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#331 RE: Accessing Locked BIOS Menu Settings by Miyconst 21.11.2019 23:41

@Lost_N_BIOS,

Here is the full recording of how I bricked the motherboard using FPT: http://www.miyconst.com/UploadedFiles/x9...os-to-brick.mp4
And here is another motherboard photo with nothing but CPU installed: http://www.miyconst.com/UploadedFiles/x9...photo-clean.jpg

Please let me know if you need any specific area of the motherboard more detailed.

#332 RE: [Request] How to Access Locked/Hidden BIOS Menu Settings by Lost_N_BIOS 22.11.2019 06:39

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I don't need to see video of how you bricked it, I told you how and what happened at post #328
I still can't tell 100% what that chip is under debug LED, but I think it's BIOS as we already discussed

#333 RE: [Request] How to Access Locked/Hidden BIOS Menu Settings by nichigo13 22.11.2019 17:12

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Hi Sir @Lost_N_BIOS , I'd like to ask if i do need to erase the chip before flashing the me firmware? or its not necessary since they're on different region? I've been looking for guides on flashing me firmware but i cant find any. want to know this before proceeding with the flash.

#334 RE: [Request] How to Access Locked/Hidden BIOS Menu Settings by nichigo13 24.11.2019 08:41

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sadly, I didn't managed to get my usb programmer work properly. I've believed i'm connecting it to the right pins. (red wire should be on the pin 1 , and the pin 1 in the bios chip is the one with dot)
but still, usb programmer led indicator turns off when i connect the soic clip to the bios chip. no idea why

#335 RE: [Request] How to Access Locked/Hidden BIOS Menu Settings by Miyconst 02.12.2019 16:23

@Lost_N_BIOS hi again! I have finally got my BIOS programmer and revived the motherboard. Do you have any progress with unlocking the BIOS settings?

I have tried to set XE Ratio Limit settings via AMIBCP tool and flash updated BIOS - it works, but the CPU multiplier does not change.
There is an extra setting "Overclocking Lock" with Enabled/Disabled options, I tried both.

Also, when flushing BIOS with FPT tool, it shows a red line "Could not communicate with the HECI", but still proceeds and does writings.

#336 RE: [Request] How to Access Locked/Hidden BIOS Menu Settings by akm 13.07.2020 23:15

@Lost_N_BIOS Hi, continuing from our discussion on PM, let me summarize some of the points of discussion until now:

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I lately got a new Dell Inspiron 15 laptop (P75002) that has Insyde H2O BIOS. My objective is to completely unlock the Dell BIOS and get access to all settings, especially HPET and CPU Power Saving settings.

I downloaded the latest BIOS from the Dell website and have shared it here.

I also have a dump of the BIOS that I got using Universal BIOS Backup Toolkit a few months back, if I recall correctly. You can download it from here.

I have the flash programmer (not tested yet) but not the SOIC8 clip. I have placed order for the clip and awaiting its delivery.

I tried the BIOS dump method using the flashrom utlity as you suggested. The process failed. I have shared a screenshot, and also the screenshots of the different menus in BIOS settings here.

I primarily need to switch HPET Off permanently, disable all CPU power saving settings, disable clock spread spectrum, disable hard drive power savings, disable PCI & PCI clocks power savings and disable memory scrambler. You asked me the exact settings that I want modified.disabled, but in order to tell that I need a list of all the settings that are hidden in the Insyde BIOS. If it is possible for you to extract a listing of the names of all settings that are there hidden/locked in the Insyde BIOS, I can precisely tell you which ones I want disabled or changed.

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You sent me a package to be run to extract vars.txt files. I have shared the extracted vars files as per your described instructions here.

Thanks!

