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#16 RE: How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) by XPLives 07.08.2019 15:38

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@infuscomus
Z370
Yes used the Diderius6 Acpi.sys file in that test. The graphic card works as in you can use it boot into the OS. The problem is in the device manager the graphics card is not listed there so you can install the driver for it. Strange eh?
Never seen this happen before.

In the NO ACPI install that I did ages it does show up in Device Manager. And I did manage to get that card installed and working and played Blu-rays on it while underclocked just beautifully.

I even swapped the GT 710 and installed my fanless GTX 750 into the AMD AM4 and even with the ACPI functioning for dual cores the same stuttering lagging issue and near 100% CPU utilization occurred. It could be the Bristol Ridge is underpowered but even with dual cores working and maxing out the clock it didn't make much of a difference compared to my single core NO ACPI test. I think there's something wrong with AMD AM4 running XP 32-bit as there should be plenty of power in that CPU to do the job unless somehow the CPU is underpowered. The only good thing is the graphics card does show up on the X370-A so I was able to test both AMD and nVidia graphics card on it. The APU doesn't work in XP even with modding. So it doesn't appear to be related to graphics card version that does work in XP.

In my older GT 710 tests it is plenty powerful enough a card to play Blu-rays even on dual core Ivy Bridge celerons. In fact probably over powered for the job. So disappointing. I'm not sure if going to a R7 3700 will even rival a i5-2500K if there's some compatibility issue going on here. I might have to do some tests again on an Ivy Bridge celeron dual core to see if it works fine as I don't recall it being an issue and see if 800 MHz is enough or running on 1 core.

#17 RE: How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) by infuscomus 07.08.2019 15:59

@XPLives

I have not tested any Bristol Ridge CPUs for myself -
wow! Bristol Ridge is 28nm from 2016! - old Bulldozer design from when AMD were way behind intel (intel were on 14nm by 2016)

have you had any chance to test any newer Ryzen CPUs?

#18 RE: How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) by XPLives 07.08.2019 16:15

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@infuscomus
Most of these tests were done about 2 weeks ago or so. Finally had time to post the results.

The AMD USB driver worked on one USB controller like yours while the other did not.

Copied large Video file from USB source to SATA hard drive.
Transfer rates:
1.77->1.82 GB per minute
29.50->30.33 MB per second (no where near USB 3.0 theoretical speeds, and closer to USB 2.0 speeds)

During copying files off the USB source it can cause the USB mouse to lag.

When using USB audio on the USB port and playing a video file off a USB storage device on another port will cause the video to lag.

Playing the video file off the internal SATA hard drive does not cause a problem while playing audio off USB Audio.

So do not use USB Audio and playing a video off the USB storage device.

USB Webcam has an issue streaming over 940x544 resolution at 15fps.

Even on standard USB 2.0 port it can stream 1920x1080 at 10 fps normally.

#19 RE: How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) by infuscomus 07.08.2019 16:34

@XPLives

which AMD USB driver did you use? 1.0.5.3?

#20 RE: How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) by XPLives 07.08.2019 16:39

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@infuscomus

Zitat von infuscomus im Beitrag #17
@XPLives

I have not tested any Bristol Ridge CPUs for myself -
wow! Bristol Ridge is 28nm from 2016! - old Bulldozer design from when AMD were way behind intel (intel were on 14nm by 2016)

have you had any chance to test any newer Ryzen CPUs?


I think it would be fair despite 2011 Intel vs 2016 AMD technological differences. A 32nm Sandy Bridge dual core celeron vs a 28nm Bulldozer dual core I could perform if Ivy Bridge has you concerned. Both both chips are similar in performance despite die shrink. In some cases some would prefer Sandy Bridge since you can overclock them higher than Ivy Bridge.

And after using the ACPI.sys to get the dual cores working on the Bristol Ridge it still didn't show any real improvement. You'd expect at least double the performance or a drop in CPU usage from 100% down some even 10% or more. If I had a quad core or octa core AM4 CPU test I would have done a comparison to see if it was still stuck at 100%. Even playing a DVD file it seemed overly taxed. But again changing to a more powerful GTX 750 didn't show any change in performance and was still laggy. So either the CPU itself is pure crap or there is a compatibility issue even with the ACPI.sys mod.

Unfortunately unless you can donate a R7 3700 to test I'm not sure whether it's really the CPU holding it back.

I just checked the BIOS updates and it just got Ryzen 9 3900X support added!
Looks like X370-A MBs are getting 12 Cores which means the monster 16 Cores will be supported in September/October since it's been 1 month after 7-7-19.

I used the one you referred to me. I think it was an unmodded standard AMD USB driver.
Was this originally from AMD's own website?

#21 RE: How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) by infuscomus 07.08.2019 16:44

@XPLives

I'm sure the USB driver would be on AMDs website, most likely in the chipset driver package.

