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 15.07.2019 16:52

@infuscomus

No, I tested different Ram sticks, different brands. All they work on other boards.
Double, single mode, each slot.
It is Bios related, because the same ram works before also on this board,
see photos in post 1013 here. And it is not only one Bios
for this motherboard, that fails. The 602 version fails also,
next to 7010.
The only Bios, that worked, was version 407 for Ryzen 1700.
Tomorrow I will test this Bios 407 and also Bios 804 on second new board Asus Prime x570-Pro with Ryzen 3700x.
Dietmar

PS: Asus sent me mail, that they accepted my case
but nothing more.

#1040 AMD AM4 -- F7 NO ACPI test by XPLives 15.07.2019 23:49

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@diderius6

Zitat von diderius6 im Beitrag #1033
@XPLives
I have not tried to install "Standard PC" on Ryzen 3700x,
because then you dont get Acpi after.




Yes that is the point of the test to see if it installs fully and boots to the desktop in F7 NO ACPI method. If it works then you can still use XP minus hyperthreading and shutdown/standby on AMD AM4.

This determines compatibility. In all the tests I've seen with Coffee Lake and SkyLake both have no issues installing XP to completion using this method.

I want to see what happens on your X370 and your X570 MBs using "F7 NO ACPI method" if XP can install successfully and boots to desktop in normal mode.

If not I want to know where it freezes and if Safe Mode works to get to the desktop during this failure.

#1041 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by XPLives 15.07.2019 23:51

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@infuscomus

Zitat von infuscomus im Beitrag #1034
@XPLives

Can you take a screenshot of the A5 BSOD you are getting on X370 in XP?


It's your typical BSOD A5 screen message.

Here are the Error Codes using your image:
How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7)

#1042 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 16.07.2019 00:08

I just ordered the cheapest RAM stick (20 Euro),
which is in the compatiblity list from Asus for memory for the Asus Prime x570-Pro board.

G.Skill NT Series DIMM 4GB, DDR4-2133, CL15-15-15-35 (F4-2133C15S-4GNT)

Dietmar

PS: If this one also will fail, it is to 100% the fault of Bios from Asus.

#1043 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 16.07.2019 00:13

@XPLives
At the moment I have no working x570 board.
But I think, without ACPI install of XP SP3 will be no problem
Dietmar

PS: When you install XP SP3 via CD, the screen with special BSOD is important for diagnosis.

#1044 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by XPLives 16.07.2019 00:19

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@diderius6

Zitat von diderius6 im Beitrag #1043
@XPLives
At the moment I have no working x570 board.
But I think, without ACPI install of XP SP3 will be no problem
Dietmar

PS: When you install XP SP3 via CD, the screen with special BSOD is important for diagnosis.

Test on your X370 MB with F7 NO ACPI method install. Let me know the results for your Ryzen 7 3700X and Ryzen 7 1700 CPUs if both install XP successfully with NO ACPI.

BSOD A5 ACPI Error Code Results are here:
How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7)

Unfortunately your ACPI.SYS did not work. It's possible your ACPI.SYS is only compatible with your MotherBoard or just Ryzen CPUs but not earliest AM4 Bristol Ridge and Raven Ridge CPUs.

At the moment I cannot say the ACPI.SYS is universal since it has failed on my X370 which should have worked.

I have yet to test it on the SkyLake and Coffee Lake MB to see if that fixes the ACPI issue.

I'm now testing F7 NO ACPI method using the same image. Should see the new results within the hour.

#1045 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 16.07.2019 00:33

@XPLives
Read post 891 here
Dietmar

PS: I test Athlon X4 950, A8-9600, Ryzen 1700, Ryzen 3700x, 8700k, 9900k for XP SP3.
All work with this acpi.sys. And Infuscomus test also 2400G with success.
Also I test some Celerons, Pentium for Skylake, Coffeelake, work with full ACPI.

#1046 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by XPLives 16.07.2019 00:53

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@diderius6

Zitat von diderius6 im Beitrag #1045
@XPLives
Read post 891 here
Dietmar

PS: I test Athlon X4 950, A8-9600, Ryzen 1700, Ryzen 3700x, 8700k, 9900k for XP SP3.
All work with this acpi.sys. And Infuscomus test also 2400G with success.


If your X370 works with Bristol Ridge then maybe motherboard differences exist between B350 and X370 chipsets.

Test F7 NO ACPI on your B350 XP install on your Bristol Ridge see if it can install XP completely to first desktop.

Still installing XP (driver.cab) 7% stuck for a long time almost half an hour. Might reboot the computer and hook optical drive to a different SATA port than AMD if this takes too long with no progress.

#1047 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 16.07.2019 00:57

@XPLives
Until now I do not have a x370 board for testing.
From AMD I tested B320, B350, x570 which all works with full acpi and XP SP3
Dietmar

PS: I installed XP SP3 on 2 different Bristol Ridge CPUs without and also with acpi,
see above.

#1048 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by XPLives 16.07.2019 02:27

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@diderius6

Zitat von diderius6 im Beitrag #1047
@XPLives
Until now I do not have a x370 board for testing.
From AMD I tested B320, B350, x570 which all works with full acpi and XP SP3
Dietmar

PS: I installed XP SP3 on 2 different Bristol Ridge CPUs without and also with acpi,
see above.


Ahh... I had to reset then moved both optical drive and SATA SSD to Asmedia 106X ports.

I think AMD SATA ports dislike XP installation for some reason. Even SSD on AMD and optical drive on Asmedia had issues.

Seems to copy now faster on both Asmedia but hanged on different parts after files copied.

Now I reset the BIOS and do a clean test again now to be certain no conflict.

Were your ACPI and NO ACPI tests all done on SATA SSD on Asmedia SATA ports?

#1049 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by diderius6 16.07.2019 02:37

@XPLives
Most I use normal harddisk (I use about 20 harddrives each 2 Terabyte black WD, very fast>200 Mbyte/sec)
because I can easy format, align and copy file by file from and to them via USB adapter
Dietmar

PS: Before we have STORAHCI driver, which works for any AMD and any Intel SATA, I always use asm106x. Only for Intel board,
there has been a generic SATA driver for years now on the market.
The CD drive only hangs, when the CD disk is not absolut clean.

#1050 RE: Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts by infuscomus 16.07.2019 06:20

@XPLives

So my install media that I used for my AB350 GamingK4 board froze for you on X370?

What motherboard do you have?
Which BIOS version?


BSOD A5 ACPI Errors:
0x00000011
0x00000008
0xF79A1478
0x20120913


I think this means ACPI failed to load DDB.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows...acpi-bios-error

I would get this error when I tried to patch the DSDT table, never worked and ended up using the patched driver that supports more arguments (CreateQWordField for example)

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