#337 RE: [Request] How to Access Locked/Hidden BIOS Menu Settings by Lost_N_BIOS 14.07.2020 06:57

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@Miyconst - So sorry! I lost your post until now!! Do you still need help? Great to hear you were able to revive your board

@akm - Thanks for moving this to thread, and summarizing it all again above, that really helps!
Here is IFR text output of all possible settings, hidden or visible, we can change any of these directly without a BIOS mod using vars or RU method - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...632935810157318

#338 RE: [Request] How to Access Locked/Hidden BIOS Menu Settings by Miyconst 14.07.2020 09:06

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #337
@Miyconst - So sorry! I lost your post until now!! Do you still need help? Great to hear you were able to revive your board

@akm - Thanks for moving this to thread, and summarizing it all again above, that really helps!
Here is IFR text output of all possible settings, hidden or visible, we can change any of these directly without a BIOS mod using vars or RU method - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...632935810157318


Hi @Lost_N_BIOS ! I no longer need any help with the original BIOS, but today I have got mine Huananzhi X99-F8D motherboard, it's a dual socket LGA 2011-3 motherboard. It also has locked memory timings option. Do you think you could help with unlocking it?

#339 RE: [Request] How to Access Locked/Hidden BIOS Menu Settings by Lost_N_BIOS 14.07.2020 09:16

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@Miyconst - OK, sorry again that I missed your reply before!

On the Huananzhi X99-F8D - Not sure, send me link to download the stock BIOS package, then also do below

If you have already modified the BIOS in ANY way, you will need to re-flash it back to factory defaults using factory method (NOT FPT)!!!
Additionally, please remove all BIOS passwords, disable secure boot, and disable TPM or Encryption if you have enabled. Do this before moving on to below


If you do not have Intel ME drivers installed, install them now from your system driver download page, then start over here after reboot.
Check your BIOS' main page and see if ME FW version is shown. If not then > DOWNLOAD HWINFO64 HERE <

Once HWINFO is open, look at the large window on the left side, expand motherboard, and find the ME area.
Inside that section is the ME Firmware version. Take note of the version. (ie. write it down or get a screenshot)

Once you have that, go to the thread linked below, and in the section "C.2" find and download the matching ME System Tools Package for your system.
(ie if ME FW version = 10.x get V10 package, if 9.0-9.1 get V9.1 package, if 9.5 or above get V9.5 package etc)
> DOWNLOAD " ME System Tools " packages HERE <

Once downloaded, inside you will find Flash Programming Tool folder, and then inside that a Windows or Win/Win32 folder (NOT x64).
Highlight that Win/Win32 folder, then hold shift and press right click. Choose "open command window here" (Not power shell! >> * See Registry file below *).

If you get an error, reply to this post with a screenshot of it, OR write down the EXACT command entered and the EXACT error given.

((If "open command window here" does not appear, look for the "Simple Registry Edit" below...))

Step #1

Now you should be at the command prompt.
You are going to BACKUP the factory un-modified firmware, so type the following command:
Command: " FPTw.exe -bios -d biosreg.bin "

>> Attach the saved "biosreg.bin ", placed into a compressed ZIP/RAR file, to your next post!!! <<

Step #2

Right after you do that, try to write back the BIOS Region dump and see if you get any error(s).
Command: " FPTw.exe -bios -f biosreg.bin "
^^ This step is important! Don't forget! ^^

If you get an error, reply to this post with a screenshot of it, OR write down the EXACT command entered and the EXACT error given.

Here is a SIMPLE REGISTRY EDIT that adds "Open command window here as Administrator" to the right click menu, instead of Power Shell
Double-click downloaded file to install. Reboot after install may be required
> CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD CMD PROMPT REGISTRY ENTRY <

If the windows method above does NOT work for you...
Then you may have to copy all contents from the Flash Programming Tool \ DOS folder to the root of a Bootable USB disk and do the dump from DOS
( DOS command: " FPT.exe -bios -d biosreg.bin " )

#340 RE: [Request] How to Access Locked/Hidden BIOS Menu Settings by Miyconst 14.07.2020 09:58

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #339
@Miyconst - OK, sorry again that I missed your reply before!

