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#931 RE: Intel RST/RSTe Drivers (newest: v14.6.0.1029 WHQL/v4.3.0.1198 WHQL) by rival 28.08.2015 11:31

Zitat von STR866 im Beitrag #930

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Installation of the Intel RST Software:

Don't install any Intel RST Software version on top of another one. If you have already an Intel RST Software running, uninstall it and reboot, before you install another RST Software version.
A proper function of the Intel RST Software requires the presence of .NET Framework v3.5.
Consequence: Before you start with the installation of the Intel RST Software, you should make sure, that Microsoft's .NET Framework 3.5 has been already installed (open the "Control Panel" > "Programs" > "Programs and Features" > "Turn Windows Features on or off"). The option ".NET Framework 3.5" has to be ckecked. After having turned this "Windows Feature" on, a reboot is required.
The Intel RST Software can be installed either by running the SetupRST.exe file as part of a complete "RST Drivers & Software Set" or by executing the RST_x32.msi (for a 32bit OS) or RST_x64.msi (for a 64bit OS). The latter option will install just the RST Software and no drivers.
After having finished the installation of the RST Software, you have to reboot.
Now you will see the "Intel(R) Rapid Storage Technology" within the Start Menu or as an "App" of your Windows OS.
Be aware, that some RST Services are automaticly running in the background (unless you disable them manually) and may drop your system performance.

Hello,
Just in case that post was directed at me, I did not have Intel RST Software running before, all I did was install the driver through Device Manager AFTER trying to install the .exe. Also, .net framework 3.5 has been installed. Finally this version of Intel RST does not have those filenames, only a setup.exe. I did actually read those instructions before doing anything.

Fernando, I am aware of your threads on modifying the option ROM of a BIOS (this motherboard uses Phoenix), do you think doing that would increase my chances of success? Thanks.

#932 RE: Intel RST/RSTe Drivers (newest: v14.6.0.1029 WHQL/v4.3.0.1198 WHQL) by Fernando 28.08.2015 12:58

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@ rival:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!

Zitat von rival im Beitrag #929
I'm wondering if you would give your opinion on a problem I am having with installing the Intel RST(e) AHCI/RAID Drivers & Software Set v11.7.4.1001 WHQL from your first page post (not the modified drivers). I have a Supermicro X7DBI+ motherboard that utilizes the Intel 5000 Series Chipset with the Intel Matrix Storage Manager option ROM v5.6.4.1002 ESB2.
The version and the development platform of the Intel MSM RAID ROM module, which is within your mainboard BIOS, doesn't match at all the Intel RST(e) driver and software you are trying to use.
Before I am going to give you any advice how you can try to solve your problem, I need the following informations:
1. Which DeviceID has the Intel SATA RAID Controller of your mainboard (right click onto it > "Properties" > "Details" > "Property" > "HardwareIDs")?
2. Which OS are you running?

Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)

#933 RE: Intel RST/RSTe Drivers (newest: v14.6.0.1029 WHQL/v4.3.0.1198 WHQL) by rival 28.08.2015 18:18

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #932
The version and the development platform of the Intel MSM RAID ROM module, which is within your mainboard BIOS, doesn't match at all the Intel RST(e) driver and software you are trying to use.
Before I am going to give you any advice how you can try to solve your problem, I need the following informations:
1. Which DeviceID has the Intel SATA RAID Controller of your mainboard (right click onto it > "Properties" > "Details" > "Property" > "HardwareIDs")?
2. Which OS are you running?
1. When I right-click on the entry for "Intel(R) Desktop/Workstation/Server Express Chipset SATA RAID Controller" under Storage Controllers, go to Properties, click on the Details tab, and then select "Hardware IDs" I see:
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2682&SUBSYS_B18115D9&REV_09
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2682&SUBSYS_B18115D9
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2682&CC_010400
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2682&CC_0104
2. I'm running Windows 2008 R2

I tried to install that driver because I interpreted the line under the entries as this version supporting 5-series chipsets (which it apparently does, the .sys driver at least), because ICH9M is older than the 5-series: "Latest/best RST(e) drivers of the v11 line:
>32bit Intel RST(e) AHCI/RAID Drivers v11.7.4.1001 WHQL< (>MIRROR<)
>64bit Intel RST(e) AHCI/RAID Drivers v11.7.4.1001 WHQL< (>MIRROR<)
>Intel RST(e) AHCI/RAID Drivers & Software Set v11.7.4.1001 WHQL< (>MIRROR<)
Note: These drivers are dated 03/05/2013 and suitable for AHCI systems from ICH9M up to 7-Series Chipsets and for RAID systems from ICH8R/M up except X79 running in RSTe RAID mode (DEV_2826)."

