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#31 RE: Microcode Update of Insyde UEFI BIOSes by FPSUsername 31.08.2018 11:57

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Hmm, I can't really remove the cmos, I'd have to take apart my laptop and it isn't really possible since it's partially broken. The more I disassemble it, the more pieces break.



Edit:
Something weird happened, I let my laptop on for a few minutes and this happened (Oh and you can see some duct tape)
The whole laptop freezes after a couple of minutes. This doesn't seem to be happening inside the BIOS, only in windows since the last BIOS/ME update


So far the freeze happened three times and once I got a unexpected kernel mode trap BSOD

I rolled back to the bios from post 14

#32 RE: Microcode Update of Insyde UEFI BIOSes by Lost_N_BIOS 31.08.2018 19:05

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OK, well then press and hold power on button for 1 minute, with main batter and power cable removed.

Try windows update DPJ.bat again, but before that open platform.ini file and in 4-5 section down edit this entry PatchFv=1 (Change to PatchFv=0) then save and run the batch file.

Actually, stop on above, no need now you got it! Great, thanks for the dumps, looks like you now have flashed FD all unlocked, you can write to ME with FPT now, and should be able to with FWUpdLcl.exe as well.

So, since you went back to mod3 BIOS without that interim ME version I edited in for you, now you can try FWUpdLcl.exe -me.bin using the files I sent you in the Mod3 ME/FWUpdate folder. That will update you to latest ME 6.2.50.1062

#33 RE: Microcode Update of Insyde UEFI BIOSes by FPSUsername 31.08.2018 19:55

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Hmm, when I was on your mod3 build with 6.2.40, I couldn't run FWUpdLcl, I had the same error with the locked ME FW update.
I am not sure what is causing the freezes, it only occurred when there wasn't any motion on the desktop (such as a video playing or having the clock/calendar opened at the bottom right corner).

I won't be able to test this weekend as I won't be at home. I do have a last request. I have a HDD caddy but can't boot from it. The bios does see it as IDE1 and the main as IDE0 (not sure if it's called IDE), but no matter what I press in the F12 boot menu, it still boots into the main drive.
I don't know how familiar you're with that kind of bios modding, but I'd appreciate if that would work.

#34 RE: Microcode Update of Insyde UEFI BIOSes by Lost_N_BIOS 31.08.2018 20:00

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It should work now with FD unlocked I think, maybe you did that before FD was unlocked? Well, no matter what you can flash ME via FPT now since FD is unlocked, but unfortunately there is no ME RGN file for that version, only the UPD File which has to be used with the ME FW update tool.
The error may be that specific ME version, which is all I updated in that file, so it's the only likely culprit.

On your HDD questions, usually you can't boot from USB HDD caddy like that, if it's what I'm thinking. When you press F12 and get boot menu, can you see it's drives? If not, what about if you choose USB HDD and then inside next menu do you see it?

#35 RE: Microcode Update of Insyde UEFI BIOSes by FPSUsername 31.08.2018 20:14

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Okay. Well, the hdd caddy replaces the CD/DVD drive. Yes it is visible, but it doens't show a drive name, it's listed like:
IDE0: OCZ Vertex....
IDE1:
USB0: V88

#36 RE: Microcode Update of Insyde UEFI BIOSes by Lost_N_BIOS 31.08.2018 20:23

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What is USB0: V88

Why do any of those show IDE? Are you in IDE Mode? If yes, switch to AHCI, if you are in IDE Mode, make these changes in windows first before you change to AHCI

Zitat
Enable switching between all IDE/AHCI/RAID modes by changing "Start" Values in these keys to 0

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Msahci\Start
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Pciide\Start
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStorV\Start

#37 RE: Microcode Update of Insyde UEFI BIOSes by FPSUsername 01.09.2018 13:40

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I am in ACHI mode ofcourse, but the drives show up as IDE in the boot menu.
IDE1 is the hdd caddy. It doesn't matter if I switch the two drives, it won't recognize the drive (only on OS level). Pretty weird considering that you can boot from the CD/DVD drive, but not the HDD caddy, which is physically connected to the same pins.

Oh and what V88 is? That's my usb where I have DOS on so I can flash the bioses.

The regedit values are zero.

#38 RE: Microcode Update of Insyde UEFI BIOSes by Lost_N_BIOS 01.09.2018 20:43

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Sometimes that is due to the controller inside the caddy, some have a controller rather than simple pass-through making booting from impossible.

