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#541 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7-10 by kakomerengue
15.02.2018 05:24
Hi Fernando, I just bought a crucial ssd mx500 and installed it in an XFX 9300-7AS9 mother board with 1.0B25 Bios.
I used an application called SiSoftware Sandra and it shows my disk working on SATA 1.5 speed.
I read in the specifications of the motherboard that the ports were SATA 3.0
What can you suggest?
Thanks in Advance
#542 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7-10 by Fernando
15.02.2018 09:54
@kakomerengue:
Welcome to the Win-RAID Forum!
According to >this< page your mainboard has 6 SATA ports and they all should support 3.0 Gb/s.
Which OS and which SATA driver are you using?
Which DeviceID has your on-board nForce Serial ATA Controller?
Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)
#543 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7-10 by kakomerengue
15.02.2018 13:25
Thanks for your reply Fernando:
Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #542
Which OS and which SATA driver are you using?
I'm using Windows 10 64Bits
I tried to install some Nvidia sata ide and raid drivers but Device manager shows Microsoft Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller 10.0.16299.98 from 21/6/2006
Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #542
Which DeviceID has your on-board nForce Serial ATA Controller?
¿How can I see this?
Device Manager in section Drives SSD Mx500 (Channel 0) properties -> details -> hardware id, shows:
IDE\DiskCT250MX500SSD1__________________________M3CR010_
IDE\CT250MX500SSD1__________________________M3CR010_
IDE\DiskCT250MX500SSD1__________________________
CT250MX500SSD1__________________________M3CR010_
GenDisk
#544 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7-10 by Fernando
15.02.2018 13:41
Zitat von kakomerengue im Beitrag #543
Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #542
Which DeviceID has your on-board nForce Serial ATA Controller?
¿How can I see this?
The SATA Controllers are listed either within the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" or "Storage Controllers" section of the Device Manager.
Do a right-click onto the listed devices with the word "Controller" within it and choose the options "Property" > "Details" > "Property" > "HardwareIDs".
You can detect the NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller by the Vendor ID
VEN_10DE.
#545 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7-10 by kakomerengue
16.02.2018 02:59
Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #544
he SATA Controllers are listed either within the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" or "Storage Controllers" section of the Device Manager.Do a right-click onto the listed devices with the word "Controller" within it and choose the options "Property" > "Details" > "Property" > "HardwareIDs".You can detect the NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller by the Vendor ID VEN_10DE.
Ok, yes, this is the info in Hardware ID
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0AB4&SUBSYS_75381462&REV_B1
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0AB4&SUBSYS_75381462
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0AB4&CC_010185
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0AB4&CC_0101
Can I uninstall this drivers and set it with Standard Ide Controllers?
#546 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7-10 by Fernando
16.02.2018 09:40
@kakomerengue:
Thanks for the HardwareIDs, which verify, that your on-board NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller is running in IDE mode.
Zitat von kakomerengue im Beitrag #545
Can I uninstall this drivers and set it with Standard Ide Controllers?
Don't uninstall, just replace the driver.
Right-click onto the Controller and choose the options "Update driver software" > "Browse my computer..." > "Let me pick...".
Make sure, that the option "Show compatible devices" is checked. Now choose the listed "Standard Dual-Channel PCI IDE Controller".
That's it!
#547 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7-10 by kakomerengue
17.02.2018 19:46
Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #546
Don't uninstall, just replace the driver.
Thank you very much, one last question:
Do you recommend not using the AHCI option in the Bios with the Nvidia 730i chipset?
And if I wanted to use it, would I have to do a clean installation of windows right?
EDIT by Fernando: Unneeded part of the fully quoted post removed (to save space)
#548 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7-10 by Fernando
17.02.2018 21:49
Zitat von kakomerengue im Beitrag #547
Do you recommend not using the AHCI option in the Bios with the Nvidia 730i chipset?
It depends on the OS you are running. If it should be Win10, I would try it (if I were you), but I do not recommend to install any NVIDIA nForce AHCI driver, because the Win10 in-box driver is much better.
