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#751 | Asus P8P67 Sandybridge support datum

Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:59 am

Hi Fernando,

Thanks for all your hardwork, and posting this up for everyone! So I have a few questions, I understand that this mod will add the UEFI drivers to allow the BIOS to boot form the NVME drive. I have 2 P3700 Intel's I only have 1 PCI-E slot free to use 1 of the 2 I have.

I've tried adding the card to my machine but I'm unable to post and see any video. I do not believe this hack resolves this correct? If I can't even post with the drive inserted into my secondary PCIE slot that simply means my hardware cannot recognize the device? Or do I have this all wrong? By adding in this hack, it will allow my hardware to detect AND boot from to my NVME?

A second question is I keep getting "file size exceeds the volume size" I saw somewhere in other posts that just means that I will have to remove some other modules to free up some space. Can you recommend any modules that I can remove without bricking my device. I was thinking the TCG commands which are used for the TPM which I'll never use anyways on my desktop.

I've attached the report, any help is appreciated!

My current System:Mainboard: Z77A-G41 (ASUS P8P67 now dead), CPU: Intel i7 2600K @ 4.8ghz, Disks: 512 GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD + 2 730 Intel SSD + Intel P3500 NVME, Graphics: EVGA ACX SC 780 GTX, RAM: 4x2 GB G.Skill Trident DDR3-16000 @ 2000 Mhz, OS: Windows 10 Pro x64

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#752 | RE: Asus P8P67 Sandybridge support datum

Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:46 am

@zazzn:
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Zitat von zazzn im Beitrag #749
I have 2 P3700 Intel's I only have 1 PCI-E slot free to use 1 of the 2 I have.

If so, why did you buy 2 Intel PCIe SSDs?

Zitat
I've tried adding the card to my machine but I'm unable to post and see any video. I do not believe this hack resolves this correct?

Yes, this problem will not been solved by inserting the NVMe BIOS module. I suspect that your discrete graphics card uses too many PCI lanes.
To find that out I recommend to temporarily disable resp. to remove the discrete graphics card and to use the iGPU of the processor instead.

Zitat
A second question is I keep getting "file size exceeds the volume size" I saw somewhere in other posts that just means that I will have to remove some other modules to free up some space. Can you recommend any modules that I can remove without bricking my device.

Since you obviously are running the on-board Intel SATA Controller in AHCI mode, I recommend to remove the Intel EFI RAID module named "SataDriver" and to save the altered BIOS module before you try to insert the NVMe BIOS module.

Good luck!
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#753 | RE: Asus P8P67 Sandybridge support datum

Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:26 pm

Hi Fernando,

Thanks for the warm welcome! ;)

I actually didn't buy the PCIe drives, I work in the encryption field and these are sample drives that i'm "long term testing" ;)

Regarding the PCIE lanes, I suspected the same as well, and pulled out the Video Card and installed a cheap one found in one of my spare Dell machines, with no more luck either. Since the motherboard does not have a video port on the back of the board, there is no ability to use the onbaord video that would be in the CPU.

I don't see why the machine will not post with a p3700 installed, I'm guessing it just has to be a compatibility thing. The only other machine that has a capable PCIe slot is my server, but it only has one PCIe slot and my raid controller is installed there :(

I guess I'll have no choice but to upgrade to a Skylake if I want these drives to work. Makes me sad.

My current System:Mainboard: Z77A-G41 (ASUS P8P67 now dead), CPU: Intel i7 2600K @ 4.8ghz, Disks: 512 GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD + 2 730 Intel SSD + Intel P3500 NVME, Graphics: EVGA ACX SC 780 GTX, RAM: 4x2 GB G.Skill Trident DDR3-16000 @ 2000 Mhz, OS: Windows 10 Pro x64

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#754 | RE: Asus P8P67 Sandybridge support datum

Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:15 pm

Zitat von zazzn im Beitrag #751
I don't see why the machine will not post with a p3700 installed, I'm guessing it just has to be a compatibility thing.

I agree with you. "Enterprise Storage" NNMe SSDs like the P3700 have not been designed by intel for being used with a P67 consumer desktop system. Maybe the SSD in combination with the graphics card needs more power than your P67 system can give.
You may get better results with Intel's 750 PCIe SSD.

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#755 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for Intel Chipset systems from 6-Series up datum

Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:09 pm (Last edited: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:27 pm)

Hello everyone.

I've gone through 10+ pages on this subforum and i couldn't find the solution for my problem.

Is it possible at all to run nvme SSDs on my Asus H87-Pro motherboard and maybe even use it as boot drive? It doesn't have m.2 slot but i was thinking about some m.2 to PCIe adapter.

Thank in advance!

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#756 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for Intel Chipset systems from 6-Series up datum

Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:32 pm

@Cho Bahn:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!

Zitat von Cho Bahn im Beitrag #753
I've gone through 10+ pages on this subforum and i couldn't find the solution for my problem.

All the required informations are layed down within the start post. There was no need to read the posts of 10 or more pages.

Zitat
Is it possible at all to run nvme SSDs on my Asus H87-Pro motherboard and maybe even use it as boot drive?

Yes, I am very confident, that it is possible.

Zitat
It doesn't have m.2 slot but i was thinking about some m.2 to PCIe adapter.

Yes, this is what you will additionally need.

Good luck!
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#757 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for Intel Chipset systems from 6-Series up datum

Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:47 pm

Oh wow, i can't believe i missed the original post. Impressive info there, i even have Asus motherbaord for which you have included a tutorial how to flash it.