#39 RE: Microcode Update of Insyde UEFI BIOSes by pedro77 18.12.2018 01:16

5741(g)
Although im not willing to update the firmware, could you guys recommend the best bios flash for providing
uefi support bug free
virtualisation option
intel speedstep.
unlocked no restriction on installing other wifi cards etc im using the Intel 7260ac but its slow on boot.
intel turbo boost would be a bonus.
thanks.
I7-640m, 8gb, ssd crucial drive.

#40 RE: Microcode Update of Insyde UEFI BIOSes by Lost_N_BIOS 18.12.2018 08:39

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@pedro77 - why ask if you would not update anyway, and then modifications on top of that?? I do not understand your message possibly?

#41 RE: Microcode Update of Insyde UEFI BIOSes by pedro77 18.12.2018 13:17

I would like to update the bios but not update the firmware. Are you stating that its not possible to update the bios with any of the mods without having to update the firmware too?? I dont wish to run the risk of having an unrecoverable brick as i understand it updating the firmware runs the risk of a brick while others have mentioned freezes when going to .40 and not being to upgrade to .50.

#42 RE: Microcode Update of Insyde UEFI BIOSes by FPSUsername 18.12.2018 20:25

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Zitat von pedro77 im Beitrag #41
I would like to update the bios but not update the firmware. Are you stating that its not possible to update the bios with any of the mods without having to update the firmware too?? I dont wish to run the risk of having an unrecoverable brick as i understand it updating the firmware runs the risk of a brick while others have mentioned freezes when going to .40 and not being to upgrade to .50.


That's an incorrect understatement.
You can upgrade the fw, but as I tried it earlier, I couldn't update from .40 to .50 since a bios lock, so the original shipped MEI firmware is the only stable one available. The .50 has no version available to be baked into the bios, only the .40, so bad luck here.
You can always use the emergency flash (iirc, fn + b without battery) and it will flash the bios from the usb stick.

#43 RE: Microcode Update of Insyde UEFI BIOSes by Lost_N_BIOS 19.12.2018 08:43

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BIOS/FW same to me, what specifically do you mean that you don't want to update @pedro77 Intel ME, or some other FW?

If BIOS 1 has ME FW you like, using that ME FW now, but you want to update to BIOS 2, BUT BIOS 2 has ME FW you don't want, that's easy fix!
Take ME FW from BIOS 1, put into BIOS 2, now no possible way for FW to be updated with BIOS Update to BIOS 2 - problem solved
Same method applies for any other "Firmware" within the BIOS.

If that is not something you can do, please be a lot more specific for me on what you want/don't want and which BIOS has what, and link both BIOS then I can make the changes for you.

Intel ME FW Can be updated to whatever version you want, but not easily downgraded without a special dance performed It's possible to downgrade, but very difficult sometimes on laptop if you don't have flash programmer.
That applies to a ME FW already flashed into the board I mean, upgrade/downgrade etc is simple on BIOS file only, but downgrade still same dance required if higher already flashed into motherboard.

@FPSUsername - do you need to upgrade your ME FW? If you need this ".50" ME FW, link me to BIOS that contains it and I can get for you.
BIOS Lock, that would only apply to FPT usage, if your ME is functional and you want to update you can use ME FW Update tool.

#44 RE: Microcode Update of Insyde UEFI BIOSes by pedro77 19.12.2018 15:24

I don't have a flash programmer so I dont wish to upgrade Intel ME FW at all just in case there is an issue with it and have to downgrade. I understand FPSUsername started receiving freezes after upgrading to .40 and is unable to downgrade or upgrade to .50. Theres no guarantee that upgrading to .50 would solve his freezing issue anyhow. I currently have stock bios v1.23 so I assume that this has Intel ME firmware version .32, Im not sure as i dont know how to check this. So please put the stock intel ME firmware in the final bios file.

With the bios itself, Im not sure what any of them do as no one has ever indicated what they contain apart from uefi support so I cant tell you which one, youll have to select the most suitable one based on the following requirements:
UEFI support
Intel virtulisation (VT)
Hyperthreading
Intel turbo boost.
Intel Speed step.

Also with stock bios the intel 7260AC wifi card that I have takes a long time to load. This seems to be bios related but im unsure, i couldnt find anything significant in the event viewer, everything seems to boot, but just slowly.

Obviosuly I dont want a bios with bugs, weird boot animations or freezes.

Here is one for the acer 5750 and he shows all the menus too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mNsPxnGaH0

Acer 5741
I7-640M
8GB RAM.
Crucial SSD Drive.
Intel 7260AC (Slows down laptop on boot)

Thank you for your help.

#45 RE: Microcode Update of Insyde UEFI BIOSes by FPSUsername 19.12.2018 15:33

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@pedro77 You misunderstood me. I was able to downgrade ME by flashing the previous bios from post #14

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