On the Huananzhi X99-F8D - Not sure, send me link to download the stock BIOS package, then also do below
If you have already modified the BIOS in ANY way, you will need to re-flash it back to factory defaults using factory method (NOT FPT)!!!
Additionally, please remove all BIOS passwords, disable secure boot, and disable TPM or Encryption if you have enabled. Do this before moving on to below


If you do not have Intel ME drivers installed, install them now from your system driver download page, then start over here after reboot.
Check your BIOS' main page and see if ME FW version is shown. If not then > DOWNLOAD HWINFO64 HERE <

Once HWINFO is open, look at the large window on the left side, expand motherboard, and find the ME area.
Inside that section is the ME Firmware version. Take note of the version. (ie. write it down or get a screenshot)

Once you have that, go to the thread linked below, and in the section "C.2" find and download the matching ME System Tools Package for your system.
(ie if ME FW version = 10.x get V10 package, if 9.0-9.1 get V9.1 package, if 9.5 or above get V9.5 package etc)
> DOWNLOAD " ME System Tools " packages HERE <

Once downloaded, inside you will find Flash Programming Tool folder, and then inside that a Windows or Win/Win32 folder (NOT x64).
Highlight that Win/Win32 folder, then hold shift and press right click. Choose "open command window here" (Not power shell! >> * See Registry file below *).

If you get an error, reply to this post with a screenshot of it, OR write down the EXACT command entered and the EXACT error given.

((If "open command window here" does not appear, look for the "Simple Registry Edit" below...))

Step #1

Now you should be at the command prompt.
You are going to BACKUP the factory un-modified firmware, so type the following command:
Command: " FPTw.exe -bios -d biosreg.bin "

>> Attach the saved "biosreg.bin ", placed into a compressed ZIP/RAR file, to your next post!!! <<

Step #2

Right after you do that, try to write back the BIOS Region dump and see if you get any error(s).
Command: " FPTw.exe -bios -f biosreg.bin "
^^ This step is important! Don't forget! ^^

If you get an error, reply to this post with a screenshot of it, OR write down the EXACT command entered and the EXACT error given.

Here is a SIMPLE REGISTRY EDIT that adds "Open command window here as Administrator" to the right click menu, instead of Power Shell
Double-click downloaded file to install. Reboot after install may be required
> CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD CMD PROMPT REGISTRY ENTRY <

If the windows method above does NOT work for you...
Then you may have to copy all contents from the Flash Programming Tool \ DOS folder to the root of a Bootable USB disk and do the dump from DOS
( DOS command: " FPT.exe -bios -d biosreg.bin " )



Unfortunately, the BIOS is locked on this motherboard, and I can't use FPT to read/write it. I can use AfuWin/AfuDos or CH341a programmer. What would be better?
AfuWin creates a BIOS backup which is just 8MB in size, while the BIOS chip is 16MB, thus I am not sure if this one will be useful.

#341 RE: [Request] How to Access Locked/Hidden BIOS Menu Settings by Lost_N_BIOS 14.07.2020 10:05

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@Miyconst - Show me the error you get with FPT, or just tell me the error # and send me dump of BIOS region from FPT, maybe we can disable what's blocking it from letting you write to BIOS region
8MB BIOS region dump may be normal, if ME FW region 5-7MB. Link me to the stock BIOS package/download too
But yes, if we can't disable the locks blocking you from FPT flashing, we can use programmer since you have it.

#342 RE: [Request] How to Access Locked/Hidden BIOS Menu Settings by Miyconst 14.07.2020 11:40

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #341
@Miyconst - Show me the error you get with FPT, or just tell me the error # and send me dump of BIOS region from FPT, maybe we can disable what's blocking it from letting you write to BIOS region
8MB BIOS region dump may be normal, if ME FW region 5-7MB. Link me to the stock BIOS package/download too
But yes, if we can't disable the locks blocking you from FPT flashing, we can use programmer since you have it.


