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#16 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by ItxLeo 20.08.2018 13:41

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #15
Good they refunded you without hassles, and hope your new cable arrives soon!

I can do that entire mod, but I have no experience with using it personally. Do you need it all done, or are you stuck on a certain part of the mod process?

If you need it all done, please give me all info.
1. Link to BIOS you want modified, + dump of your current BIOS if you have.
2. ME version you want used and if you know from research if you need chipset changed or not.
3. Which CPU microcodes do you want put into the BIOS, and which are you OK with removing if you can only keep one older microcode.

Thanks mate, in the end I managed to do it in my own. I was stuck because I didn't change the SKU but a guy helped me ;)
Now the only problem I have with that project is I can't change the multiplier for all 6 cores but just for 4 of them, but I kinda got around it via BCLK overclocking, achieving a 4.75Ghz oc with 1.225 Vcore, pretty decent in my opinion. If you know how to change multi via bios it would be great but I think it is kinda difficoult because it should require specialized tools.
Anyway, I got the replacement of my programmer+clip for the X79 board, so in the next hours I'll try again to extract the bios. I will keep you updated!
*EDIT*
I hooked all up, no success at all. It keep giving me access violation.

Connected the power supply at the motherboard. Now it's even stranger. Sometimes it let me choose what chip I do have after pressing detect, but after the I have chosen, it gives me access violation.

If you haven't any ideas on what I could do to resolve wioth the SPI I'm good with setting up a test bench and flashing it via software. If I could flash the bios normally, it would resolve, I think. Because during the flashback process it does not restore the ME, but during the normal flash it does. The problem is I cannot dio the normal flash since the board need to restart and my problem is if the board restarts then it shut off. If I could force flash it via DOS I think I could get around it, but I don't know how to do. Anyway, SPI flashing would be the best option... But I'm managing to, I don't know why...ù

*EDIT PT.2* I've been messing around with it for a few hours, now I keep getting the chip detected, but only in the versions of the program which automatically select the name of the chip. In the one that makes me choose I still get access violation.
I can read the bios but I only see FF in the code of it. Anyway, on the left I Have theese informations:
Manufacture ID $EF
Memory Type $40
Memory Capacity $17
Device ID $16

I wonder if it is because the format of the bios is strange. It isn't .rom or .bin
It is .BIO
Which is also why I can't use afudos to flash it. I tried opening the BIOS file downloaded from the intel website in the programmer and some version of the software tells me the BIOS file is too long for the programmer. What a mess!
I'll wait for your help, since I don't have any more ideas about what to do

EDIT once again
I managed to read and verify one time, not sure if it is good but yeah, there we are. https://www.sendspace.com/file/uoc4sf

#17 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by Lost_N_BIOS 20.08.2018 19:10

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Ohh, cool you got it sorted out already then! I know they fixed that core count and HT issue on another thread, did you see that one? I think this is the one, but maybe that's only HT - [GUIDE] Fixing HT for Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards (Z170, Z270)

Are you trying different software versions too during all these issues? Try 1.31(1.4), in this package if you don't have already from me - https://www.sendspace.com/file/gtcmvd

There is no way to force flash due to the FD locks, ME would never get written no matter what. Send new images of how you have it all setup again, in case something wrong still.

So, progress? You don't have to match chip exactly always, sometimes even close or not same but close is best, and sometimes picking exact even causes issues. For example, chip might be W26Q64FVSIG, but choosing W26Q64 is fine/best or even choosing W26Q6BV works and exact does not or W26Q64FV does not.
Read the BIOS chip with light and magnifying glass if needed, and let me know full exact model of the chip and I'll give you a few example models to use instead of exact match

The only thing that is .BIO format is a BIOS from Intel downloads, what is on your chip is rom/bin. .BIO files are not used for any of this, do not look at them with anything in regards to this, they do not apply

I'll check your dump file linked, hopefully you got it! If It's bad or all blank I will edit this and update, if not I will fix BIOS issue and have you new BIOS to program later tonight.
Edit * Dump is bad and not valid at all, keep at it you'll figure it out shortly.

Put that jumper you mentioned on first post back to default position now, since recovery was not working no need to have that enabled.
And this may be causing issues now too.

#18 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by oldirdey 20.08.2018 19:17

Zitat von ItxLeo im Beitrag #16
[quote=Lost_N_BIOS|p57684]...*EDIT PT.2* I've been messing around with it for a few hours, now I keep getting the chip detected, but only in the versions of the program which automatically select the name of the chip. In the one that makes me choose I still get access violation.
I can read the bios but I only see FF in the code of it. Anyway, on the left I Have theese informations:...


Which CH341A did you use? Some of them didnt work at all, they use wrong 27Mhz crystal instead of correcf 12Mhz crystal.

I have CH341A in different colors. Black CH341A is able to read data via test clip, my green CH341A isnt able to read via testclip. But both of them read the chip correct if it´s put in the zif socket.

