Forum - RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules

#1381 | RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules datum

Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:50 am

Update of the Start post
Changelog:

new: Intel RST RAID ROM v17.8.0.4460 for DEV_2822 Intel RAID Controllers

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#1382 | RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules datum

Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:14 am (Last edited: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:04 pm)

Hi Fernando (and everyone), do you mind clarifying "The function and the compatibility of the "Intel(R) SATA AHCI Controller" obviously is managed by a "normal" (non-OROM) BIOS module, which cannot resp. don't need to be updated."
I'm a bit confused on a couple things, namely: Intel AHCI OROM vs. Intel RAID OROM vs. Phoenix AHCI OROM vs "a 'normal' non-OROM BIOS module".

I have an EVGA x58 / ICH10R. It has an Award/Phoenix BIOS. I've heard a few things, and I'm not sure what's correct:

a) If I'm using AHCI and not RAID, the Phoenix AHCI OROM will be used and not the Intel RAID OROM
b) neither the Phoenix AHCI nor Intel RAID OROMs will be used, but instead a "normal non-OROM BIOS module"
c) the Intel RAID OROM has an AHCI module inside it, so if I select "RAID" mode, it'll use an AHCI module within the RAID OROM
d) that OROMs don't matter at all once Windows has started, so it's unnecessary to care about them unless you need RAID ability in pre-boot BIOS/UEFI

Which is correct? I'm only running one SSD so I don't need RAID, but if there's an AHCI module/ability in the Intel RAID OROM, I would think it'd be best to run with that one, given it's an Intel SATA controller, instead of the very old Phoenix AHCI OROM

Also, regarding the names of OROM/PCI modules, in the tutorial, you mention the necessity of using the exact same names, however, I've seen others BIOS mods where the PCI module names regularly change with updated modules. The CBROM "update/replace" seems to detect and know which module to swap appropriately with.
Is it indeed necessary to use same exact names? What happens if you didn't use the same names?

EDIT by Fernando: I have slightly re-formatted the text (to make the options clearer)

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#1383 | RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules datum

Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:04 pm

@Coldblackice:
The following picture shows the BIOS modules of the BIOS named E76783.bin, which is latest one for your EVGA X58 mainboard:

As you can see, there are only 3 Option ROM modules within your BIOS:

PCI ROM A: jmb363 1.07.25.bin (= JMicron RAID ROM v1.07.25)
PCI ROM B: sataorom.bin (= Intel RST RAID ROM v10.5.0.744)
PCI ROM C: rtegpxe239.lom (= Realtek LAN ROM)

This verifies, that there is no AHCI ROM module within your mainboard BIOS.
Now to your questions:

Zitat von Coldblackice im Beitrag #1382
I have an EVGA x58 / ICH10R. It has an Award/Phoenix BIOS. I've heard a few things, and I'm not sure what's correct:
a) If I'm using AHCI and not RAID, the Phoenix AHCI OROM will be used and not the Intel RAID OROM
b) neither the Phoenix AHCI nor Intel RAID OROMs will be used, but instead a "normal non-OROM BIOS module"
c) the Intel RAID OROM has an AHCI module inside it, so if I select "RAID" mode, it'll use an AHCI module within the RAID OROM
d) that OROMs don't matter at all once Windows has started, so it's unnecessary to care about them unless you need RAID ability in pre-boot BIOS/UEFI
Which is correct?

Only the option d) is correct and currently valid for your system.
to options a) and b): A "Phoenix AHCI OROM" cannot be used, because such OROM doesn't exist. Your on-board Intel SATA AHCI Controller neither needs nor uses any OROM BIOS module.
to option c): The Intel RAID OROM BIOS module doesn't have an AHCI OROM module in it, but the RAID mode supports some AHCI features.

Zitat von Coldblackice im Beitrag #1382
Also, regarding the names of OROM/PCI modules, in the tutorial, you mention the necessity of using the exact same names, however, I've seen others BIOS mods where the PCI module names regularly change with updated modules. The CBROM "update/replace" seems to detect and know which module to swap appropriately with.
Is it indeed necessary to use same exact names? What happens if you didn't use the same names?

You can give the inserted Option ROM any name, but I do not recommend to do it, if you want to replace a certain Option ROM by another one.

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#1384 | RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules datum

Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:17 am

@Fernando

Intel RST RAID ROM v17.8.0.4507

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#1385 | RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules datum

Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:33 pm

Update of the Start post
Changelog:

new: Intel RST RAID ROM v17.8.0.4507 for DEV_2822 Intel RAID Controllers

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#1386 | RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules datum

Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:19 am (Last edited: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:08 pm)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #1383
@Coldblackice:
Only the option d) is correct and currently valid for your system.
to options a) and b): A "Phoenix AHCI OROM" cannot be used, because such OROM doesn't exist. Your on-board Intel SATA AHCI Controller neither needs nor uses any OROM BIOS module.
to option c): The Intel RAID OROM BIOS module doesn't have an AHCI OROM module in it, but the RAID mode supports some AHCI features.