P.S. Windows Updates are now working, but I really do need the Control Center for email alerts and overall status of the RAID array. Thanks again.

#934 RE: Intel RST/RSTe Drivers (newest: v14.6.0.1029 WHQL/v4.3.0.1198 WHQL) by Fernando 28.08.2015 20:46

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@ rival:

Thanks for having answered my questions.
The DeviceID DEV_2682 of your on-board Intel SATA AHCI Cotroller verifies,
a) that your system has an old Intel ESB2 and not a much newer Intel ICH9M Southbridge and
b) that you have installed a driver, which doesn't fully support the Intel SATA RAID Controller of your system.

The latest Intel RAID Driver & Software Set, which natively will support your system, is the Intel MSM Set v8.9.8.1005 WHQL.
>Here< is the link to that Intel MSM Drivers & Software Set v8.9.8.1005 WHQL.

Good luck!

#935 RE: Intel RST/RSTe Drivers (newest: v14.6.0.1029 WHQL/v4.3.0.1198 WHQL) by rival 28.08.2015 21:33

Thank you very much for providing me with the Control Center version of this driver version, it is much appreciated. I have two further questions:
1. Since the driver itself for 11.7.4.1001 works (iaStorAC.inf and applicable files) - when I right click on Intel desktop/Workstation/Server Express Chipset SATA RAID Controller Windows tells me that "this device is working properly" - would it be a good idea for me to reinstall just the driver after installing the MSM Control Center and driver? Especially since using this 11.7.4.1001 driver makes the computer faster than using the original driver that Microsoft installed? Is this not the reason why you created those modified drivers that you added extra hardware signatures for (which I didn't need to use btw, Intel apparently added my hardware signature itself)?

2. Knowing what you know now about this motherboard, would it be possible and recommended to mod the BIOS by updating the option ROM with one of your Intel MSM RAID ROMs? I read your guide and it says it is not a big deal if you flash it wrong, you just can't use the RAID until you reflash the original BIOS, so I'm willing to take the risk. Also, I was a little unclear as to whether you had ever seen a MSM ROM replaced with an Intel RST ROM? Is this possible? So far I've run "cbrom32_198.exe x7dbi1.rom /D" in a command prompt, went to work, and came back hours later to see the program using 100% of one of my cores and not seeing any output besides "cbrom 1.98 [08/27/08] (C) Phoenix Technologies 2001-2008. FYI, the last version of BIOS for my board is from 2011 so I don't think it's SOOO old...

Thanks again for your time and thoughts.

EDIT by Fernando: Unneeded fully quoted text removed (to save space)

#936 RE: Intel RST/RSTe Drivers (newest: v14.6.0.1029 WHQL/v4.3.0.1198 WHQL) by Fernando 28.08.2015 22:00

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Zitat von rival im Beitrag #935
1. Since the driver itself for 11.7.4.1001 works (iaStorAC.inf and applicable files) - when I right click on Intel desktop/Workstation/Server Express Chipset SATA RAID Controller Windows tells me that "this device is working properly" - would it be a good idea for me to reinstall just the driver after installing the MSM Control Center and driver?
No, that would not be a good idea.
You got the Intel RST(e) driver working by forcing the installation and simulating to have a DEV_2822 Intel SATA Controller, but you haven't.
Futhermore the RAID driver and the Intel Console Software have to belong to the same development string and should have the same version.
My advice: install the complete Intel MSM v8.9.8.1005 Drivers & Software Set. Then you will get bozj parts (driver and software) installed.

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2. Knowing what you know now about this motherboard, would it be possible and recommended to mod the BIOS by updating the option ROM with one of your Intel MSM RAID ROMs?

No, all Intel RAID ROM versions from v8.x.x.xxxx up, which I am offering, do only support modern DEV_2822 Intel RAID Controllers, but not an old DEV_2682 Intel MSM ESB2 SATA RAID Controller like yours. Not a single Intel RST RAID ROM will properly work with your system.

