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#46 RE: <Request> Flagship X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Motherboard BIOS Fix by sandin 26.06.2018 11:14

@POE_UK
I installed AppCenter, Easy Tune, redistributables and direct x, and it still feels sluggish on my end. Is there any option I need to toggle in Easy Tune to make this work? I am using liquid cooling, so I'm not worried about temps. Easy Tune app doesn't provide any additional option other than those I already have in my bios (F4g).
Is there any special step I need to do in order to toggle EDC Throttling?

#47 RE: <Request> Flagship X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Motherboard BIOS Fix by ket 26.06.2018 14:45

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #29
Thanks for the hello and update @ket good to hear you're OK too!
Do you know any guide on how I can work with the CBS file in assembler, or general assembler guide that would teach me something in regards to this type of single file editing?


I just work directly with the extracted and converted file you get by using UEFI Tool and IFR Extractor.

#48 RE: <Request> Flagship X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Motherboard BIOS Fix by Lost_N_BIOS 26.06.2018 17:15

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Thanks @ket - so no assembler/disassembler needed? Maybe I can edit like I was imagining then, I need to dig out a board with similar BIOS and edit around to see if I can figure that out.
I tried a few ways changing hex values, but only for a single setting, one worked but rest especially any in CBS no difference at all.

#49 RE: <Request> Flagship X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Motherboard BIOS Fix by shrisha 26.06.2018 18:47

Yes I can get programmer tomorrow, my friend has it. But honestly I don't know if I can use it since the chip is soldered into the board, it is not removable.
But still I believe dual bios system will work just fine, I've seen it many times.
Yes any improvements are very welcome, Fail_CNT or anything what can improve performance only a big bonus :))
I really don't understand why gigabyte doing such a sloppy job. Under windows with Ryzen Master app I can easily overclock my CPU to 3900 MHz without even touching voltage, only if I want to go higher then I have to go for 1.3 and so on. But if I will try to do overclocking in bios, computer will only start from 3450 MHz highest. And with RAM it's even worse. My RAM can easily work on 3000 with XMP profile but if I enable it in bios the board will scream like crazy and will reset RAM speed to default 2166 but RAM voltage will leave on 1.35.
Very frustrating experience so far.
But lets see what we can do about it. :)))
Thanks again for giving your time for this!

#50 RE: <Request> Flagship X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Motherboard BIOS Fix by Lost_N_BIOS 26.06.2018 20:22

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You're welcome! You need jumper cable, like this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/263708580560

Or tools that I use, cost is a bit more but worth it in the end because the programmer has several built in sockets and the adapter included covers everything else
You can get soldered, or solderless adapter, solderless shown in info in this thread below, post #50
[Request] Dell Vostro 260 - Add Ivy Bridge support (4)

Since you already have programmer, you only need a solderless adapter and spare flash rom from that seller above, or soldered on version with spare rom included.
Message him and ask if you decide to go that route, he will sell you just adapter w/ rom even if no current ebay listing for that.
You want SOP8 150mil / 200mil adapter solder type or solderless type with DIP8 adapter combo, be sure you tell him it's for jumping already soldered on motherboard BIOS so it's not DIP8 on the bottom, he will know what you need.
It will come with DIP8 adapter and solderless adapter together, like you see here. SOP8 top part can be solderless to hold new BIOS or soldered type, then it connects via DIP8 into bottom section that has "Jumper" pins to go over soldered on SOP8 motherboard BIOS

Current version does not look like what's in images on ebay, it's very small square like you see here.

I know how you feel, confident, but I have seen Dual BIOS fail many times too so it's not always a win. And with new board like this you can't short pins like you could in the old ways, due to new BIOS is quad I/O vs old type that was dual I/O
I didn't look, or did look and forgot, does your board have BIOS switch where you can select BIOS 1 or BIOS 2? If yes, then recover is much easier! You can switch BIOS to boot, then boot to DOS, switch the switch back to messed up BIOS and then flash BIOS again

I will make you fail_CNT BIOS tonight. This wont help overclocking, but it will help when memory overclocking fails, so it only takes one fail to restart instead of 3+ attempt to try rebooting with failed memory settings.

Once you have jumnper cable, or adapter from ebay I mentioned, I'd feel a lot more comfortable sending you BIOS mod like I mentioned to see the outcome.
If you don't want to wait, you can do that mod yourself using MMTool 5.02, extract "Setup" module from one, insert into other via replace.
I advise against this until you have tools in hand and are ready to be able to recover, or if you have another system to use and don't mind dead PC sitting there while you wait on tools to arrive via China mail

#51 RE: <Request> Flagship X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Motherboard BIOS Fix by POE_UK 27.06.2018 00:09

Zitat von sandin im Beitrag #46
@POE_UK
I installed AppCenter, Easy Tune, redistributables and direct x, and it still feels sluggish on my end. Is there any option I need to toggle in Easy Tune to make this work? I am using liquid cooling, so I'm not worried about temps. Easy Tune app doesn't provide any additional option other than those I already have in my bios (F4g).
Is there any special step I need to do in order to toggle EDC Throttling?


