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#136 | RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:34 am

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #149
Sorry. Do not write. Need to clarify the problem of CPU microcode update.

Ok, I have already mentioned, that the update of the CPU Microcode may be risky with some mainboards.

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#137 | RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:46 am

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #150
Ok, I have already mentioned, that the update of the CPU Microcode may be risky with some mainboards.

The risk is always there, even just flashing the original BIOS. :)

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#138 | RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:53 am

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #151
The risk is always there, even just flashing the original BIOS. :)

You are certainly right, but I think, that the following text makes clear, that there are some additional risks for users, who are going to update the CPU Microcode:

Zitat von Fernando
The most critical toolkit option is the "Update of the Intel CPU Microcode". According to the developer LS_29 resp. SoniX the special procedure to update the Intel CPU microcode depends on the manufacturer of the mainboard and may be quite different from the procedure, which will be used by the toolkit.

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#139 | RE: Re: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:14 am (Last edited: Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:17 am)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #152
Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #151
The risk is always there, even just flashing the original BIOS. :)
You are certainly right, but I think, that the following text makes clear, that there are some additional risks for users, who are going to update the CPU Microcode:
Zitat von Fernando
The most critical toolkit option is the "Update of the Intel CPU Microcode". According to the developer LS_29 resp. SoniX the special procedure to update the Intel CPU microcode depends on the manufacturer of the mainboard and may be quite different from the procedure, which will be used by the toolkit.

Ahhh ... Now it's all good. We have reduced the risks to a minimum when you update the module with CPU microcode. :)

Edit:
But this warning is necessary.

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#140 | RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:53 am (Last edited: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:30 am)

Zitat von SimpleTech im Beitrag #144
Zitat von parsec im Beitrag #143
Hi Fernando, just tried the UBU tool to update the RST OROM and EFI SATADriver modules on my ASRock Z87 Extreme 6 board. The latest UEFI version 2.10 has versions 12.5.0.1815 for both of those modules.

I just tried option 1, and chose the update to 12.7.0.1936. The tool said the update was successful, and displayed the new version numbers correctly.

I then tried to flash the UEFI using the modded file, by using the ASR Instant Flash method. The UEFI file was seen by Instant flash, but the flash failed with a "Security Flash Error", that was the only message displayed. No problems after that, but just wanted to let you know.

I used UBU v 1.0.0 Pre-Release 14 test 28.10.2013.

Thanks for providing this tool, it makes it all to easy to change these modules! I haven't tried it yet on my ASRock Z77 boards.

Open the BIOS file with a hex editor such as HxD. Select from Offset 00000000 to 00000FF0 (just before 00001000) and delete it. Then save and you should be able to flash again in the BIOS.

Oh, and you may notice in the BIOS that the CPU Microcode doesn't change (should show revision 7 instead of 17). It's because the first GUID string (17088572-377F-44EF-8F4E-B09FFF46A070) in MMTool is the one getting modified. The second one which is further down still has the older revisions. It's pretty easy to fix. I simply selected the second one (it's at Volume 04, Index 03) and use the file 306C3-17.ffs that SoniX included with the UEFI BIOS Updater.

Thanks for the assistance, I tried what you suggested using HxD. I was able to delete that section of the file, but was warned the size of the file would be changed (no surprise) when I saved it. I did that anyway, and exited HxD.

I then tried to flash with that file, but the ASRock Instant Flash utility did not recognize the file, so no file to use for the update. For a test, I copied an earlier BIOS version, different file name, unmodified, to the same USB flash drive. So both BIOS files were on the flash drive, with correct file names. Instant Flash only recognized the earlier BIOS file.

So deleting that area of the BIOS file does not seem to result in a useable file. Does it make sense to write zeros to that block? What information is in that header area?

EDIT: I tried filling the 0 to FF0 area with zeros instead of deleting it, and then the BIOS file is recognized by Instant Flash. I did not flash the BIOS with that file yet... wondering about the contents of that "header" area.

I could also copy the original contents of that area from the original BIOS file to the modded BIOS file, but I'm wondering what was changed in the header area in the modded file that caused the first problem I had.

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#141 | RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:16 am

@ parsec
Cut to only the first 4 kilobytes at the beginning.
I'm attaching a file, you just modified.

SoniX has attached files to this post

Z87 Extreme6(2.10)ROM.zip

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#142 | RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:43 am

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #145
For Gigabyte and ASRock and similar, you can update the first module GUID 17088572-377F-44EF-8F4E-B09FFF46A070. I tested it on some motherboards and it works. CPU microcode update can be done in UBU.

