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#376 RE: [OFFER] ASUS CrossHair V Formula Z MOD bios 2201 by boombastik 29.09.2020 00:07

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I am good at finding eratta (bugs) ! I think the last samsung drive that is combatible is the 830 model.

#377 RE: [OFFER] ASUS CrossHair V Formula Z MOD bios 2201 by Pill Monster 29.09.2020 01:05

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Zitat von boombastik im Beitrag #376
I am good at finding eratta (bugs) ! I think the last samsung drive that is combatible is the 830 model.


Did you see Bugzilla?

Maybe try posting on AMD Dev's forum (if you haven't already).......? Might get a better response from AMD than Samsung....

Just a suggestion. :)

#378 RE: [OFFER] ASUS CrossHair V Formula Z MOD bios 2201 by GamingFTW 29.09.2020 01:40

First post here, I wanted thanks for everything @Phoenix48
When I get more financial stability I will donate.

This weekend I was playing around with increasing the PCIe link speed.
I was able to get it to 114 link speed before the NVMe device does not show up anymore and the bios would think there is no boot drive.

This is my current setup.

I have a Mailiya M.2 PCIe to PCIe 3.0 x4 Adapter and an Corsair Force MP600 2TB.

At 100 PCIe link speed, bandwidth is 5.99GB/s (3DMark PCIe Benchmark)
At 110 PCIe link speed, bandwidth is 6.59GB/s (3DMark PCIe Benchmark)
At 112 PCIe link speed, bandwidth is 6.70GB/s (3DMark PCIe Benchmark)
At 114 PCIe link speed, bandwidth is 6.82GB/s (3DMark PCIe Benchmark)

CrystalDiskMark Default Benchmark (Benchmarks using PCIe link speed overclock)
CrystalDiskMark Peak Benchmark (Benchmarks using PCIe link speed overclock)

(Old benchmark with default PCIe Link Speed 100).

#379 RE: [OFFER] ASUS CrossHair V Formula Z MOD bios 2201 by boombastik 08.10.2020 14:25

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Zitat von Pill Monster im Beitrag #377
Zitat von boombastik im Beitrag #376
I am good at finding eratta (bugs) ! I think the last samsung drive that is combatible is the 830 model.


Did you see Bugzilla?

Maybe try posting on AMD Dev's forum (if you haven't already).......? Might get a better response from AMD than Samsung....

Just a suggestion. :)


I dont think there is a solution. This needs a silicon change for amd to fix it, and all AMD 900 chipset series are legacy now.

Your motherboard has also an ASMediaASM1061 controller there the Samsung ssd will work with ncq as intended.

#380 RE: [OFFER] ASUS CrossHair V Formula Z MOD bios 2201 by Darkeh 11.10.2020 15:30

First post here as well, and I'd like to thank Phoniex48 for bringing some more life into my old 2013 P.C.

My intentions for this post is that I wanna make sure that the numbers I am getting truly reflect my SSD's capabilities. I seriously don't believe the numbers I am receiving after seeing everyone else getting around ~1650s in read and write speed using Crystal Disk Mark.

I am also rather confused by the speed of my SATA Evo 860 SSD, it's advertised as 550Mb/s, and was as such, before I updated my bios to v14. Can an NVMe module really stretch it's performance to almost 6x without any significant degradation?

These are my results:
[Read]
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 3029.662 MB/s [ 2889.3 IOPS] < 2420.46 us>
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 3792.213 MB/s [ 3616.5 IOPS] < 275.83 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 1176.541 MB/s [ 287241.5 IOPS] < 1711.61 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 286.672 MB/s [ 69988.3 IOPS] < 14.05 us>

[Write]
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 3394.603 MB/s [ 3237.3 IOPS] < 2155.91 us>
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 3528.694 MB/s [ 3365.2 IOPS] < 296.31 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 864.404 MB/s [ 211036.1 IOPS] < 2341.85 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 196.003 MB/s [ 47852.3 IOPS] < 20.61 us>

I also ran a test in Samsung Magician (not sure if that would be credible to use for reference), however, it reports my read speed as 2083 Mb/s and my write speed as 2194 Mb/s. Strangely the IOPS read speed is at 52001 and write being at 32958. Now if that wasn't strange enough, I decided to disable NCQ on both my Microsoft and AMD SATA drivers (honestly forgot which one I am using) since I had seen an earlier post of a fellow who encountered errors and had the same disk as me. I wanted to save myself the headache of possibly getting CRC errors, even though I didn't have any to begin with after updating my bios.

Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 2753.125 MB/s [ 2625.6 IOPS] < 2663.34 us>
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 3371.126 MB/s [ 3215.0 IOPS] < 310.39 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 1175.957 MB/s [ 287098.9 IOPS] < 1706.08 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 285.821 MB/s [ 69780.5 IOPS] < 14.10 us>

[Write]
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 2847.673 MB/s [ 2715.8 IOPS] < 2569.67 us>
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 2890.531 MB/s [ 2756.6 IOPS] < 361.81 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 884.921 MB/s [ 216045.2 IOPS] < 2286.68 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 195.313 MB/s [ 47683.8 IOPS] < 20.68 us>

I am guessing that NCQ is actually not as beneficial in my case, as I lost quite a bit of read and write speed by removing it. But I am not sure, should I just keep it in case my drive gets any CRC errors?

#381 RE: [OFFER] ASUS CrossHair V Formula Z MOD bios 2201 by Phoenix48 11.10.2020 20:59

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@Darkeh

I admit those numbers seems off, and even more for a SATA drive. First, the NVMe module is not used at all by a SATA drive so the speed limit is the drive itself and the SATA III specifications and, second, a NVMe drive would be limited by the motherboard PCIe 2.0 speed. It is just physically impossible to go faster than that with this motherboard. It is an hardware limitation so this means that those numbers are just wrong and your real speed is not stretched at all. Unfortunately, i have no idea why your numbers are wrong and impossibly high. And i can't comment on the NCQ problem because i don't personnally have that problem and can not test it.

I hope someone else can help you further than me.

#382 RE: [OFFER] ASUS CrossHair V Formula Z MOD bios 2201 by MailmanMike 12.10.2020 06:35

I don't know about you but I eagerly look forward to updates though I'm sure we have neared the end.

#383 RE: [OFFER] ASUS CrossHair V Formula Z MOD bios 2201 by Darkeh 12.10.2020 06:58

I actually figured out that my SSD speed is actually closer to 493Mb/s, but Samsung’s RAPID mode caches everything to RAM then slowly onto the SSD. Sorry for the confusion!! I hope RAPID mode can work in conjunction to my soon-to-have Evo Plus 970 M.2. with x16 speeds.

#384 RE: [OFFER] ASUS CrossHair V Formula Z MOD bios 2201 by Phoenix48 19.10.2020 08:55

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Bios updated to v15

Changelog:

[Updated] - Intel UEFI x64 PCI-E gigabit driver v9.3.10 -----> v9.4.06



>ASUS-Crosshair-V-Formula-Z-2201 MOD v15 (2020-10-19)<

#385 RE: [OFFER] ASUS CrossHair V Formula Z MOD bios 2201 by MailmanMike 09.11.2020 04:03

Thank you for the update.

#386 RE: [OFFER] ASUS CrossHair V Formula Z MOD bios 2201 by MicheleVZ 07.12.2020 11:38

HI, my name's Michele
I tried your bios in my pc
while I selected your file in flash bios I get a bad message (security verification failed)
This is a problem that I can not solve without you.

#387 RE: [OFFER] ASUS CrossHair V Formula Z MOD bios 2201 by Phoenix48 07.12.2020 17:26

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@MicheleVZ

This is because this Bios can not be flashed from inside the Bios. You get this message because the Bios consider it a MOD and will not accept to flash it. The solution is to use the ASUS flashback feature in the ROG USB port behind the PC. You can find the instructions here.

#388 RE: [OFFER] ASUS CrossHair V Formula Z MOD bios 2201 by MailmanMike 20.12.2020 19:14

Has Samsung updated anything applicable to the Bios?

#389 RE: [OFFER] ASUS CrossHair V Formula Z MOD bios 2201 by Phoenix48 20.12.2020 21:02

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@MailmanMike

Short version: I verified just in case but no, there is nothing new.

Long detailed version: Samsung don't really produce any module usefull anyway. For precisions, there are 2 modules that can be usefull with installing a M.2 SSD and only one of them is needed depending on if the M.2 drive is NVMe or SATA.

1- The module named "NvmExpressDxe_4.ffs" is a mod to recognize NVMe at start up and enable NVMe boot. But the NVMe standard is not made by Samsung anyway. It is made by nvmexpress.org so we must wait for a new version of the NVMe standard AND that someone produce a new module based on it AND, probably needed, that someone modify that new module to render it usable for all of us. Needless to say, this doesn't happen very often.

2- The module named "SAMSUNG_M2_DXE" is used to enable AHCI on SATA M.2 SSD for them to be able to boot at startup and take the advantages of AHCI once booted. Yes, Samsung produced the original module but... It was not usable by all at all. It was not untill the support staff at ASRock modified the module that it became usable for all. This is the kind of thing that don't have many chances to repeat itself. So i doubt there will ever be a new update for that one.

#390 RE: [OFFER] ASUS CrossHair V Formula Z MOD bios 2201 by MailmanMike 20.12.2020 22:57

Thank you for the explanation.

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