Forum - RE: RE:[Discussions] NVMe Support

#2176 | RE: RE:[Discussions] NVMe Support datum

Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:02 pm

Zitat von AquaMan im Beitrag #2161
Can someone tel me : was my attached modded bios modded incorrectly?

The NvmExpressDxE_2 module seems to be correctly inserted.

My current System:
MB: ASRock X570 Pro4, CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, System Drive: 500 GB Samsung 980 Pro, Graphics: Sapphire Radeon RX570, OS: Win10 x64 Pro
Donation Link:
If you are satisfied with my Forum activities, you can send a donation to my personal PayPal account by clicking onto >this< link.

reply

#2177 | RE: RE:[Discussions] NVMe Support datum

Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:59 pm

As I told him when I was nice enough to mod the BIOS for him and send it to him. I also mentioned creating the USB with Rufus using "GPT partition scheme for UEFI" with "FAT32" file system. I also mentioned that "Boot Option Priorities" in the "Boot" section of the BIOS probably needed to be changed after he flashed the BIOS. This is the problem: "Truly, it was more guessing than knowing what I was doing".

reply

#2178 | RE: RE:[Discussions] NVMe Support datum

Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:49 pm

I recompiled Rufus to create a bootable NTFS GPT usb stick that autoloads the NVME module from the usb stick if anyone wants it. So even if you screw up inserting the nvme module into your bios you could at least install windows on to it. Has limited use after that...

reply

#2179 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:22 pm

Newer HP server/workstation, and most business class systems have bios files that are protected with a checksum.
the currently installed bios has a routine that checks the current installed bios at boot for the correct checksum, and also when a new bios is being flashed
and if the checksum does not match it aborts the update.

due to this checksumming there is no currently known way to flash a modified bios to these systems,
also using a programer to flash a modified bios chip will also fail as the bios will as stated above perform a checksum check at boot

Note:
it is however possible to update a early z820 001 motherboard with a later 003 Motherboard bios. using a programer
(later z820 mb's had updated code to support ivy bridge cpu's)
why does this work? because you are simply replacing a valid HP bios with another valid HP bios. z820's have a protected boot block that can not be flashed from dos,
or windows allowing bad bios flashes to be recovered from. it's this boot block that has the updated ivy bridge code

reply

#2180 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:57 pm

I got my Samsung 960 installed and it's working fine but I haven't attempted to make it bootable yet. I want to get my backup computer up and running so I can go online and troubleshoot if I run into issues with Fernando's BIOS mod. Just a quick question: has anyone been able to restore a good, working backup image of Windows from Acronis or some other backup software directly onto the NVMe SSD? I'd prefer to do that rather than a fresh install of Windows. However, I'm willing to do the fresh install but I just had a ton of programs/drivers installed and it will be laborious to have to re-install.

Windows 10 Professional 64-bit OS, Intel Core i5-4690K CPU, ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1070 8GB video, Asus Sabertooth Z87 MB, Corsair 16GB (4 x 4GB) RAM, Corsair Carbide Series 300R PC Case, Antec 620W PSU

reply

#2181 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:36 pm

Zitat von ManoMan im Beitrag #2169
has anyone been able to restore a good, working backup image of Windows from Acronis or some other backup software directly onto the NVMe SSD?

It is no problem to clone the entire data content from one Disk Drive to another, but you will not be able to boot directly off the NVMe drive after having done that, because the needed Windows Boot Manager entries are different, when the new system drive is connected to another Storage Controller than the previously used one.

My current System:
MB: ASRock X570 Pro4, CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, System Drive: 500 GB Samsung 980 Pro, Graphics: Sapphire Radeon RX570, OS: Win10 x64 Pro
Donation Link:
If you are satisfied with my Forum activities, you can send a donation to my personal PayPal account by clicking onto >this< link.

reply

#2182 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:04 pm (Last edited: Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:04 pm)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #2170
It is no problem to clone the entire data content from one Disk Drive to another, but you will not be able to boot directly off the NVMe drive after having done that, because the needed Windows Boot Manager entries are different, when the new system drive is connected to another Storage Controller than the previously used one.

Okay, thanks. I'm assuming though that if I make a backup of the boot drive after I do a fresh OS install onto the NVMe drive, I can restore it normally, correct? I'm planning on switching from Acronis to Macrium Reflect soon.

Windows 10 Professional 64-bit OS, Intel Core i5-4690K CPU, ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1070 8GB video, Asus Sabertooth Z87 MB, Corsair 16GB (4 x 4GB) RAM, Corsair Carbide Series 300R PC Case, Antec 620W PSU

reply

#2183 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:48 pm (Last edited: Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:04 pm)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #2170
It is no problem to clone the entire data content from one Disk Drive to another, but you will not be able to boot directly off the NVMe drive after having done that, because the needed Windows Boot Manager entries are different, when the new system drive is connected to another Storage Controller than the previously used one.

