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#1471 RE: Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers by Arctucas 01.06.2019 14:02

Fernando,

I had a RAID0 array created when I first tried to install the OS, but the OS would not install on it for some reason.

Therefore, I broke the array, and used a single (one of the two installed, the other is empty) nvme drive to install the OS.

You had asked for the hardware ID of my SATA controller, which I thought a bit odd, but I presumed you needed the info, so I provided it. I have an optical drive connected to the SATA controller, by the way.

I believed that IRST software could be installed, even though there is no RAID array. I have an older (Z77) motherboard on which I have IRST running, and it has three SATA connected, non-RAID HDD (one OS and two storage), and I have no issues with the IRST software.

Will the IRST software need to be slipstreamed into the OS install disc?

Or, is it not possible to install IRST on my rig? I have added the hardware to my sig.

Thanks for your patience.

#1472 RE: Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers by Fernando 01.06.2019 18:15

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@Arctucas:

  1. Currently you cannot get any Intel RST Software installed, because there are no HDDs/SSDs connected to any Intel SATA port or Intel NVMe Controller.
  2. The installation of the IRST Software only makes sense, if you have created an Intel RAID array. Single (not RAIDed by an Intel RAID Utility) SSDs do not benefit from the Software.
  3. After having successfully created an Intel RAID0 array consisting of 2 or more NVMe SSD, you should be able to install the OS onto it.
Zitat von Arctucas im Beitrag #1471
Will the IRST software need to be slipstreamed into the OS install disc?
No, only the matching storage driver is required. The Intel RST Software is able to monitor the health of the SSDs, which are managed by any Intel SATA or Intel NVMe Controller, but has no impact on the function of them.

#1473 RE: Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers by Arctucas 01.06.2019 18:51

Fernando,

OK, so having the nvmes through the Samsung controller is the issue?

Please forgive my ignorance, but how do I get nvmes on the Intel controller?

Thanks again.

#1474 RE: Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers by Fernando 01.06.2019 21:10

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@Arctucas:
Yes, the Intel RST drivers and the related RST software do not directly support Samsung NVMe Controllers.
Nevertheless you may be able to get an Intel NVMe driver installed instead of the currently running Samsung NVMe driver.
This is the way how to do it:
1. Download and unzip the latest 64bit Intel RST driver, which belongs to the v16 platform.
2. Expand the "Storage Controllers" section of the Device Manager, right-click onto the listed "Samsung NVMe Controller" and choose the options "Update driver" > "Browse my computer..." > "Let me pick..."
3. Hit the "Have Disk" button, navigate to the Intel RST driver folder and click onto the file named iaStorAC.inf. You will be asked, which one of the listed Controllers you want to use.
4. Choose the "Intel NVMe Controller". You will get a message, that the driver may not support your specific system.
7. Install it nevertheless.
After the next reboot your Samsung NVMe SSD(s) will use the desired Intel RST NVMe driver.

#1475 RE: Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers by Arctucas 01.06.2019 21:42

Fernando,

I got the 16.8.2.1002 IRST from your list of drivers, did as you instructed, but I get a pop-up that says:

'The folder you specified doesn't contain a compatible software driver for your device. If the folder contains a driver, make sure it is compatible with Windows for 64-bit systems.'

#1476 RE: Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers by Fernando 01.06.2019 23:26

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@Arctucas:
As I just have realized, the Intel RST v16 platform drivers do only support modern Windows Operating Systems from Windows 8 up.
The reason for the message you got is, that you are running Windows 7.
I am sorry about my misleading advice. You will have to stick with the Samsung NVMe driver.

#1477 RE: Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers by Arctucas 01.06.2019 23:37

Fernando,

So, no IRST for me?

#1478 RE: Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers by Fernando 02.06.2019 00:33

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Zitat von Arctucas im Beitrag #1477
So, no IRST for me?
Not with your currently used OS and NVMe SSDs.

#1479 RE: Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers by Arctucas 02.06.2019 13:49

Fernando,

I see.

If I were using Intel nvme M.2 drives, would that make a difference, or is it W7 and the Z390 chipset that is the real issue?