Thanks Fernando! So if there is no AHCI module in my BIOS, how is it able to see + interact with drives in BIOS (with AHCI set)? I seem to recall extracting all of the other modules with a particular tool -- perhaps an old old Award tool -- and then when looking through the hex of these, I recall finding a "Phoenix AHCI" orom. But perhaps I'm remembering that incorrectly.

Also, if I don't have any AHCI OROM in my BIOS, how can the drives end up being used by Windows? Is an OROM not even necessary then? If not, what's the point of OROMs if Windows (or any operating system) can access the hardware/drive directly without the need of an OROM?

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#1387 | RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules datum

Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:46 pm

@Coldblackice:
Thanks for your input, which let me look deeper into my archives than before.
Result: You are partly right and my previously given statement was not 100% correct.
There is indeed a Phoenix AHCI module within the BIOS of your X58 chipset mainboard. Its Item-Name is "BIOSF2" and its Original-File-Name is "AH_P10710_ROM.BIN". This module contains the Phoenix AHCI ROM v01.07.10 dated 12/05/2008, which seems to be the latest available Phoenix AHCI ROM module version. Its code is rather similar to the one I had posted >here< in February 2018.
Nevertheless it is fact, that there is no "AHCI Option ROM" within your mainboard BIOS, because the related Phoenix AHCI module is not listed as "PCI ROM[X]".
Interesting point: How is it possible, that you can boot into your OS in AHCI mode using the on-board Intel SATA AHCI Controller, although no discrete AHCI Option ROM has been loaded while booting?
These things are different with newer Intel chipset systems from 5-Series up, because their AMI BIOS contains either an Intel AHCI Option ROM or a Firmware of the on-board Intel SATA AHCI Controller, which doesn't need such separate Option ROM.

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#1388 | RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules datum

Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:02 pm (Last edited: Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:16 pm)

Hi, all!

A long time ago, I flashed the Marvell Controller 88SE9128 on my old EVGA X58 FTW3 motherboard with a firmware found at Station-Drivers.
Since I made this mistake, I have three issues: the device ID is now 9123, I can't access to the Marvell BIOS by pressing Ctrl+M, and the top of that, the speed of this SATA III controller is stuck at 3Gb/s. :/

So, I'd like to know if someone can explain to me how can I inject this ROM: "Marvell 91xx AHCI/RAID ROM v1.0.0.1038 for DEV_9128" to flash the firmware, please?

Many thanks in advance!

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#1389 | RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules datum

Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:24 pm (Last edited: Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:45 pm)

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@Mixmatmax:
You will have to customize the DeviceID code of the Marvell 91xx RAID ROM module, to re-modify the BIOS and to reflash the freshly customized BIOS.
The easiest way is to let SoniX's tool named "SetDevID" do the first part of the job. The currently latest version of that tool is attached.This is the way how to do it:
1. Download and unzip the SetDevID tool.
2. Create a new folder within the root of drive C and give it a specific name (e.g. C:\Test).
3. Copy the desired original Option ROM and the file SetDevID.exe into the just created folder.
4. Run the "Command Prompt", navigate to the folder and run the following command:

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setdevid <devid> <infile> <outfile>

Good luck!

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#1390 | RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules datum

Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:02 pm (Last edited: Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:15 pm)

It's done, the outfile is created... Thanks a lot, Fernando!

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#1391 | RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules datum

Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:23 am

Intel RST RAID ROM v17.8.2.4684

Source came with efi raid driver still v17.8.0.4507 though.

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#1392 | RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules datum

Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:41 am

Update of the Start post
Changelog:

new: Intel RST RAID ROM v17.8.2.4684 for DEV_2822 (= external DeviceID) Intel RAID Controllers

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#1393 | AHCI & RAID ROM Modules datum

Fri May 01, 2020 4:52 pm (Last edited: Fri May 01, 2020 5:49 pm)

@Fernando

new: Intel RST RAID ROM & Intel EFI RaidDriver v17.8.3.4687
new: Intel Gigabit UNDI v0.8.05

+ lots of other new file versions !

is in this MB bios file:

https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LG...G-ASUS-0403.zip

Can you properly extract these files for us to use ?

Thanks,

Biozzz

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#1394 | RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules datum

Fri May 01, 2020 5:51 pm (Last edited: Fri May 01, 2020 6:02 pm)

@biozzz
Actually, they are in all new z490 BIOS files on ASUS support pages.
Not a secret - you can grab all extracted modules from UBU tmp folder when you open BIOS file in UBU tool and haven't exited yet.

@Fernando
Intel RST RAID ROM v17.8.3.4687

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#1395 | RE: AHCI & RAID ROM Modules datum

Wed May 06, 2020 10:56 am (Last edited: Wed May 06, 2020 3:13 pm)

Update of the Start post
Changelog:

new: Intel RST RAID ROM v17.8.3.4687 for DEV_2822 (= external DeviceID) Intel RAID Controllers
new: Intel RSTe SATA RaidOrom module v6.3.0.1005 for DEV_2826 Intel SATA RAID Controllers

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