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#76 RE: Recommended AHCI and RAID Drivers by 100PIER 18.08.2014 18:47

@Fernando,
I have re-downloaded the 64bit V 1.4.1.0 driver to be sure.
Manual installation has been done with the 'have disk' option. Reboot also done.
Driver seems well installed , up and running well.
However I don't got TRIM and SMART support.
I don't see why, except the fact I use e_SATA And a docking e_SATA station where the SATA 2 SSD is plugged in ?


#77 RE: Recommended AHCI and RAID Drivers by 100PIER 18.08.2014 18:52

Of course TRIMCHECK V 0.6 is well installed on the external SSD i use to do the test.
Even several retries or a reboot doesnt produce the 'TRIM is working' message.

#78 RE: Recommended AHCI and RAID Drivers by Fernando 18.08.2014 18:52

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Zitat von 100PIER im Beitrag #77
However I don't got TRIM and SMART support.
I don't see why, except the fact I use e_SATA And a docking e_SATA station where the SATA 2 SSD is plugged in ?
Can you test it by using an internal ASMedia 106x SATA port?

#79 RE: Recommended AHCI and RAID Drivers by 100PIER 18.08.2014 19:00

@Fernando,

It is not possible on this motherboard (ASUS P8Z77 V Deluxe), there is no internal ASM106x SATA port....

#80 RE: Recommended AHCI and RAID Drivers by Fernando 18.08.2014 19:10

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Zitat von 100PIER im Beitrag #80
It is not possible on this motherboard (ASUS P8Z77 V Deluxe), there is no internal ASM106x SATA port....
It is a pity, that you cannot test it yourself, but I am pretty sure, that the difference between your an SoNic67's test results can be explained by the different sorts of the SSD SATA connection (eSATA vs. SATA).

#81 RE: Recommended AHCI and RAID Drivers by SoNic67 18.08.2014 20:32

Trimcheck Version 0.7 was posted (see my link on previous page).
However, from what I saw on my card, the chipset uses different lanes for the external connectors - they can activate any 2 connectors from the 4 possible options (see below). So... that might affect the end result.
As I said, my card came with even an older driver (1.1.9.0 dated 01/30/2011), didn't need to test it but I will post it if needed...
Or he can just install the MS generic AHCI driver for a quick test.

#82 RE: Recommended AHCI and RAID Drivers by 100PIER 18.08.2014 21:53

When using V 2.0.8.000 WHQL ASM106xx SATA driver I get also NO TRIM (Trimcheck V 0.7) function and NO SMART function on any of the two the e_SATA ports.
Moreover CrystalDiskinfo (V 6.1.14 or V 6.2) doesnot see the external drive....
However, Crystaldiskmark sees well the external drive.
I see that when using V 2.0.8.000 driver W7 Configuration Panel sees differently (as SCSI) than with V 1.4.1.0 (as IDE).

Using V 1.4.1.0 I see also better performance (CrystalDiskMark bench, AnvilPro bench, AS_SSD bench, ATTO bench) , and CrystalDiskinfo sees the external drive (SSD) but does not report any SMART infos.

So, at this day my preference is to use the V 1.4.1.0 driver for the ASMEDIA106xx e_SATA ports for this mboard (ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe, modded BIOS UBU 8.2).

#83 RE: Recommended AHCI and RAID Drivers by SoNic67 18.08.2014 23:46

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#84 RE: Recommended AHCI and RAID Drivers by Xeny 19.08.2014 09:40

Zitat von Fernando
I didn't ask you to show me the "Properties" of the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" section. What I wanted to see were the "Properties" > "Driver" > "Driver Details" of the 2 listed Controllers. Why didn't you hit the tab "Driver" after having opened the "Properties" of the "AMD PCI IDE Controller" (pic 1 and 2)?