#1480 RE: Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers by EddieZ 02.06.2019 15:12

HI Fernando & all other board members,

I've switched from Intel to AMD, so I need to do some catching op on the best drivers.

My current set is AMD x470 mobo (Asus), with Ryzen 2 2600X and disks (no RAID):
* WD Black M.2 NVMe SN750 (Windows/boot drive)
* 3 SSD SATA (old OZC, Samsung 830, WD Green)

I have installed currently the generic MS AHCI 1.0 driver, and the standard MS NVMe driver.
Running the latest AMD chipset driver.

I noticed some options:
- The basic AMD AHCI driver (2012)
- On this board: The AMD NVMe drivers.
- New AMD AHCI/RAID driver

So what are my best choices here? Any benefit in switching drivers?

#1481 RE: Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers by Fernando 02.06.2019 16:04

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@Arctucas:
There is no issue with your system.
The best possible NVMe driver for your system is the Samsung one you are currently running.
Why do you insist wanting to get any Intel RST driver (and maybe aditionally the IRST Software) installed?
If you would change the OS to Win10, you would have more options incl. using an Intel RST NVMe RAID0 array, but I doubt, that you would be satisfied with the stability of such RAID configuration.

@EddieZ:
You forgot to mention the OS you are running resp. want to install.
If it should be In10, I recommend to use the in-box MS storage drivers.

#1482 RE: Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers by Arctucas 02.06.2019 17:44

Fernando,

I simply want to run a RAID0 array, have been using one for about ten years, never had any problems.

W10 is not an option until I figure out how to prevent all the shenanigans, i.e. forced updates, telemetry and data mining; AKA spying, etc.

Actually, I might be better off running a Linux Live disc.

Thanks for all your help, it has been quite informative.

#1483 RE: Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers by Fernando 02.06.2019 19:49

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Zitat von Arctucas im Beitrag #1482
I simply want to run a RAID0 array, have been using one for about ten years, never had any problems.
You should not compare an Intel RAID0 array consisting of 2 or more SSDs, which are managed by the chipset own on-board Intel SATA Controller, with an Intel RAID0 array, whose members are managed by Samsung NVMe Controllers, which are located within third party SSDs.

#1484 RE: RE:[Discussions] NVMe Support by IMABEARLOL 11.06.2019 18:25

Hello. I have a recent SuperMicro board, the M11SDV-8C-LN4F. I actually have two of them. I'm trying to get the boards to recognize an ADATA SX8200 Pro 512GB NVMe M.2 SSD. I also have two of those. (https://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherb...SDV-8C-LN4F.cfm)

I cannot get the boards to recognize the SSDs in the M.2 slots, however they are recognized in M.2 riser adapters in the PCI-E slot (simple electrical riser, no PEX or controller onboard). I need that slot for an HBA card though, and it's a 1U case so I can't enabled bifurcation and split that slot.

I was able to detect a Samsung M.2 SATA SSD in the M.2 slot.

I'm not trying to boot from the NVMe drive, just have it recognized to use as a caching drive by the OS.

I've tried modifying the BIOS and flashing it. I've tried inserting the NvmExpressDXE_4 driver, and I've tried removing the existing NVM drivers in the BIOS first then inserting the NvmExpressDXE_4 driver.

SuperMicro support is useless, told me to refer to their "tested list" which consists of one series of Toshiba drives that are more less EoL. They could not provide any technical reason why their boards would have limited support with other SSDs.

Any thoughts?

#1485 RE: Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers by Fernando 11.06.2019 19:56

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@IMABEARLOL:
Welcome to the Win-RAID Forum!
I have moved your post into the "Storage Drivers" section of the Forum, because you have a modern system with a BIOS, which should natively detect and support NVMe SSDs.

To be able to help you, I need some additional information:
1. Which OS are you running?
2. How many and which sort of HDDs/SSDs are connected to which mainboard Storage Controller?
3. Have you checked, whether the on-board M.2 port shares data transfer lanes with any SATA port (look into your mainboard manual)?
4. Does the BIOS detect and show the NVMe SSD after its insertion into the M.2 port?

Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)

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