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#31 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 by Fernando 10.01.2014 13:24

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@ nagyfej:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!

If you have troubles with the nForce SATA driver, why don't you just use the Win7Vista on-board SATA driver named pciide.sys?
For the other nForce4 chipset devices you can take my "Non-AHCI nForce Performance Pack".

Regards
Fernando

#32 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 by Hacsahu 07.02.2014 12:56

Hello Fernando,

I only want to ask which driver pack you recommend for my laptop: ASUS A6M: nforce430(MCP51/C51MV), Geforce Go 6100. Unfortunately the laptop have only PATA interface inside. Now I'm using Win7 with drivers I found on Nvidia or offered through windows update. The OS run quite good. 1. What do you think improving with a PATA SSD? 2. Although I did't find exact answers for expansion my RAMs (now i have 2x1gb 667Mhz), do you know if it's possible to expand it to 4 GB?

Regards,
Csaba

#33 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 by Fernando 07.02.2014 13:17

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@ Hacsahu:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!

Zitat von Hacsahu im Beitrag #32
Unfortunately the laptop have only PATA interface inside. Now I'm using Win7 with drivers I found on Nvidia or offered through windows update. The OS run quite good.
Then I would not change anything.

Zitat von Hacsahu
1. What do you think improving with a PATA SSD?

The purchase of a P-ATA SSD is not a good idea at all, because you will not be able to use it after an upgrade of your system. You should think about an SSD, when you have a more actual AHCI capable laptop.

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2. Although I did't find exact answers for expansion my RAMs (now i have 2x1gb 667Mhz), do you know if it's possible to expand it to 4 GB?

Since this depends on the special features of your laptop, you should look into its manual or ask the manufacturer.

Regards
Fernando

#34 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 by Rothwang 08.02.2014 19:24

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You saved me! About two years ago I installed Windows 7 64 on a RAID mounted on a DFI Lanparty NF4 Ultra-D modded to SLI, and all went well, as if it were the most natural thing in the world. Do not ask me how because I do not remember.
Recently I had some problems with the OS and I again tried to run the exact successful operation made two years ago, but there was no chance to do it again! One thing inexplicable! I wandered for about three months on the forums all over the world, and finally I came to you, finding the ONLY working solution!
Thank you Fernando!

#35 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 by Fernando 08.02.2014 22:32

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@ Rothwang:

Welcome at Win-RAID Forum and thanks for your feedback!

Regards
Fernando

#36 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 by wrxj 09.02.2014 16:15

Hello, I've downloaded "Special MCP65-67 nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7" since I have 630a chipset but the only driver I can update is Network controller driver. Does this mean that Win7 has newer/better drivers than those included in the package or am I doing something wrong?
On Windows 8.1 I can only update Network controller driver as well.
My MoBo is Asus M2N-CM DVI.
Or do I need to update chipset/smbus driver manually via Device manager?
Here's mine SATA controller hwid, for example: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0550
Can't find any dev_0550 in IDE drivers folder in the driverpack.

#37 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 by Fernando 09.02.2014 22:59

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@ wrxj:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!

Zitat von wrxj im Beitrag #36
Hello, I've downloaded "Special MCP65-67 nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7" since I have 630a chipset but the only driver I can update is Network controller driver. Does this mean that Win7 has newer/better drivers than those included in the package or am I doing something wrong?
Win7 and Win8 have better or newer drivers than the old NVIDIA nForce driverpacks.

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Or do I need to update chipset/smbus driver manually via Device manager?

As long as you don't see any yellow mark or a missing driver, I don't recommend to change anything regarding the NVIDIA nForce chipset drivers.

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Here's mine SATA controller hwid, for example: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0550
Can't find any dev_0550 in IDE drivers folder in the driverpack.

Reason: There is no nForce SATA driver for this IDE mode (non-AHCI) driver available. The OS will use the generic MS IDE driver named PCIIDE.SYS.

Regards
Fernando

#38 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 by tfboy 10.02.2014 11:07

Hi Fernando and all,
first, thanks for this forum, it's great to see some decent, in-depth support for those old nVidia chipsets...
I have a strange issue on an ASUS M2N68-AM motherboard.
I'm running WS2008R2 / W7 64-bit and the OS drive is an old IDE drive.
However, I want to create a RAID0 array on the SATA ports using two 128GB SSD drives.
I have done that: set the SATA mode to RAID and created it in MediaShield part of the BIOS. It correctly reports a single 256GB RAID0 striped array.
However, once in the OS, the two drives are listed individually. The nforce RAID controller driver is installed and working correctly, however, I never get to see a single logical drive of 256GB, but two M4 SSD drives of 128GB.


Now I seem to recall very vaguely that there was an issue with RAID arrays that are not part of the boot drive. Is that true and the cause of my issue?
I've tried several different drivers, but I think the problem is elsewhere.

Incidentally, I did follow the directions in this thread and installed the RAIDTOOL drivers, but like others have commented: it only gives me some SMART windows and nothing with the RAID. So if the RAID is exclusively managed at the BIOS / MediaShield section before the OS boots, is there a work around or am I stuck and will not be able to get the drive correctly identieid in Windows?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

#39 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 by Fernando 10.02.2014 17:46

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@ tfboy:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!