Zitat von kakomerengue im Beitrag #547
And if I wanted to use it, would I have to do a clean installation of windows right?
Not absolutely, but the procedure is risky. You have to force the installation of the "wrong" AHCI driver (since your nForce SATA Controller is still running in IDE mode), then - while rebooting - immediately to enter the BIOS and to set the NVIDIA nForce SATA Controller to "AHCI".
#549 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7-10 by kakomerengue
24.02.2018 23:25
Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #548
Not absolutely, but the procedure is risky. You have to force the installation of the "wrong" AHCI driver (since your nForce SATA Controller is still running in IDE mode), then - while rebooting - immediately to enter the BIOS and to set the NVIDIA nForce SATA Controller to "AHCI".
Hi Fernando, I updated the drivers to Standard SATA AHCI controllers on Windows 10 Pro 1709 and restart, changed the Bios option to AHCI but Windows doesn't start.
So I made a clean install of the same version of Windows with BIOS option in AHCI, the installation process runs, but Windows doesn't start if BIOS is configure in AHCI option.
I'm doing something wrong?
Thanks in advance.
#550 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7-10 by Fernando
25.02.2018 00:31
Zitat von kakomerengue im Beitrag #549
So I made a clean install of the same version of Windows with BIOS option in AHCI, the installation process runs, but Windows doesn't start if BIOS is configure in AHCI option.
Which OS did you install and which are the exact options in the BIOS regarding the AHCI mode of the onboard NVIDIA nForce SATA Controller?
The problem may be caused by the fact, that the AHCI mode of the NVIDIA nForce SATA Controller is not 100% conform to the AHCI standard protocol.
#551 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7-10 by kakomerengue
25.02.2018 02:32
Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #550
Which OS did you install and which are the exact options in the BIOS regarding the AHCI mode of the onboard NVIDIA nForce SATA Controller?
Windows 10 Pro 1709
Intengrated peripherals > On-Chip ATA devices > On-Chip SATA controller: "Enabled" > RAID Mode: "AHCI"
¿Do you think that >
this< procedure works?
One more time, Thanks in advance, You are very kind.
#552 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7-10 by Fernando
25.02.2018 19:57
@kakomerengue:
Thanks for having answered my questions.
Zitat von kakomerengue im Beitrag #551
¿Do you think that >this< procedure works?
I don't know it, but it is worth to try it.
Good luck!
#553 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7-10 by kakomerengue
25.02.2018 21:10
Zitat von kakomerengue im Beitrag #551
¿Do you think that >this< procedure works?
Ok, it didn't work for me, I think it's time to give up
This is the benchmarks with Standard Ide Controllers
Thank you so much.
#554 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7-10 by Fernando
25.02.2018 21:30
@kakomerengue:
I can totally understand your frustration.
The Company NVIDIA earns a lot of money with GeForce cards, but do not care about the nForce Chipsets, whose development they stopped in 2009/2010. It would be very easy for them to deliver newer/better nForce chipset drivers, which work together with modern MS Operating Systems like Win10, but they don't do it.
Were you ever been able to run your system drive in AHCI mode? If yes, with which Operating System?
#555 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7-10 by swagler
26.02.2018 17:29
Fernando- I just got a LSI 9211-4i PCIe 4-Lane SATA card, waiting on breakout cables. I'm going to use LSI Controller to solely drive SSD. I'm pondering updating Win7 x64 MS Standard IDE Drivers to latest Nvidia non-ACHI Drivers to drive WD 2TB HDD and DVD Burner only. But looking at kakomerengue posts and your last comment; Will any of your Nvidia SATA-2 Drivers produce better performance on WD HDD than MS Standard IDE-150 ?
Asus A8N-SLI Premium
Chipset: nVidia nForce4 (Crush CK8-04) + CK8-04 MCP
Super-IO/LPC Chip: ITE IT8712F, Rev I