So best is to try to read another chip and take a look if you can read data. If yes then maybe the current is to low to power up some parts of the board.

#19 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by Lost_N_BIOS 20.08.2018 19:19

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He's got the black one you like images on page one. I think maybe just wrong chip selection, or software version and combo of that and wrong chip selected

#20 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by oldirdey 20.08.2018 19:23

Ok, then just take a look at the software/chip selection or the crystal. I found some people complaining about wrong crystal with 27mhz.

#21 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by Lost_N_BIOS 20.08.2018 19:45

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My black one you can't tell, crystal is unlabeled, but my green one I can see 12.000Mhz

#22 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by ItxLeo 20.08.2018 20:41

Sorry for the dimensions of the images but from the smartphone I don’t know how to resize them. Anyway, the exact model of the chip is: Winbond 25Q64CVSIG1221
Anmyway, I'm currently switching between all the versions of the program you gave me and a few others. I tried reinstalling and changing drivers numerous times

#23 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by Lost_N_BIOS 20.08.2018 21:00

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Thanks for new images. Try not identifying chip, or only selecting W25Q64 or W25Q64FV since BV is failing after identifying
Flip green PCB over, so that #1 is showing on top and lined up with red cable, and is on lever side of the adapter with #1 showing right along lever side.

Did you solder those pins to the green PCB? If not, that could be part of the problem, most are so loose I doubt that would ever work without solder, but I'm sure many have used them without soldering.
Seems like this might possibly be the issue since you are having such a tough time with this working/detecting properly. Maybe try to put pressure on that area as you use it, to keep good connection with the pins and PCB.
Or remove the PCB and only use the pins/cable, but if you do that make 100% sure you have orientation correct.

Please make sure you have them all in correctly before soldering if you do solder

#24 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by ItxLeo 20.08.2018 21:13

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #23
Thanks for new images. Try not identifying chip, or only selecting W25Q64 or W25Q64FV since BV is failing after identifying
Flip green PCB over, so that #1 is showing on top and lined up with red cable, and is on lever side of the adapter with #1 showing right along lever side.

Did you solder those pins to the green PCB? If not, that could be part of the problem, most are so loose I doubt that would ever work without solder, but I'm sure many have used them without soldering.
Seems like this might possibly be the issue since you are having such a tough time with this working/detecting properly.

Please make sure you have them all in correctly before soldering if you do solder

That PCB doesn't have numbers on it. I can swap it out for one that has numbers, but nothing changes.
They are not soldered, because I don't have the tools and the skill to solder/desolder ;(
I think one of the problems could be the drivers. The ones that I installed from your package are from 2009, and the 1.29 version of the software tells me "Wrong driver installed"

#25 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by Lost_N_BIOS 20.08.2018 21:19

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See my edit above, remove the PCB then to rule that loose connection out, make sure pins go into correct positions, red wire down to programmer at the lever corner.

Drivers, I am not sure about, all versions in my package open fine on my PC, including 1.29 and I am using those same drivers. Try 1.18 version if latest 1.31/1.40 is giving you issues

#26 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by ItxLeo 20.08.2018 21:43

Uninstalled and reinstalled 2009 drivers and now they works.
The thing is the PCB goes into place with the lever and it's kinda strange, it bents a bit. I managed to get a detect succesfully and to a read. Not too confident it will work to be honest, but I'll upload it there in a few seconds. I'm pretty sure the position of the PCB is right, anyway. https://www.sendspace.com/file/43ogte

#27 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by oldirdey 20.08.2018 22:07

Did you have some old computer cases where you can cut some cables off? It´s better to use the header next to the ziff socket.

#28 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by ItxLeo 20.08.2018 22:11

Zitat von oldirdey im Beitrag #27
Did you have some old computer cases where you can cut some cables off? It´s better to use the header next to the ziff socket.



Oh wow man
Unfortunately I haven't...
You look WAY good at this, do you have any ideas on why I'm not managing to do anything?

#29 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by oldirdey 20.08.2018 22:16

As you said, your connectors not soldered, this will cause contact issues. If you have time buy a set of these cables. They are cheap and you can use the header without all these additional contact from socket to pcb.

https://www.ebay.de/i/173133837623?chn=ps

Another question, why are your leds on the motherboard enlighted? Did you power on the mainboard or did they light up after connection spi programmer? don´t switch on the mainboard if you add external vcc!

#30 RE: Problem: DX79TO not booting properly by Lost_N_BIOS 20.08.2018 22:22

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You're getting there, or are there? That dump above is correct and partial BIOS, that may be all there is due to the corrupted BIOS (Source of the problem), or software versions still, lets be sure.

See if you can get a few more dumps like you did above, using the different versions of softare but make same chip ID choices. Then I will compare tonight and fix a BIOS for you. Luckily the one above contains NVRAM section which has your user data, hopefully all in tact

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