Thank you for the quick answer! Here you can download an archive with everything I was able to get from the motherboard, before I try CH341a.
https://www.miyconst.com/UploadedFiles/h...x99f8d-bios.zip

There you will find an Afu information screenshot, BIOS dump from AfuWin 561, FPT dump with FPTw -bios -d, and a screenshot with the FPT error to an attempt to create a full BIOS dump.

Additional info:

- "FPTw -bios -f" works.
- FPT Error in text: Error 26: The host CPU does not have read access to the target flash area.

#343 RE: [Request] How to Access Locked/Hidden BIOS Menu Settings by akm 14.07.2020 20:15

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #337
@akm - Thanks for moving this to thread, and summarizing it all again above, that really helps!
Here is IFR text output of all possible settings, hidden or visible, we can change any of these directly without a BIOS mod using vars or RU method - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...632935810157318

Thanks to you too, for being here to help me again! :)

I have gone through all the settings that you provided through the three files that you shared. As I see it, there are still some settings which are missing in the three files, for example, some of the settings already available in the Advanced Menu (which you can see in the screenshots that I shared) are not available in the files that you shared. I believe there has to be a fourth file as well with the remaining settings.

Anyway, I have extracted the settings of my interest which I want disabled/modified and have put them all in a Word document, shared here. Unfortunately, HPET is not there in any of the settings files. Can you please find that as well and tell the process to disable it? Thanks!

#344 RE: [Request] How to Access Locked/Hidden BIOS Menu Settings by Lost_N_BIOS 15.07.2020 07:34

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@Miyconst - You're welcome! Let's stop wasting time here Please do as I mentioned in spoiler, what you did above is totally different, and it's expected you would not be able to use FPT that way in many cases.
Please >> FPTw.exe -bios -d biosreg.bin
Then immediately >> FPTw.exe -bios -f biosreg.bin << What error, if any, do you get there?

The dumps you provided, both, are BIOS region only, that is why 8MB. You can possibly dump FD/ME/GbE too (If GbE exists), but you need to try those by themselves.
The above one is all we need to mess with though, getting these below is just to have for info/backup etc
FPTw.exe -desc -d FD.bin
FPTw.exe -gbe -d GbE.bin << May not exist, if no Intel Brand Gigabit LAN
FPTw.exe -me -d ME.bin << This one possibly blocked from read

CH341A may not be required here, if you will follow along and let me try and help you do what you asked

@akm - You're welcome!!
Please give me some examples of what you mean, but yes, sometimes there can be added settings other than what is in the IFR's I sent you but it's very rare. The three I sent you contain all.
However, it's probably due to this that you can't see/find some settings by name >> Some Insyde BIOS, we cannot get full/proper IFR output from. Sorry, I didn't realize so much was not shown properly in the Setup IFR I sent you (New one here, but still some % obfuscated)
So that adds to the mess here for you wanting to pick certain settings, but I can still see them in a program to get info to change properly (HPET example below, it is enabled of course, but we can still change anytime via BIOS edit or vars edit etc )


Not sure of any easy way for me to tell you how to look through the possible settings, without sending you several programs and telling you how to use etc... WAIT!!
Here, this should properly cover all visible and hidden settings, that may have been missing in the IFR's, sorry I didn't give before but I didn't realize that setup IFR output was that way because I only looked at PBS/CBS and they were proper.
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...569065787180918

Please convert that word doc to text file, thanks

#345 RE: [Request] How to Access Locked/Hidden BIOS Menu Settings by Miyconst 15.07.2020 10:18

@Lost_N_BIOS sorry for not being clear. I did exactly what you asked:

>FPTw.exe -bios -d biosreg.bin
>FPTw.exe -bios -f biosreg.bin

It works, the green successful "The data is identical" message is shown, and the file is available in the archive, it was renamed to hz-x99f8d-fpt-bios.rom.

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