#22 RE: How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) by XPLives 07.08.2019 16:46

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@infuscomus

Zitat von infuscomus im Beitrag #21
@XPLives

I'm sure the USB driver would be on AMDs website, most likely in the chipset driver package.


Have you tested any of the modded drivers to get your other AMD USB 3.0 USB ports working at full speed?

#23 RE: How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) by infuscomus 07.08.2019 16:53

@XPLives

I have not properly tested the modded USB drivers (besides install) on my AMD system, but I believe @diderius6 has fully tested them.

#24 RE: How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) by XPLives 07.08.2019 17:12

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@infuscomus

Zitat von infuscomus im Beitrag #23
@XPLives

I have not properly tested the modded USB drivers (besides install) on my AMD system, but I believe @diderius6 has fully tested them.


I think he's using a modified BIOS as well which may have different results for others.

There are many USB devices to test. Also sustained transfer rate speeds and plugging multiple USB devices together such as USB Audio, USB Keyboard, USB Mouse, USB Webcam, and USB storage device and playing the HD video. USB Webcam maxed out resolution tests. USB Scanner and Printer might be fine since they shouldn't consume too much bandwidth. I noticed it's possible one of these will not work properly or the transfer speeds are not sustained or may even freeze the drive during usage. So don't test on important data in case of corruption. Short data bursts isn't an issue. Which is why in some cases a modded USB driver is useful for USB mouse, USB keyboard, and USB audio only which are safe. USB storage is meant for short bursts. I'm sure if you tried copying 1TB of sustained data between drives to see if it completes would be a more definite test if it doesn't get interrupted or any signs that the transfer rates slow down to a crawl or freeze momentarily.

#25 RE: How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) by Dercrysis 07.09.2019 05:38

is there any way i can install windows XP(32bit) with gigabytes A320-S2H MB? I tried to do it but eneded up with ACPI bsods, and there isn't an option to disable ACPI in bios, and also, is there any Sata/AMD drivers i can possibly merge with this motherboard that i can possibly get this to run this motherboard?

#26 RE: How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) by infuscomus 07.09.2019 09:20

@Dercrysis

patched ACPI and USB 3.0 driver

Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts (149)

AHCI driver

Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts (112)

#27 RE: How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) by Dercrysis 08.09.2019 04:14

Zitat von infuscomus im Beitrag #26
@Dercrysis

patched ACPI and USB 3.0 driver

Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts (149)

AHCI driver

Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts (112)

I merged the the AHCI drivers with XPx86 with Nlite but i got a BSOD. Now with the patched ACPI, how does that work? Do i need to something with the ACPI.sys file, because i have never dealt with ACPI.sys files before....

#28 RE: How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) by Dercrysis 09.09.2019 03:49

Any comments on this? ^

#29 RE: How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) by infuscomus 09.09.2019 09:02

@Dercrysis

grab cabpack 1.4 -
https://www.techspot.com/downloads/7104-cabpack.html

in cabpack 1.4 point it towards acpi.sys
for example

Source Dir or File:
C:\ACPIPATCH\ACPI.SYS

Destination Dir:
C:\ACPIPATCH\

CabinetNameTemplate:
ACPI.SY_

once you have ACPI.SY_ you copy it into your XP I386 folder and replace it

Secondly, there is usually a backup copy of acpi.sys in SP2.CAB SP3.CAB and/or DRIVER.CAB (i forget which) that will need replacing

So for example, use 7zip to extract SP3.CAB to a folder - C:\ACPIPATCH\SP3

copy C:\ACPIPATCH\ACPI.SYS into C:\ACPIPATCH\SP3 and overwrite it

then with cabpack 1.4

Source Dir or File:
C:\ACPIPATCH\SP3

Destination Dir:
C:\ACPIPATCH\

CabinetNameTemplate:
SP3.CAB

now that you have ACPI.SY_ and SP3.CAB, copy them to your XP I386 folder and overwrite.

then rebuild ISO with nlite.

#30 RE: How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) by XPLives 22.09.2019 09:26

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@Dercrysis|p87793

Zitat von Dercrysis im Beitrag #25
is there any way i can install windows XP(32bit) with gigabytes A320-S2H MB? I tried to do it but ended up with ACPI bsods, and there isn't an option to disable ACPI in bios, and also, is there any Sata/AMD drivers i can possibly merge with this motherboard that i can possibly get this to run this motherboard?


The ACPI issue can be bypassed using the F7 or F5 method when the F2/F6 option pops up on the screen when it starts loading the drivers you keep tapping the F7 key if using the optical disc drive to install XP. However from my testing MPS mode did not work which means it will revert to single core only but will properly work in Standard PC mode. On Intel it will recognize all your CPU cores but missing hyperthreading. Make sure you have a PS/2 keyboard connected to the PS/2 port.

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