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#31 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by ItxLeo 20.08.2018 22:24

I can order them, I don't really need the motherboard, I would just like to go for over 5Ghz on my E5 1650 V2 C2 and that is really it.
I have the power supply connected to the motherboard and that cause the green light to be on. I hoked it up because in this way it the software will at least recognize the SPI.
The red lights turn on when I connect properly the clip to the SPI. Kinda strange, isn't it?

#32 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by ItxLeo 20.08.2018 22:25

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #30
You're getting there, or are there? That dump above is correct and partial BIOS, that may be all there is due to the corrupted BIOS (Source of the problem), or software versions still, lets be sure.

See if you can get a few more dumps like you did above, using the different versions of softare but make same chip ID choices. Then I will compare tonight and fix a BIOS for you. Luckily the one above contains NVRAM section which has your user data, hopefully all in tact
MAN, it's such a great thing you are saying. Gotta do more of them immediatly.

#33 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by Lost_N_BIOS 20.08.2018 22:27

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Yes, you got it finally! What you dumped might be all that's left on there, but we need to check to be sure before I send you new file to write tonight.
So, before you write anything to the chip, have you figured out the cause now of all the issues today, connection not good enough, or software/drivers or what?

#34 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by ItxLeo 20.08.2018 22:33

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #33
Yes, you got it finally! What you dumped might be all that's left on there, but we need to check to be sure before I send you new file to write tonight.
So, before you write anything to the chip, have you figured out the cause now of all the issues today, connection not good enough, or software/drivers or what?

Well, the thing is:
I currently have 2 SPI programmers, both black ones. One of the two does not make the RED-led of the mobo to power on, so I decided not to use it. The other one managed to do that little dump I sent you and always manage to read something different from FF.
The mobo NEED to have the CMOS battery and to be connected to the PSU, I think the CH341A can't provide enogh power for all the board.
I have two little PCB and the one with the numbers on it seems to work better, mainly because the other I don't know how should be placed.
I swapped out laptop in the meantime, just to make sure.
I reinstalle the drivers.
All of the versions of the software recognize the chip now, but some of them will give me error when selecting the name of the bios. They will read different kind of code, again not sure why.
I will do like 2-3 dump for the versions of the software I trust the most and then upload them. Give me 10 minutes and I will upload them.

#35 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by ItxLeo 20.08.2018 23:00

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #33
Yes, you got it finally! What you dumped might be all that's left on there, but we need to check to be sure before I send you new file to write tonight.
So, before you write anything to the chip, have you figured out the cause now of all the issues today, connection not good enough, or software/drivers or what?

There we are https://www.sendspace.com/file/m8im93

#36 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by Lost_N_BIOS 21.08.2018 10:40

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Sorry I didn't ask this earlier today, before I send back BIOS for you to program in, do you need any BIOS mods done to the BIOS such as CPU microcode updates or NVRAM module inserted?

1-4 all same, so this is valid complete backup, as it is on the chip now, very nice! Did you ever, after the recovery, set the jumper back and try flashing latest Intel .BIO file using their original method? Just curious if all this could be fixed with a BIOS update (Without recovery mode enabled), or had you already tried that

Working on BIOS now

Here, lets see if we can get you up and running, then if you need any changes I asked about above I can do in another round of mods.

ME version has been cleaned, settings transferred and updated version.

Put jumper back to default non-recovery position and leave there.

Take this BIOS file and do the following with your programmer.
1. Erase chip
2. Blank Check
3. On auto button up top, uncheck erase, & blank and leave write/verify.
4. Open BIOS file
5. Press Auto
6. When you get "All operation completed chip and buffer same" then it's verified write was OK, if they do not match write again using same steps, or user same steps with another software version

Hopefully this gets you going more smoothly and not have to do that dance you mentioned! If this still has issue, and ME shows up properly, we can try further BIOS region fixes or you can see if official update will then correct the issue via BIOS flashing
https://www.sendspace.com/file/of5396

After you program the chip and all shows OK. Please unplug the power supply from the wall, remove the CMOS battery, press and hold the power on button on the case (Or short power on pins on board) for 10-20 seconds.
Then let it sit without power for 1+ minutes, this will ensure the ME state is cleared. I am not certain if this is required when you do a re-programming like this, but good habit to follow when fixing ME issues?
@plutomaniac, can you confirm or deny if draining power to clear ME state is required when programming in BIOS w/ ME, thanks!