Thats not true. I have successfully cloned a Sata disk onto a Nvme disk and removed the sata disk and been able to boot off the newly cloned nvme disk holding the Windows 10 Clone. The problem is that I have found that major Windows updates from one version to the next fails probably because its a clone and the entries are different like you said. So its best to do a fresh install if you can.

reply

#2184 | Report of Successful MOD datum

Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:31 pm (Last edited: Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:32 pm)

Hello Everybody,

Thank you Fernando and active members of this thread who led me to simple and fast solution.

Firstly, launch Windows 10 installation through USB, partitioned my new SSD (windows installation recognized it) and installed Windows on it. Unfortunately, BIOS unrecognized my new SSD, so i started to dig information and found this exclusive topic. Further, modified BIOS according Fernando's instructions and re-flashed through Windows 7 on my old HDD with @BIOS software. After reboot Windows started through my new SSD. Nice and easy!

My current system: MB: Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 (rev. 1.x), CPU: Intel Core i5 4440, Disk Drives: Booted on Intel® SSD DC P3100 Series 256GB, M.2 80mm PCIe 3.0 x4 with I-Tec PCI-e 2x M.2 Card + TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB, Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 4600, OS: Win10 Pro x64

reply

#2185 | RE: Report of Successful MOD datum

Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:19 pm

@rambler:
Welcome to the WinRAID Forum!

Thanks for your feedback. It is fine, that you succeeded and now can enjoy the speed of your NVMe SSD.
Question: Which one of the offered NVMe modules did you insert into the BIOS?

Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)

My current System:
MB: ASRock X570 Pro4, CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, System Drive: 500 GB Samsung 980 Pro, Graphics: Sapphire Radeon RX570, OS: Win10 x64 Pro
Donation Link:
If you are satisfied with my Forum activities, you can send a donation to my personal PayPal account by clicking onto >this< link.

reply

#2186 | RE: Report of Successful MOD datum

Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:35 pm

Well, I did the procedure yesterday. Count me in as another success story. Had no issues whatsoever and everything went without a hitch. Installed Windows 10 Professional onto my Samsung 960 EVO NVMe SSD and everything works fine. Even seems to boot a few seconds quicker than with my old SATA SSDs.

A big thank you to Fernando and his guide and those others who contributed and helped enhance and refine his BIOS mod.

Windows 10 Professional 64-bit OS, Intel Core i5-4690K CPU, ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1070 8GB video, Asus Sabertooth Z87 MB, Corsair 16GB (4 x 4GB) RAM, Corsair Carbide Series 300R PC Case, Antec 620W PSU

reply

#2187 | RE: Report of Successful MOD datum

Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:45 pm

@ManoMan:
Thanks for your feedback! It is fine, that everything works fine.
Final questions:
1. Which NVMe module did you insert into the BIOS?
2. Did you use a cloned or a fresh OS installation?

My current System:
MB: ASRock X570 Pro4, CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, System Drive: 500 GB Samsung 980 Pro, Graphics: Sapphire Radeon RX570, OS: Win10 x64 Pro
Donation Link:
If you are satisfied with my Forum activities, you can send a donation to my personal PayPal account by clicking onto >this< link.

reply

#2188 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:05 pm (Last edited: Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:06 pm)

[[File:P8H67-ASUS-3801-NVMe.zip]]New BIOS on my ASUS P8H67 B3 Revision with NVMe-Module is in place and works as desired. Thanks a lot to everybody!

Modded BIOS is attached.

chiefrocker has attached files to this post

P8H67-ASUS-3801-NVMe.zip

reply

#2189 | RE: Report of Successful MOD datum

Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:54 pm (Last edited: Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:05 pm)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #2176
1. Which NVMe module did you insert into the BIOS?
2. Did you use a cloned or a fresh OS installation?

I used the one contained in the NvmExpressDxe_3.rar archive. I did a fresh installation of Windows 10 from a USB stick formatted with Rufus. The only time I felt nervous after completing the procedure was when I went to back up my boot drive with my Acronis 2014 rescue disc (also on a USB stick). Acronis wouldn't recognize the new NVMe SSD. I'm guessing Acronis didn't have drivers for NVMe devices back in 2014 on their rescue media.. However, a simple upgrade to Acronis 2017 fixed the problem and I was able to successfully backup my new OS installation on the NVMe drive.

Windows 10 Professional 64-bit OS, Intel Core i5-4690K CPU, ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1070 8GB video, Asus Sabertooth Z87 MB, Corsair 16GB (4 x 4GB) RAM, Corsair Carbide Series 300R PC Case, Antec 620W PSU

reply

#2190 | RE: [Guide] How to get full NVMe support for all Systems with an AMI UEFI BIOS datum

Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:59 pm

@chiefrocker:
It is fine, that you succeeded and are willing to offer your modded BIOS for other interested users with the same mainboard model, but you should do it within the related Sub-Forum and not here.
Much more interesting for the visitors of this thread would be your report about
a) which NVMe module version you inserted into the BIOS and
b) the exact procedure how you succeeded.

My current System:
MB: ASRock X570 Pro4, CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, System Drive: 500 GB Samsung 980 Pro, Graphics: Sapphire Radeon RX570, OS: Win10 x64 Pro
Donation Link:
If you are satisfied with my Forum activities, you can send a donation to my personal PayPal account by clicking onto >this< link.

reply

Please enter a reason for warning.