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#4816 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:56 am

Hi guys,
I found this thread today while looking for a way to make nvme ssd bootable on my msi z77a-gd65. The disk I wanted to boot was a clone of hdd with windows 10. At the beggining, after moding the BIOS, nothing happened - Windows was still booting from my hdd. I was also unable to choose ssd as a bootable option in BIOS. So I disconnected all hdd's and it worked! At least I thought so...

After disconnecting other hdd's the Windows booted from ssd. So I plugged my hdd's in and turned on the computer again. The BIOS was detecting the hdd's and the windows booted from ssd. BUT after the launch hdd's were not visible in Windows, not even in disk management or device manager!

What may be causing this issue? I really have no idea.

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#4817 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:36 am

@Perceptio:
Welcome to the Win-RAID Forum!
Did you read and follow the guide, which is within the start post of this thread? Did you find there any advice to clone a previously used system drive onto the NVMe SSD?
After having flashed the NVMe modded BIOS, do you see a disk drive named "PATA" or "PATA_SS" within the "BOOT" section of the BIOS?
Which NVMe SSD model are you using?
Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)

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#4818 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:16 pm

Hi, I've moded the HP Z210 BIOS with the NvmExpressDxe_Small file, but i get an error "Error! System ROM image is invalid." Can anyone help me on this? appreciated.

The Image file is here https://bit.ly/2Za8OKg . Thanks

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#4819 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:36 pm

@a4cheong:
How did you try to flash the modded BIOS? You cannot do it by using the "normal" BIOS flashing tool, which has been delivered by the mainboard manufacturer.
If you want, that I check your modded BIOS, you should post a link to the original BIOS as well.

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#4820 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:14 pm (Last edited: Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:39 pm)

@Fernando:
Thank you I will do it again.
Now I see the error, but shall it be after all modules before the empty space or after the last DXE module? before in my case PEI module which is last in this section?
And why you modded with "small" there was no problem in my case to mod it with "full" version?

Will do it tonight,
and post results :)

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#4821 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:51 pm

Zitat von PitKoz im Beitrag #4817
Now I see the error, but shall it be after all modules before the empty space or after the last DXE module?

It should be inserted after (below) the last module, which has a GUID.

Zitat von PitKoz im Beitrag #4817
And why you modded with "small" there was no problem in my case to mod it with "full" version?)

The MMTool gave me the message, that there is not enough space for the insertion of the "full" sized NVMe module. For the insertion itself I always use the AMI UEFI MMTool (because this tool doesn't touch any existing Pad-file and finds the correct location automaticly).

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#4822 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:11 pm

Hey Fernando

I tried using this guide but i am a bit stuck :(
I flashed the bios okay and the device shows up as pata in uefi + legacy mode
when i install OS in uefi only mode the device shows up in windows installer it completes fine. but the device dont show up as windows boot manager and i can't see the device at all in uefi mode.
when i switch to legacy + uefi it shows but as pata still.
I tried multiple times modding the bios and flash but still same result.

My specs:
MB: msi z97-G43
CPU: intel I5 4590
NVME: intel 660p 512gb

Thanks a lot ! really hope to get this working !

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#4823 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:16 pm (Last edited: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:21 pm)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #4818
Zitat von PitKoz im Beitrag #4817
Now I see the error, but shall it be after all modules before the empty space or after the last DXE module?
It should be inserted after (below) the last module, which has a GUID.
Zitat von PitKoz im Beitrag #4817
And why you modded with "small" there was no problem in my case to mod it with "full" version?)
The MMTool gave me the message, that there is not enough space for the insertion of the "full" sized NVMe module. For the insertion itself, I always use the AMI UEFI MMTool (because this tool doesn't touch any existing Pad-file and finds the correct location automatically).

I was using MMTool 4.50.0.23 and beside this that I placed the module in the wrong place did not get any warnings.
Which version of MMT did you use, and I see the difference in this bios file as per different number-codes around the place we inserted all these mods.
Anyway, I can not upload to the forum the bios saved from my MoBo except two zipped 7z chunks of the Rom file :)
I guess it would be good to raise the limit for attachment as BIOS-es are reaching 20 Mb... and zipped or 7z are about 9Mb.
I would like definitively use the BIOS from my MoBo as it has the completely perfect condition and works great, there may be several versions of this BIOS .. this one I HAVE IS DOWNLOADED FROM KOREA SERVER, but there are 5 servers for bios in Gigabyte and I bet there are differences between them. I chose always Korea as they have the most regulated and restricted law for soft and digital maters including Microsoft and Intel and all others...