#37 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by ItxLeo 21.08.2018 12:03

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #36
Sorry I didn't ask this earlier today, before I send back BIOS for you to program in, do you need any BIOS mods done to the BIOS such as CPU microcode updates or NVRAM module inserted?

1-4 all same, so this is valid complete backup, as it is on the chip now, very nice! Did you ever, after the recovery, set the jumper back and try flashing latest Intel .BIO file using their original method? Just curious if all this could be fixed with a BIOS update (Without recovery mode enabled), or had you already tried that

Working on BIOS now

Here, lets see if we can get you up and running, then if you need any changes I asked about above I can do in another round of mods.

ME version has been cleaned, settings transferred and updated version.

Put jumper back to default non-recovery position and leave there.

Take this BIOS file and do the following with your programmer.
1. Erase chip
2. Blank Check
3. On auto button up top, uncheck erase, & blank and leave write/verify.
4. Open BIOS file
5. Press Auto
6. When you get "All operation completed chip and buffer same" then it's verified write was OK, if they do not match write again using same steps, or user same steps with another software version

Hopefully this gets you going more smoothly and not have to do that dance you mentioned! If this still has issue, and ME shows up properly, we can try further BIOS region fixes or you can see if official update will then correct the issue via BIOS flashing
https://www.sendspace.com/file/of5396

After you program the chip and all shows OK. Please unplug the power supply from the wall, remove the CMOS battery, press and hold the power on button on the case (Or short power on pins on board) for 10-20 seconds.
Then let it sit without power for 1+ minutes, this will ensure the ME state is cleared. I am not certain if this is required when you do a re-programming like this, but good habit to follow when fixing ME issues?
@plutomaniac, can you confirm or deny if draining power to clear ME state is required when programming in BIOS w/ ME, thanks!







Thanks a lot, now I'm gonna flash it. I will keep you updated.
To address your questions, I tried to do the standard flash after the recovery process, the problem was that it required a reboot and as we know the motherboard cannort reboot. Even the update method from windows required a reboot, and so nothing to do there.
I don't think I need any mods to be honest, I'm all about overclocking and the bios already looked pretty solid to me, unless you have anything to suggest. If there is something that can improve OC I would love to use it ;)

#38 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by Lost_N_BIOS 21.08.2018 12:14

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Even after you put back jumper, same applied?

Sounds like you are set, nothing I can add to the BIOS options anyway due to how Intel makes their BIOS (ie no tools for us to play with or view settings etc). The only thing I can do is update CPU microcodes for you I think.
Hopefully the BIOS and reset ME gets you all sorted out!

#39 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by ItxLeo 21.08.2018 12:26

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #38
Even after you put back jumper, same applied?

Sounds like you are set, nothing I can add to the BIOS options anyway due to how Intel makes their BIOS (ie no tools for us to play with or view settings etc). The only thing I can do is update CPU microcodes for you I think.
Hopefully the BIOS and reset ME gets you all sorted out!

WORKING! Man you are insane ahahaha
Even with a corrupted Intel bios, of which you couldn't find another copy and there aren't many tools for you managed to fix it!!!ù
I'm impressed. Very impressed.
Anyway yeah, even with the jumper. I tried everything I could before asking your help ^^
Do you know if with this programmer is possible to flash Vbioses? Because at this point the only thing that does not work in my house is a GTX 970 and soooo... ahaha
I'm getting greedy

#40 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by Lost_N_BIOS 21.08.2018 12:35

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Great all is fixed!! And no problem, you are very welcome!

