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#3781 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:36 am

Anyone that can mod an ASUS Z170M-E D3 2604 BIOS? I don't have the option to "insert into" when trying to add the NVMe module. I have an ADATA SX8200 Pro that does not show up in the BIOS.

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#3782 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:27 am (Last edited: Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:13 am)

@effbee:
Welcome to the Win-RAID Forum!

Zitat von effbee im Beitrag #3778
Anyone that can mod an ASUS Z170M-E D3 2604 BIOS?

It is very easy and should be no problem for everyone. I haven't written the guide and attached all the pictures with the intention to do the BIOS modification myself.
If you are unsure regarding the result of your work, you can attach your modded BIOS as *.ZIP or *.RAR archive. Then I will do a look into it and give you a feedback (ok/not ok).

Zitat von effbee im Beitrag #3778
I don't have the option to "insert into" when trying to add the NVMe module.

The option is "insert after".
When you have flashed the modded BIOS successfully, you should see a new Disk Drive named "PATA" or "PATA SS" within the BOOT section of the BIOS.
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Dieter (alias Fernando)

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#3783 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:12 am (Last edited: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:16 am)

I was not using the right version of UEFITool, the "Insert" options were greyed out on everything, using 0.25.1 worked correctly. Here is the modified BIOS to check.
Z170M-E D3 2604 NVMe

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#3784 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:31 am (Last edited: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:40 am)

@Fernando
I flashed the bios with the correct insertion successfully. Then I have replaced the original M.2 (I think this was a SATA version which is shown in the bios) with my Samsung Evo 970.
Unfortunately I see neither the Samsung Evo 970 nor the "PATA SS" in my bios.
Is this normal for some AMI bios versions?
In the article from Chris I can read, that the drive must not appear in the bios. If I can install Windows 10 on the M.2 and Windows is bootable from the Evo. If the OS is bootable the insertion was successfull even if the drive doesn't appear in the bios (but the bootable system on the Samsung Evo is shown in the bios).

Can you or anyone else confirm that this is normal and my system runs as desired?

Cheers
Bernd

Asus ROG G751JY, GeForce GTX980M

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#3785 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:39 am (Last edited: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:48 am)

@effbee:
The NvmExpressDxe_4.ffs module has been inserted correctly, but I do not recommend to flash the modded BIOS.
Reason:
There is no need to insert any NVMe module, because the stock BIOS natively does fully support NVMe (you can find the related Nvme module within the DXE Volume of the original BIOS). So it is not a good idea to add a second NVMe module to the BIOS.
If you should not be able to get Win10 installed in UEFI mode onto your ADATA NVMe SSD, you should give us some additional information:
1. Which is your current system drive (manufacturer/model/used data transfer protocol) and where is it connected?
2. Where did you try to connect your ADATA NVMe SSD?

@hellwarrior:
Provided, that you got the modded BIOS successfully flashed and your NVMe SSD is connected to a PCIe slot, you should be able to get Win10 properly installed onto your NVMe SSD.
If your NVMe SSD should be connected to an M.2 port, I am not sure about it. There are M.2 ports, which are only SATA connected. In this case you would not be able to get any NVMe SSD running with the on-board M.2 port.
The only solution would be to connect the NVMe SSD via Adapter to a PCIe slot.

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#3786 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:52 am (Last edited: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:53 am)

@Fernando
But the Samsung Evo is running in my Notebook. Yesterday I installed Windows 10 on the Evo and it works. Windows starts correctly from the Evo.
I just miss the Evo and the "PATA SS" in the bios as described here from some users. The old M.2 which I have replaced before was listed in the bios.

In another forum I read that the NVMe must not be listed in the bios. When I can boot my OS from the NVM M.2 the bios mod works.
Is this correct? Windows starts absulotely correct from my Evo.
I will just ensure that the missing bios entry for the Samsung Evo ist not an error in any case.

Cheers
Bernd

Asus ROG G751JY, GeForce GTX980M

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#3787 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:03 pm

@hellwarrior:
Since you are able to boot off the NVMe SSD, everthing is fine.
If the BIOS wouldn't have detected the SSD, you wouldn't be able to use it.
Usually the NVMe SSD is shown within old UEFI BIOSes (without native NVMe support) as "PATA" or "PATA SS", but these names are in the end misleading, because they imply, that the user is able to boot off a listed disk drive with the name "PATA", but this would not work.

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#3788 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:24 pm (Last edited: Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:59 pm)

@Fernando
Thank you for you explaination.
The bios mod also made my uefi bios to an uefi bios with native NVMe support and therefore it makes absolutely no difference whether the NVMe SSD appears in the bios or not. Correct?

Cheers
Bernd

Asus ROG G751JY, GeForce GTX980M

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#3789 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:00 pm

Zitat von hellwarrior im Beitrag #3785
The bios mod also made my uefi bios to an uefi bios with native NVMe support and therefore it makes absolutely no difference whether the NVMe SSD appears in the bios or not. Correct?

Correct!

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#3790 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:58 pm (Last edited: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:48 am)

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#3791 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:27 pm

@laranje:
Your screenshot indicates, that you booted in LEGACY mode. This way you cannot boot off the NVMe SSD.
Questions:
1. What has your post to do with the topic of this thread?
2. What have you done and what happened?
3. Were you able to boot off the NVMe SSD?
According to the attachment of >this< post you did not even follow my guide. Instead of inserting 1 single NVMe file you inserted 3 of them!

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#3792 | RE: RE:[Discussions] NVMe Support datum

Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:58 pm (Last edited: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:02 pm)

Do you think it is good idea to replace AMI NVMe module on H170 with the ed2k one? My motherboard is taking long time to initialize, around 7 seconds.

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#3793 | RE: RE:[Discussions] NVMe Support datum

Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:26 pm

@funtomod:
No, I don't think, that it is a good idea. You should contact the mainboard manufacturer and ask for a BIOS with a better NVMe support.

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#3794 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:01 pm (Last edited: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:52 pm)

@Fernando:
I have tried with your file and also inserting all three.
I have not been able to start windows ever with the NVMe :-(
I have tried removing all the hard drives and putting the bios in uefi alone and also it remains in the screen of the bios.
When I connect it starts windows but it does not detect it either, when restarting it stays on the screen of the bios, see the pic:

EDIT by Fernando: Unneeded fully quoted post replaced by directly addressing (to save space)

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#3795 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:07 pm (Last edited: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:48 am)

Zitat von laranje im Beitrag #3791
I have tried with your file and also inserting all three.

How did you flash the modded BIOS? Do you see a Disk Drive named "PATA" or similar, when you enter the BIOS and navigate to the "BOOT" section of it?

Zitat von laranje im Beitrag #3791
I have not been able to start windows ever with the NVMe :-(

Before you can start Windows from the NVMe SSD, you have to install it onto the NVMe SSD by booting off an USB Flash Drive in UEFI mode.

Zitat von laranje im Beitrag #3791
I have tried removing all the hard drives and putting the bios in uefi alone and also it remains in the screen of the bios.

What remains in the screen of the BIOS? As long as you haven't installed Win10 onto your NVMe SSD, you cannot boot off it.

Zitat von laranje im Beitrag #3791
When I connect it starts windows but it does not detect it either, when restarting it stays on the screen of the bios, see the pic

I cannot see such picture. Your attached picture shows the hardware detection by the tool AIDA64.
I repeat: Before you will be able to boot in UEFI mode off your NVMe SSD, you have to boot in UEFI mode off an USB Flash Drive, which contains the desired Win10 Image, and to do a clean install onto the NVMe SSD (provided, that it is detected by the Win10 Setup).

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