PitKoz has attached files to this post

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#4824 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:46 pm

@Patte_DK:
Welcome to the Win-RAID Forum!
It is very important, that the EFI boot partion (= "Windows Boot Manager") has been created within the NVMe SSD by the OS Setup.
Did you unplug all other disk drives except the NVMe SSD before you started with the OS installation?
My advice: Try the OS installation once more and don't forget to let the Win10 Setup delete all existing partitions of the NVMe SSDs and to create a new partition for the OS installation.
Good luck!
Dieter (alias Fernando)

@PitKoz:
As soon as I have the required time I will check your attached original BIOS and try to insert the full-sized NVMe EFI module by using the AMI MMTool v4.50.
By the way: The size limitation of attached files is determined by our Hoster and cannot be altered by any of our Admins.

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#4825 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:12 am (Last edited: Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:19 am)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #4821

@PitKoz:
As soon as I have the required time I will check your attached original BIOS and try to insert the full-sized NVMe EFI module by using the AMI MMTool v4.50.
By the way: The size limitation of attached files is determined by us and cannot be altered by any of our Admins.

Thank you, can't wait, but busy as I mentioned before aside of Computer also, so have to manage my time and do other stuff,

Btw: what you mean by Hoster?

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #4821
determined by our Hoster

So "host it is what makes me weak" Said Joda :)

I managed to load zipped BIOS from MY PC to Bios_Mods... do they have different host?

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#4826 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:25 am (Last edited: Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:22 am)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #4821
Did you unplug all other disk drives except the NVMe SSD before you started with the OS installation?

I did try to set up win 10 with all other disks unplugged and it refused to set up saying something like this "setup can not continue as the disk is not bootable, select another disk"

I am really sniffing retorsion on BIOS-es F7 and F8 that if they are not reversible to F6 and lower, they make this MoBo unusable with Win7.

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#4827 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:03 am

I think I did it with UEFITool_0.26.0_win
here are screens first with two modules inserted one from the mistake and second from advice both compared with your small :)
I will give it a chance :)

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#4828 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:30 am

@PitKoz:
Yes, your latest screenshots look fine. Even the following Pad-file is still present at the correct location. Try to flash it!
Good luck!

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#4829 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:44 am

@Fernando
Thank you, Fernando
It is ALIVE!!!!

(sorry for the quality but after 14 h work shifts my hands were shaking a bit... and I am 61 too hahahahahahaha)
I did it last night, was really surprised as this board even loaded all BIOS profile in so did not have to start tuning from scratch :)
Nice MoBo!
could not send instantly this news, as reenabled raids 1 and had to reattach reset mirror disks to them,
just woke up, to check and all is fine, now I need to migrate "this" system to SSD.
I wonder if I will need to edit "msahci" registry on cloned to comply with this disk (just teasing I know I have to), I do it easily with USB3 HDD adapter (you can see as the last option for boot in picture) but still, more to search in "granddad google" archives...
The windows 10 system I try to set up in this disk still Have error.
But now it should be possible to Install any of it in, just going to try.
the first partition will be Win 10 blank shot directly from CD, and the second cloned win 7 and third cloned win 7 upgraded to 10 and finally I will be set to my custom. Fernando, you are Native German speaker, don't you feel that using commas in English is a bit strange?
For now, saving with Makrium all that can be on the line of this process, or in danger of corruption.

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#4830 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:49 am (Last edited: Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:07 pm)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #4825
Yes, your latest screenshots look fine. Even the following Pad-file is still present at the correct location. Try to flash it!

I did insert after the last line in the module not after last "DXE driver" line and before empty space using UEFITool_0.26.0_win, this suited more my logic as before empty space there will be space for expansion, maybe that is why your try with AMI's MMTool 4.50.0023 which shows different order in modules could not fit "NvmExpressDxE_4", these instructions were a bit confusing for me in the guide.

Is the process of changing IRST OROM for this MoBO same procedure with replace option?
I ask some time ago in Bios-Mods for help with it but web forum seems dead, plenty people checking this thread now about 100 in 2-3 days.
This could be all together, posts from here and posts from bios-mods, a handbook for dummies how to get this result I am targeting and trying to achieve :)

Wish me a short time spent on this, as I need to do other things in the course of my main business/work.

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