#937 RE: Intel RST/RSTe Drivers (newest: v14.6.0.1029 WHQL/v4.3.0.1198 WHQL) by iakoboss7 31.08.2015 22:36

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hello, thank you for your work for starters :)


i am on windows 10 pro x64 and my motherboard is https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P5QD_Turbo/ (limited to sata 2) and my ssd is samsung 840 pro 128gb

i run some tests using different "drivers"

1st is microsoft stock



2nd intel chipset ones (not rst) (link here cause i dont remember where i found it, its the latest for my old motherboard! https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz9-ok...NTE1LXgtNDZJNk0 )



3rd its with "Intel RST drivers v11.2.0.1006 WHQL dated 05/30/2012"



(and one more after one extra restart)




after looking at these what is your opinion? also i see that 4k-64thrd on the ms and intel drivers (not rst) is going "crazy" except one time... but on the RST drivers not...
should i update to the newer "Intel RST(e) v11.7.4.1001 WHQL" on my system? will it perform better or the same like the 11.2? or just behave "better" in general? (note that i DONT want to use the rapid storage program that starts with windows if possible).

ps. the non as ssd ones are from the samsung magician performance test

#938 RE: Intel RST/RSTe Drivers (newest: v14.6.0.1029 WHQL/v4.3.0.1198 WHQL) by Fernando 31.08.2015 23:39

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@ iakoboss7:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum and thanks for the benchmark results.

Zitat von iakoboss7 im Beitrag #937
i run some tests using different "drivers"
1st is microsoft stock
The results are not bad.

Zitat
2nd intel chipset ones (not rst) (link here cause i dont remember where i found it, its the latest for my old motherboard!

No, your Intel SATA AHCI Controller has used the exact same driver as above (the generic MS AHCI driver). This explains, why you got rather similar benchmark scores.
By the way: You can see the driver name "storahci.sys" within the AS_SSD GUI.

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3rd its with "Intel RST drivers v11.2.0.1006 WHQL dated 05/30/2012"

The previous results, when you ran the MS AHCI driver named STORAHCI.SYS, were better.

Zitat
should i update to the newer "Intel RST(e) v11.7.4.1001 WHQL" on my system? will it perform better or the same like the 11.2? or just behave "better" in general?

I cannot answer these questions. You have to find out yourself, which is the "best" AHCI driver for your special system. Furthermore you should consider, that the benchmark results are not the only criterion, if a user is searching for the "best" driver for his special system. The stability of the system is very important too.

Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)

#939 RE: Intel RST/RSTe Drivers (newest: v14.6.0.1029 WHQL/v4.3.0.1198 WHQL) by iakoboss7 31.08.2015 23:51

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can you maybe explain to me why the WRITE 4k-64thrd gets that crazy number that goes above sata 2 specs? and why this doesnt happen with the 11.2?

from windows 10 perspective (not hardware) what do you think will be a better match? 11.2 or 11.7.4

thank you.

#940 RE: Intel RST/RSTe Drivers (newest: v14.6.0.1029 WHQL/v4.3.0.1198 WHQL) by Fernando 01.09.2015 00:23

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Zitat von iakoboss7 im Beitrag #939
can you maybe explain to me why the WRITE 4k-64thrd gets that crazy number that goes above sata 2 specs? and why this doesnt happen with the 11.2?
According to my own experience the generic MS AHCI driver is (sometimes) very performant, but not very stable. Furthermore you should consider, that the benchmark results are not always realistic.

Zitat
from windows 10 perspective (not hardware) what do you think will be a better match? 11.2 or 11.7.4.

I don't know, which one of them will be the better AHCI driver for your ICH10R Southbridge system.

#941 RE: Intel RST/RSTe Drivers (newest: v14.6.0.1029 WHQL/v4.3.0.1198 WHQL) by iakoboss7 01.09.2015 01:39

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i tried them in the end, the results where the worst ever (by huge margins), reverted back to the "2nd"

thanks for your help though :)

#942 RE: Intel RST/RSTe Drivers (newest: v14.6.0.1029 WHQL/v4.3.0.1198 WHQL) by g3 06.09.2015 02:08

Hi Fernando,
You mention in Intel RST(e) Drivers from v11.5 up and their RST(e) Software about drivers should closely match orom version development string 11.6.0.1702.
Before reading your comments I installed the Dell update for my Intel HM77 chipset sata raid to 12.8.2.1000 from 11.7.4.1001 without uninstalling it first.
I do have the orom version 11.6.0.1702.
Everything seems to work fine, I am using AHCI with msata ssd Samsung 850 evo pro 250gb as my boot drive and a Hitachi 1tb storage drive.
Do you think I will have problems with this newer IRST version now with ACHI or if I ever switch to Raid?