Hey Fernando, just letting you know, I did hit the Tab "Driver" but all it gave was the info on the maker, Advanced Micro Devices, the version, the usual, so I didn't take a pic, as I was concerned about the amount of pics being posted, and being told it was too many, that kind of thing. I was a forum poster for a few web sites, so as nervous as I was, I just made as few posts of pics as possible, and since I figured you have seen the driver details of many a driver in Windows Device Manager, I figured the more important IMAGE you needed to view was of these drivers actually running on my computer, which I showed you with Serviwin.

In part, I also explained the issue about not taking the pics of the details of driver, but perhaps you missed it, as some of what I typed might be muddled to you, as I tend to use other words to describe what I mean than is the dedicated norm. Regardless, I felt that the point of our conversation was getting off track and away from my initial inquiry.

I do feel that in the process of the discussion, I have gained new knowledge regarding my issue and the computer as a whole, so I did not leave the discussion empty-minded.

Take Care, and fortune to you in the future.
Xeny

EDIT by Fernando: Quoting corrected

#85 RE: Recommended AHCI and RAID Drivers by Fernando 19.08.2014 09:54

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@ Xeny:
Thanks for your reply.
This is my conclusion after having seen your pictures:
1. Your computer has 2 different storage controllers.
2. One of them is running in AHCI mode, the other in IDE mode.
3. None of the 2 controllers is using an AMD AHCI driver.
4. The storage controller, which is running in IDE mode, is an AMD one.

#86 RE: Recommended AHCI and RAID Drivers by Fernando 30.08.2014 00:25

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Today Pacman has published at Station-Drivers new ASMedia 106x SATA3 AHCI STOR drivers v2.0.9.1 WHQL for Win8/Win7and AHCI SCSI drivers v2.0.3.2 WHQL for Win8/Win7/Vista/XP.
As a consequence I have tested both drivers with my Z97 system, which has 4 ASMedia 106x SATA3 ports running in AHCI mode.
Result: TRIM is not working (neither with the ASMedia AHCI driver v2.0.9.1 nor with the v2.0.3.2).
Nevertheless I decided to update the start post of this thread.

Update of the start post

Changelog:

  • new: 32/64bit ASMedia 106x SATA3 AHCI drivers v2.0.9.1 WHQL dated 03/26/2014 for Win8/8.1 and Win7 (x86/x64)


Good luck with these ASMedia AHCI drivers!
Fernando

#87 RE: Recommended AHCI and RAID Drivers by SoNic67 31.08.2014 01:58

I can confirm, the 2.0.9.1 don't have TRIM working either.
To me it seems that only when the device driver is in the "IDE/ATA ATAPI" section, TRIM is working. Since they moved it into "Storage Controllers" (SCSI) section, they lost the TRIM. It's sad...

#88 RE: Recommended AHCI and RAID Drivers by EmmaRoyd 29.09.2014 17:57

Zitat von Xeny im Beitrag #69
nightmare of driver service AMD/ATI provides their customer .


i admit i am an amd fan girl but only because of their price/performance ration, they always were 'good enough'(my triple core athlon II 435 was a little beauty for 65quid ish) but driver support was a bitch. there was a back door for developers for drivers page and it was sweet but the ratbags closed that. a driver update utility would report a new SB driver so yoy download the 25mb package just to find out the SB driver was the same one, not happy when my internet is pay as you go and thats 25mb wasted! having had a temp dell usff intel, what a difference to find the drivers using intels scanner. thats why im looking at ivy bridge hardware(corr its getting tight now) over a kaveri setup.
sorry amd, but you suck.

#89 RE: Recommended AHCI and RAID Drivers by Fernando 29.09.2014 18:12

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@ EmmaRoyd:

Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!
I am not sure, which sort of driver you are looking for.
Please give us more details about your system.

Regards
Fernando

#90 RE: Recommended AHCI and RAID Drivers by EmmaRoyd 29.09.2014 18:22

thank you,,,
until my new system is purchased i dont have the foggiest what i will need to be honest, but being 'home user plus' i thought it best to signup at a few knowledgeable places and finding a link to here through your posts i thought it couldnt hurt, besides, i have a load of amd drivers that could well come in handy to others.

Emma

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