I did have another unknown state dump to use in case I needed to fix any other BIOS regions, almost sent you a BIOS with fixed region swaps first, but your initial description of the issue sounded like it was maybe all Intel ME problems.
So I only used your dump, then put in a new clean ME w/ settings transferred from your old ME to the new ME version. So basically that was all you needed, ME fixed. Of course, manufacturers make stuff like that so hard, locking people out, that to fix you have to purchase tools.

Glad all is sorted out now though, sometimes fixing Intel BIOS can be a huge hassle, but this one was smooth sailing once you had a good dump. If you need any BIOS help you know where to find us!

Yes, with programmer you can program vBIOS, but you can do that on your 970 with software tools too.

#41 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by ItxLeo 21.08.2018 12:59

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #40
Great all is fixed!! And no problem, you are very welcome!

I did have another unknown state dump to use in case I needed to fix any other BIOS regions, almost sent you a BIOS with fixed region swaps first, but your initial description of the issue sounded like it was maybe all Intel ME problems.
So I only used your dump, then put in a new clean ME w/ settings transferred from your old ME to the new ME version. So basically that was all you needed, ME fixed. Of course, manufacturers make stuff like that so hard, locking people out, that to fix you have to purchase tools.

Glad all is sorted out now though, sometimes fixing Intel BIOS can be a huge hassle, but this one was smooth sailing once you had a good dump. If you need any BIOS help you know where to find us!

Yes, with programmer you can program vBIOS, but you can do that on your 970 with software tools too.

It's great man, you are really experienced in this. Do you work in the bios department of some manufacturer? I read this forum from quite sometime now and I often see you helping with any kind of problem!
My GTX 970 has a looooot of problems, maybe I would have better opening a thread just for it, in this way this thread remain pretty clean in case anyone experience the same/similar problem.
Also, I was thinking about uploading the modded bios for my Z170 K6 in the "Already modded bioses" section. I was waiting for a 6core-change-in-the-bios mod but I've looked everywhere and the PCIE fix link you sent me was just for PCIE, while the only guy in all the internet to have the 6core in the bios is Nick, who works at Asrock and has access to specialized tools. So yeah, I think I'm going to upload it as it is.

#42 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by Lost_N_BIOS 21.08.2018 21:43

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Thanks! No, I do not work for manufacturer, self taught and enjoy tinkering and that always leads to more knowledge.

Sorry, maybe I sent you wrong link, I'm pretty sure there is a core change thread count here somewhere, maybe two
Here is Fix HT thread, one I was thinking about - [GUIDE] Fixing HT for Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards (Z170, Z270)

Ohh wait, I think I know what you mean now, and not sure that is figured out yet, I was talking in PM with someone about this, maybe they have answer now @oldirdey did you ever figure that mod out?

#43 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by ItxLeo 22.08.2018 13:06

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #42
Thanks! No, I do not work for manufacturer, self taught and enjoy tinkering and that always leads to more knowledge.

Sorry, maybe I sent you wrong link, I'm pretty sure there is a core change thread count here somewhere, maybe two
Here is Fix HT thread, one I was thinking about - [GUIDE] Fixing HT for Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards (Z170, Z270)

Ohh wait, I think I know what you mean now, and not sure that is figured out yet, I was talking in PM with someone about this, maybe they have answer now @oldirdey did you ever figure that mod out?


I tried following that guide, the problem is I wasn't able to. I get lost when you need to extract the raw files, in the part 2. I cannot open them with iASL, could you help me?

#44 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by Lost_N_BIOS 22.08.2018 13:08

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I've never done that mod, but let me look it over and I will see about getting it done tomorrow night (leaving right now or I'd see now)

#45 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by oldirdey 22.08.2018 13:22

I didnt know exactly what ItxLeo´s problem is. Cant you change multiplier at all or only for first 4 Cores? And what option in setup are you using?

HT Fixing Guide is for 2 things. One thing is that the ACPI table is exented from 8 to 16 cores. This is done like on newer Z370 boards with 8 core +ht support. The second fix is to sync all cores. But with method from dsanke settings from core 1-4 will be copied to core 5-8. So after you can sync all cores (up to 8) but you can´t change core ratio independent for core 1-8.

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