I might even try this whole thing, hopefully i won't do something stupid :D

Thanks a lot mate!

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#758 | RE: Lenovo D30 (C602-based board) datum

Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:06 am (Last edited: Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:28 am)

Thanks for the reply Fernando.. I've taken loads of BIOS screenshots and put the ones that I think are relevant here:
imgur album
First image shows the F12 boot selection options when I have the USB win10 install on it. This one I prepared with Rufus with the GPT UEFI option
Second image shows F12 boot selection when the USB is removed (after install) and I've removed other options like PXE etc as u can see it doesn't see anything.

First shows the no OS error message. Is this type of error and font a UEFI BIOS one? It looks a lot different to the regular font/resolution/message I used to see (the No Operating System Found etc one)
Next is the BIOS south bridge menu.. prop not relevant?

After that is the BIOS Startup menu - has CSM options, and UEFI Boot options.

Lenovo D30 board (BIOS A1KT57A4), 2 x Xeon 2670, 64GB RAM

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#759 | RE: Lenovo D30 (C602-based board) datum

Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:42 am

Zitat von daynomate im Beitrag #756
First image shows the F12 boot selection options when I have the USB win10 install on it. This one I prepared with Rufus with the GPT UEFI option

This seems to be ok.

Zitat
Second image shows F12 boot selection when the USB is removed (after install)

Does "after install" mean, that you were able to get the OS installed onto the NVMe supporting SSD?
If yes, this would verify, that the SSD is bootable (the OS installation requires several reboots). Maybe the hidden partition with the boot sector has been created by mistake outside the SSD.

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#760 | RE: Lenovo D30 (C602-based board) datum

Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:22 am (Last edited: Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:33 am)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #757
Does "after install" mean, that you were able to get the OS installed onto the NVMe supporting SSD?
If yes, this would verify, that the SSD is bootable (the OS installation requires several reboots). Maybe the hidden partition with the boot sector has been created by mistake outside the SSD.

When I say install I just mean the first part (before the first reboot). It recognises the drive fine and seems to create all the necessary partitions (heaps for some reason)
I see the activity light on the 950 Pro as the machine goes through initial post phase so I know it's doing something.

Alternatively what is the CSM option for the 950 Pro? Is that a way of booting from the 950 without UEFI?

EDIT by Fernando: Unneeded part of the fully quoted text removed (to save space)

Lenovo D30 board (BIOS A1KT57A4), 2 x Xeon 2670, 64GB RAM

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#761 | RE: Lenovo D30 (C602-based board) datum

Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:08 pm (Last edited: Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:09 pm)

Zitat von daynomate im Beitrag #758
When I say install I just mean the first part (before the first reboot). It recognises the drive fine and seems to create all the necessary partitions (heaps for some reason)

Where (at which disk) did the Setup create the necessary partitions?
Maybe the hidden partition inclusive the EFI boot sector has been created by the Setup onto the wrong disk drive and you didn't recognize it.

Zitat
Alternatively what is the CSM option for the 950 Pro?

The "Compatibility Support Module" (CSM) should be enabled unless your system is able to boot in "clean" UEFI mode (usually there are some required EFI modules missing on systems with an older Intel chipset system or with a discrete graphics card).

Zitat
Is that a way of booting from the 950 without UEFI?

According to Samsung's "White paper" for their 950 Pro SSDs (look >here<) there is an Option ROM module within the SSD, which may allow booting off the Samsung 950 Pro SSD in LEGACY mode for some systems, but I doubt, that this will work with all systems. The much better and safer option is to boot the SSD in UEFI mode using the GUIMode Partition Table (GPT), but this requires the presence of an appropriate NVMe EFI module within the in-use mainboard BIOS.

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#762 | RE: Lenovo D30 (C602-based board) datum

Sun Jul 17, 2016 1:53 pm (Last edited: Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:15 pm)

They were all there on the 512GB Samsung Pro.
I unplugged every other drive (other than the USB-stick itself) before installing so I don't think so. When I went to re-install a second time I noticed all the partitions there.
Unless it put it on the USB?? Surely not.

I see mention on Ubuntu forums of a boot repair report... know anything about that?

Lenovo D30 board (BIOS A1KT57A4), 2 x Xeon 2670, 64GB RAM

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#763 | RE: Lenovo D30 (C602-based board) datum

Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:19 pm

Zitat von daynomate im Beitrag #760
Unless it put it on the USB??

You can check it by inserting the related USB Flash Drive into any Windows system and running the Disk Management.

Zitat
I see mention on Ubuntu forums of a boot repair report... know anything about that?

You can "repair" the boot sector by booting off the media containing the original OS image and choosing "Repair" instead of "Install".

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#764 | RE: Lenovo D30 (C602-based board) datum

Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:33 pm

Checking in disk managment it's just a single 8GB FAT32 partition. Properties on the drive say GUID Partition Table (GPT), basic type.

Lenovo D30 board (BIOS A1KT57A4), 2 x Xeon 2670, 64GB RAM

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#765 | RE: Lenovo D30 (C602-based board) datum

Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:31 pm

Zitat von daynomate im Beitrag #762
Checking in disk managment it's just a single 8GB FAT32 partition.

The Win10 Setup always creates a separate small sized and usually hidden partition containing the boot sector. The only question is, where (on which disk) it is situated.

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