Zitat von tfboy im Beitrag #38
So if the RAID is exclusively managed at the BIOS / MediaShield section before the OS boots, is there a work around or am I stuck and will not be able to get the drive correctly identieid in Windows?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
I will think about the reason for your problem.
Why did you create a RAID0 array outside the system/boot drive and why didn't you install the OS onto one of the SSD's?

Regards
Fernado

#40 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 by Unholy 10.02.2014 18:55

Hello Mr. Fernando , i got a question about your drivers .i have a HD3850 AGP GPU and I also got an AM2NF3-VSTA Mobo and it got nfroce3 250 chipset , and on Win vista / 7/ 8 32-Bit 64-Bit , i have driver combatibility issues because nvidia didn't released Gart driver , and i can't install my AMD catalyst control center . Could your drivers pack solve my problem?

#41 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 by tfboy 10.02.2014 20:59

Hi Fernando,
I'm actually using this motherboard as a small iSCSI target for a VMware infrastructure, and wanted to keep the OS drive (IDE) totally seperate from the iSCSI volume (RAID0 on the SSDs).
I could live without RAID0 through the MediaShield, but I'd end up with two 128GB volumes instead of one 256GB volume.

Of course, I could use Windows software RAID and have a dynamic volume striped across both disks, but I was worried that it could use a lot more CPU than the "hardware" RAID on the motherboard.

Now if, from your experience, the Mediaquest RAID 0 is no faster / consumes no less CPU than a OS-based RAID via dynamic disks, then I can abandon the nVidia RAID feature and just use the Windows one.

#42 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 by Fernando 10.02.2014 23:44

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@ Unholy:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!

Zitat von Unholy im Beitrag #40
i have a HD3850 AGP GPU and I also got an AM2NF3-VSTA Mobo and it got nfroce3 250 chipset , and on Win vista / 7/ 8 32-Bit 64-Bit , i have driver combatibility issues because nvidia didn't released Gart driver , and i can't install my AMD catalyst control center . Could your drivers pack solve my problem?
No, the "Special nForce2-4 LEGACY Driverpacks", which I am offering for Win7Vista, do not contain any Gart driver, because NVIDIA has never published any Gart driver for Vista, Win7 and Win8.
These are the options for you:
  • a) Try to manually install the NVIDIA nForce Gart driver, which has been designed for XP, from within the Device Manager (the installation has to be forced by hitting the "Have Disk" button). You can find my "Special nForce LEGACY Remix Driverpacks for XP 32bit/64bit" within the start post of >this< thread.
  • b) Try a NVIDIA AGP graphics card (I have read somewhere, that they may work without a Gart driver).
  • c) buy a newer motherboard without a NVIDIA nForce chipset.

Regards
Fernando


@ tfboy:
It seems to me, that the OS is not able to see your nForce RAID array, because it may have installed the wrong SATA driver (the generic MS IDE driver instead of the NVIDIA nForce SATA one.
Please check the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" section of the Device Manager for a device named "Standard PCI IDE Controller" or similar. Then do a right click onto it and look for the "Drivers" and "Driver Details". What do you see there?

#43 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 by tfboy 11.02.2014 00:18

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #42
@ tfboy:
It seems to me, that the OS is not able to see your nForce RAID array, because it may have installed the wrong SATA driver (the generic MS IDE driver instead of the NVIDIA nForce SATA one.
Please check the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" section of the Device Manager for a device named "Standard PCI IDE Controller" or similar. Then do a right click onto it and look for the "Drivers" and "Driver Details". What do you see there?


There are two "Standard Dual Channel PCE IDE Controller" entries, but I'm pretty sure they're for the IDE controller my Maxtor OS boot drive is hanging off. The driver is the Microsoft one dating to 21/06/2006 version 6.1.7601.17514.

There are also four other entries for the ATA Channels: two for "ATA Channel 0" and two for "ATA Chanel 1" (one for Ultra DMA 6 and one for Ultra DMA 5).



The NVIDIA nForce RAID Controller is dated 06/08/2010 and is driver version 10.6.0.19.
Ignore the StarPort entry, that's for the iSCSI stuff.

Any further ideas?

Thanks :)

#44 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 by Fernando 11.02.2014 00:27

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Zitat von tfboy im Beitrag #43
Any further ideas?
Please check the HardwareIDs of both listed "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controllers" (right click onto it > "Properties" > "Details" > "Property" > "HardwareIDs".
I suspect, that one of them is the NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller.

#45 RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 by tfboy 11.02.2014 01:39

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #44
Zitat von tfboy im Beitrag #43
Any further ideas?
Please check the HardwareIDs of both listed "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controllers" (right click onto it > "Properties" > "Details" > "Property" > "HardwareIDs".
I suspect, that one of them is the NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller.


Your hunch was right
Although the first time, I did it the wrong way round and of course everything was fine until I rebooted when I would systematically get a BSOD. Rebooted in last known good config and did the other and it's now OK.
It did strike me strange how it was picked up as UDMA-5 and UDMA-6 when the Maxtor drive runs at UDMA-6 speeds. Went into the BIOS and noticed that the SSDs were picked up as UDMA-5 devices, so that confirmed the tieing up with the driver.

I now need to do some testing to see if performance using the nVidia RAID is better than a Windows striped dynamic volume: initial testing on the nVidia one shows relatively high CPU usage, so might not be worth it after all.

In the meantime, a bit thank you and a virtual coffee is on its way to you.
Danke!

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