Should I leave it alone, roll back to original 11.7.4.1001 version or update to newest 14.x.x.xxxx version?
Should I go back and uninstall the IRST software then reinstall?

Thanks for all your great information here, g3

#943 RE: Intel RST/RSTe Drivers (newest: v14.6.0.1029 WHQL/v4.3.0.1198 WHQL) by Fernando 06.09.2015 10:28

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@ g3:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!

Zitat von g3 im Beitrag #942
Do you think I will have problems with this newer IRST version now with ACHI or if I ever switch to Raid?
It depends on what you mean with "IRST version". Is it the version of the Intel RST RAID ROM, which is within the BIOS or the version of the currently runnng Intel RST Software?
1. Inttel RAID ROM:
The version of the Intel RAID ROM doesn't matter at all as long as you don't switch the SATA mode of your on-board Intel SATA mode to "RAID" and even if you do that, you will not run into any severe problem.
2. Intel RST Software
It was not a good idea to install another version of the Intel RST Software on top of another one, that means without having uninstalled the previously used version before (has to be done from within the Control Panel's "Add/remove Programs" option and usually will not touch the currently running Intel RST/RST(e) driver).

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Should I leave it alone, roll back to original 11.7.4.1001 version or update to newest 14.x.x.xxxx version?

This is what I recommend to do:

  • Uninstall the "Intel(R) Rapid Storage Technology" Software from within the Control Panel, reboot and then either reinstall the currently used Intel RST Drivers+Software Set or another suitable one (example: v13.1.0.1058 WHQL, which is the latest, which fully supports your Intel 7-Series Chiset AHCI system).
  • I do not recommend to install any Intel RST(e) Drivers+Software Set v14.x.x.xxxx, because your Intel 7-Series AHCI system may not be fully supported.
  • Don't touch the BIOS unless you really are going to switch to an Intel RAID system.

Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)

#944 RE: Intel RST/RSTe Drivers (newest: v14.6.0.1029 WHQL/v4.3.0.1198 WHQL) by g3 07.09.2015 03:31

Fernando, thank you so much for your help.
you asked what I meant by "IRST version", this was update 12.8.2.1000 from Dell labeled
Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver Serial-ATA_Driver_69XN6_WN_12.8.2.1000_A04.EXE Release date 17 Dec 2013.

It updated the Intel Rapid Storage Technology Drivers and software from 11.7.4.1001 to 12.8.2.1000.
This is the update I installed without uninstalling the Intel Rapid Storage Technology software first.
The raid option rom (ctrl-I) Intel Rapid Storage Technology version 11.6.0.1702 did not change when I updated the IRST software.

I have made images of my OS so I can go back to before I updated the IRST software.
My plan now is to reinstall original OS image then I will uninstall IRST first, then install IRST v13.1.0.1058 WHQL. What about these newer versions v13.2.4.1000 and v13.6.0.1002 ?
Does this sound good or should I just uninstall and reinstall without bringing back the original OS image?

Is it alright to use the up to date Intel IRST software and drivers instead of the Dell OEM not up to date software and drivers? How do you feel about that?
12.8.2.1000 is the most up to date from Dell.

You also said the RAID Rom doesn't matter unless I want to use the RAID option.
If in the future I wanted to use the RAID option what IRST software and drivers should I use with the current Intel Option Rom 11.6.0.1702?
Remember I can go back with my OS images.

Thanks again for your help, g3

Dell XPS 15 L521x, Windows 7 Home edition premium, Samsung SSD 850 evo pro (boot) and 1tb Hitachi HD in ACHI mode

#945 RE: Intel RST/RSTe Drivers (newest: v14.6.0.1029 WHQL/v4.3.0.1198 WHQL) by Fernando 07.09.2015 09:12

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@ g3:
Why do you want to (re)install the Intel RST Software at all?
You don't have a real benefit from the IRST Software, because you are running your Intel SATA ports in AHCI mode. Without the IRST Software you will not have any problem, when you install an Intel RST driver version on top of another one.

This is what I recommend to do:
1. Uninstall the IRST Software.
2. Reboot.
3. Install the Intel RST(e) driver v13.1.0.1058 WHQL manually from within the Device Manager.

Zitat
What about these newer versions v13.2.4.1000 and v13.6.0.1002 ?

They both natively do not support your Intel 7-Series Chipset SATA AHCI Controller.

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