Run intel burntest AVX, at 4.3ghz you should be getting well over 220GFlops if you get around 170 to 180 EDC is not enabled

this is the one you want here, its been designed for amd too and will give proper results. without relaxed EDC throttling set to enabled you are basically losing the power of a core2quad q6600 in gflops on top of the ryzens compute power, and thats a lot of performance lost.

https://quickfileshare.org/9uw?pt=IszzkT...0EI9cvjVHln8%3D

#52 RE: <Request> Flagship X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Motherboard BIOS Fix by POE_UK 27.06.2018 00:15

Mines working perfect at the moment after i edited everything so i will leave it well alone for now.

Excercise extreme caution with gigabyte boards, i cannot stress this enough.

Also i will tell you NEVER flash from the qflash in the bios ALWAYS do it from a dos prompt im pretty sure ket is with me on this one, and certainly NEVER EVER do it from windows, and ALWAYS (very important) reset to defaults before you do any bios flash.

Reason i say this is, if theres a problem with qflash in the bios itself (common) you will end up with a dead board, make no mistake it WILL happen. qflash is capable of destroying both bios rom chips with one click if it has a problem, and theres no way of knowing this until its too late, usually what happens is the board will be stuck in a constant debug boot loop. if the dip switch is set to single or dual bios makes no difference qflash can override it. Dos cannot.

Im seriously tempted to erase all traces of qflash from within the bios file itself. this is the reason why gigabyte after the millions of complaints of dead boards were forced to fit a bios socket.

Even a corrupt windows install can destroy the bios entries in these boards, i am the proof of this. windows and the uefi talk to eachother every few seconds and if theres something wrong its goodbye motherboard, my old gaming 5 board actually blew up my r7 1700 cpu.

This is just a friendly warning, gigabytes uefi bioses are very fragile so be careful fella.

Also the vcore overclocking voltages work on an additive principle, meaning if you use p-states to overclock, it will add the voltage on top of your fixed voltage, this alone can kill your cpu, one mistake and you will be pumping 2v into the processor, on air cooling expect the cpu to last 2 hours.

Im going to contact gigabyte tomorrow just in case my bios chip just randomly decides to quit working, so ive got a replacement ready, without this will be a real pain in the ass as my machines watercooled with petg tubing.

Oh and before i go i will tell you as far as mainstream cpus go, intel are dead, amd have announced 32 core ryzen to be released in 2 months time, for 100 uk pounds cheaper than a flagship intel i9 and much much faster.

#53 RE: <Request> Flagship X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Motherboard BIOS Fix by shrisha 27.06.2018 20:43

@Lost_N_BIOS
I ordered the DIP8 and solder-less adapters. Now, the waiting game begin :( Hope it will come soon. Will let you know as soon as I will get it.
Thank you.

#54 RE: <Request> Flagship X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Motherboard BIOS Fix by Lost_N_BIOS 27.06.2018 20:50

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Great, he ships quick, not like usual China mail, often 12-15 days only. On solderless side, there will be #1 on the PCB that goes opposite side/below of pin #1 in top corner, not sure why he did that, but Pin #1 can't go there, if attempt to put on that side it would be on the other end.
When putting solderless bottom to board, pin #1 on bottom PCB will line up with pin #1 dot/mark on the boards BIOS. It will come second nature once you have it and test install a few times. If it's backwards chip will get super hot instantly, so you will know

#55 RE: <Request> Flagship X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Motherboard BIOS Fix by Lost_N_BIOS 28.06.2018 07:02

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@shrisha - here is BIOS mod for you with simple fix Fail_CNT = 1 instead of default value = 3. Same changes you see noted in post #4 of this thread, this modification confirmed working by POE_UK
http://www.filedropper.com/x470-aorus-ul...f3g-mod-failcnt

#56 RE: <Request> Flagship X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Motherboard BIOS Fix by POE_UK 30.06.2018 00:57

Well at last gigabyte have updated the appcenter for x470 and the onboard RGB works 100% perfect, ive now got 6 zone and digital panel led control on this board just tested it, lol, rather funny.

you can fully set each zone to do its own thing, its excellent. something not ever possible on the gaming5 and k7

#57 RE: <Request> Flagship X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Motherboard BIOS Fix by thiih_ 14.07.2018 15:55

Hello guys, could anyone re-upload the BIOS file with Fail_CNT = 1 for X470 Gaming 7 WiFi? or send it on my email (thiago.giaxa@gmail.com).. I have an extremilly stable overclock on my memory but its a pain in the as* to make it boot, but once it booted, it works like a charm (1000% HCI) and I have zero problems... Fail_CNT=1 would help a lot!

really appreciate, thanks!

#58 RE: <Request> Flagship X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Motherboard BIOS Fix by Lost_N_BIOS 14.07.2018 22:42

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@thiih_ - thanks for notice, I didn't realize filedropper links die so quickly. Updated link on page one post #4 as well.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/mth7wh

#59 RE: <Request> Flagship X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Motherboard BIOS Fix by POE_UK 15.07.2018 03:51

Well as usual i've heard nothing from gigabyte yet about adding "relaxed EDC Throttling" they just arent interested at all, theyve even taken down one of the bios files for this board from their website for some reason too. they promised they would get back to me about this but they havent so it looks like its a case of waiting and waiting some more to see if they actually release an update to fix it.

As you can see from my intel burn test results this boards no slouch with the 2700x, its a damn shame gigabyte dont seem to be interested in fixing its flagship mainboard.

#60 RE: <Request> Flagship X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Motherboard BIOS Fix by mtrai 22.09.2018 23:12

Are y'all still working on this? I am trying to use what y'all have done and take it further.

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