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#2401 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:59 pm

So, there is no way to boot my old installation of win 7?) am I right? Because that is something I don't want to do (reinstall).

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#2402 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:23 pm

@lsichip:
If you want to benefit from the performance of your NVMe SSD, you should install the OS and the Windows Boot Manager onto it.
My suggestion: Do a fresh install of the OS onto the NVMe SSD in UEFI mode. All other options are worse and will take a lot of time as well.

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#2403 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:25 pm

Zitat von lsichip im Beitrag #2401
So, there is no way to boot my old installation of win 7?) am I right? Because that is something I don't want to do (reinstall).

I think you could probably install Clover onto the hard drive after the mod is in place in the bios and then use Clover to jump start your Windows 7 install.

Think that may be doable..

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#2404 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:47 pm

@Isichip

Zitat von lsichip im Beitrag #2401
So, there is no way to boot my old installation of win 7?) am I right? Because that is something I don't want to do (reinstall).

It can be done, but like Fernando said, the process can be time consuming (with the potential of losing your data). And a fresh install is known to give you better performance, probably due to a lack of fragmentation.

The drive with your current Win7 OS most likely has the MBR partition scheme. I don�t know if there is disk cloning software (Acronis, Macrium Reflect, etc) that can clone Win7 from a drive with the MBR partition scheme to a drive with the GPT partition scheme, but I doubt it.

If your current Windows 7 OS was on a drive with the GPT partition scheme, you would already have �Windows Boot Manager� in the boot section of your BIOS. Then you could simply clone the OS to the new drive. I cloned a GPT Windows 7 install from a hard drive to my 960 EVO and it worked. I had to install the Samsung NVMe driver and two Microsoft hotfixes to the Windows 7 OS before cloning it, but after it was cloned to the 960 EVO it showed up in the BIOS as �Windows Boot Manager� and would boot to Windows without issues. Also, trim support would need to be enabled after cloning to the SSD.

But if you have an MBR partition scheme you would first have to convert from MBR to GPT partition scheme without data loss. The Pro versions of MiniTool Partition Wizard, EaseUS Partition Master, and AOMEI Partition Assistant are supposed to do this, but I could find no free software that would.

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#2405 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:10 am (Last edited: Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:54 pm)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #2398
Since I do not really know the exact reason for this issue (is it a specific code of the inserted module or an incomplete embedding into the Power Management processes), I currently don't have an idea how to solve it.

It turned out that this is a problem with my motherboard. On any, even the official version of the BIOS, sleep has stopped working. The same was true for any operating system. Helped change the settings in the UEFI: advanced -> APM -> ErP Ready -> Enable (S4 + S5).
I flash bios via usb programmer ch341a. :)

Thx! It works! Windows 10 successfully boot on the Samsung 960 RPO.
Sorry for my English.

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#2406 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:31 pm (Last edited: Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:33 pm)

Hi! In may 2017 i was able to succesfully install 960 evo on p85-d3 motherboard and everything is working great except that from time to time my pc just freezes when it's on idle. I can still move my mouse, but nothing responses at all, so i'm forced to hard reboot my pc. That happens like 3-5 times in a month.

Does anyone here expirience that kind of problem too? Thank you!

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#2407 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:10 am

Zitat von SOSKI_KROTA im Beitrag #2406
Hi! In may 2017 i was able to succesfully install 960 evo on p85-d3 motherboard and everything is working great except that from time to time my pc just freezes when it's on idle. I can still move my mouse, but nothing responses at all, so i'm forced to hard reboot my pc. That happens like 3-5 times in a month.

Does anyone here expirience that kind of problem too? Thank you!

List of possibilities:
1. Hardware resource conflict
2. Malware or background app eating resources
3. Corrupt Windows Install

So you got ask your self if this happens with a non nvme drive? Perhaps try a fresh install? I had a machine that use to do that kind of behavior because the
hard drive controller on the motherboard was faulty. Try installing updated device drivers, new intel inf drivers, new storage drivers. Reinstall the OS.
If non of that works probably the motherboard is failing.

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#2408 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:41 am (Last edited: Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:08 am)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #2393
I think, that it will work once the OS has been properly installed onto the NVMe SSD.
My advices to unplug all other HDDs/SSDs except the NVMe SSD and to set the Intel SATA Controller to "AHCI" mode (=DEFAULT) was only meant as action to increase the chances to get the OS and the Windows Boot Manager properly installed onto the NVMe SSD. After having completed the OS installation, it should be possible to reconnect all other HDDs/SSDs and to restore the previous BIOS settings regarding the SATA mode of the on-board Storage Controllers.

Just to inform, I have successfully installed Win10Pro on Samsung 960 pro. I left everything as is, I mean did not change RAID mod of SATA Controller, or anything else. Just plug and install. Everything is working fine.

EDIT by Fernando: Unneeded parts of the fully quoted post removed (to save space)

Asus Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac)/USB 3.1, Samsung 960 Pro 512Gb + 2x2 TB Seagate as RAID1 + 256Gb Samsung 850 Pro for acceleration, Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1275 v3, 4x4Gb 1866Mhz CAS9, Windows 10 Pro Workstation x64

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#2409 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:55 pm

Hi,

My motherboard is Asus P8H77-M and I followed every steps. BIOS is modded, CSM, secure boot & fast boot disabled. Even the Win10 is successfully loaded into the NVMe SSD with UEFI mode. Still the SSD doesn't appear in BIOS as a bootable device.

Any clue?

Thanks a lot anyway for such a detail guide. Really appreciate it!

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#2410 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:18 pm (Last edited: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:18 pm)

@soulambusher:
Welcome to the Win-RAID Forum!

It is absolutely normal, that the NVMe SSD is not listed as bootable device within the BIOS. Nevertheless it is bootable, but only in UEFI mode, where it is listed as �Windows Boot Manager�.
So there is nothing to worry about.

Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)

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#2411 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:28 pm (Last edited: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:30 pm)

Thanks for your quick reply, but it force me back to BIOS as no drive can be detected even though uefi mode Win10 is already installed onto the NVMe SSD.

No Windows Boot Manager is found in boot selection menu.

Thanks,
Soul

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#2412 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:20 pm

Zitat von soulambusher im Beitrag #2411
No Windows Boot Manager is found in boot selection menu.

This verifies, that you have done something wrong.
If you want help, you should give us some additional informations:
1. Are you sure, that your mainboard BIOS contains the required NVMe module? Is a device named "PATA" listed within your BIOS?
2. Which OS did you install and how did you do it?

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#2413 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:16 pm (Last edited: Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:04 pm)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #2412
If you want help, you should give us some additional informations:
1. Are you sure, that your mainboard BIOS contains the required NVMe module? Is a device named "PATA" listed within your BIOS?
2. Which OS did you install and how did you do it?

I found out that each time after I flashed the modded BIOS with aufdos /GAN command (I'm sure the modded part 'NvmExpressDxe_3' was there), then I re-extract the BIOS using afudos /O command for verification using UEFITool, the modded part simply gone like never modded before.

Has anyone experienced that before?

Thanks,
Dennis

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#2414 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:03 pm

Zitat von soulambusher im Beitrag #2413
I found out that each time after I flashed the modded BIOS with aufdos /GAN command (I'm sure the modded part 'NvmExpressDxe_3' was there), then I re-extract the BIOS using afudos /O command for verification using UEFITool, the modded part simply gone like never modded before.

If you should be right, you can easily solve the problem by re-flashing the modded BIOS (without trying to extract it later on).

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#2415 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:30 pm

I think I may have run into the issue which Coderush described.

'sometimes AFU /GAN reports successful flash, but after reboot there are some modifications, that wasn't applied.'

Do anyone have solution on this situation?

Thanks,
Dennis

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