Hi,
I do not have the knowledge to understand why there is two 17088572-... modules.
With all my BIOS mods for Gigabyte at TTforum since few weeks i'm using 3 differents .ffs packages with lastest µcode for X79, Z68/Z77 & Z87. Then I simply replace the first 17088572 module in Volume01 with my µcode package and I delete the second one in Volume02, and it works perfectly (FOR GIGABYTE ONLY ! I DON'T TRY WITH OTHER BRAND > RISKY !).
Also your fantastic tool just contains 3 microcodes : 206A729/919 and 306C317. Why not provide a full set of all the latest µcode ?
Zip attached with packages i'm using :
Z87 : 326C113, 326C206 and 326C317
Z77 : 126C107, 126C208, 126C226, 126A308, 126A407, 126A507, 126A604, 126A628, 126A728, 126A810 and 126A919 (i'm using 728 because users report lower OC with 729)
X79 : 6F6D20A, 0F6D302, 6D6D513, 6D6D619, 6D6D710, 076D103, ED6E008, ED6E20D, ED6E308 and ED6E416

VirtualFred has attached files to this post

microcode_package.zip

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#143 | RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:12 pm

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #155
@ parsec
Cut to only the first 4 kilobytes at the beginning.
I'm attaching a file, you just modified.

This file, or removing the first 4K from the modded file (actually 0 to FFF, not FF0) works fine, thank you for that!

I was able to update the RST OROMs fine on my ASRock Z87 board, and can verify the 12.7.0.1936 versions are being used.

I use a UEFI booting Windows 8 installation, and this board's UEFI provides the RST RAID UI/OROM as an option in the UEFI itself when in RAID mode. That option displays the RST OROM, which was 12.5, and is now 12.7.0.1936.

The UBU package is a great BIOS/UEFI modding learning tool, great job guys, thanks!!

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#144 | RE: Re: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:18 pm

@ VirtualFred
In Russian it would be easier. So I'll tell you later. Will deal only with the correct English translation.

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#145 | RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:22 am (Last edited: Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:39 am)

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #158
@ VirtualFred
In Russian it would be easier. So I'll tell you later. Will deal only with the correct English translation.

Same problem for me : I can't understand a word of Russian ;) ... and Google Translation make soup :(

Maybe a screenshot will be easier to understand, an example with GA-Z77X-UD5H BIOS F16 : Original vs modified microcode
*Only tested with Gigabyte Dual-Bios*

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#146 | RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:19 am (Last edited: Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:10 am)

@VirtualFred
I understood you. Just think how to answer, to make it clear. :)
Ok. Let us with examples.
GA-Z77X-UD5H I only found the BIOS F15q
Vol Ind
01 01 -> replace. Ok.
02:01:00 03 -> Delete "empty" module. Why??
03 02 ????

Add:

Zitat
(i'm using 728 because users report lower OC with 729)

Ok. I'll add the menu update processor microde
"2 - Update CPU MicroCode 28 Sandy 6A7 for OC / 19 Ivy 6A9"

Zitat
Z87 : 326C113, 326C206
Z77 : 126C107, 126C208, 126C226, 126A308, 126A407, 126A507, 126A604, 126A628, 126A810

Why add the microcode from engineering CPU? They are not in the public domain.

For the X79 can not yet Add. Since we cannot find that catch, to correctly determine whether the BIOS for the X79.

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#147 | RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:58 am

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #160
@VirtualFred
I understood you. Just think how to answer, to make it clear. :)
Ok. Let us with examples.
GA-Z77X-UD5H I only found the BIOS F15q
Vol Ind
01 01 -> replace. Ok.
02:01:00 03 -> Delete "empty" module. Why??
03 02 ????

GA-Z77X-UD5H F16
I do not have your knowledge, I'm just sharing what I've tried with many Gigabyte boards, probably it's useless for you.
01 01 > Lot of space in this volume, put microcode only here is enough for Gigabyte motherboards (I don't know for other brands).
02 01 > Why keeping this one ? lol (Deleted cause it's useless and gives extra space), i don't understand why they put 2 µcode modules ?
03 02 > ? Nothing, unchanged.

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #160
Add:
Zitat
(i'm using 728 because users report lower OC with 729)

Ok. I'll add the menu update processor microde
"2 - Update CPU MicroCode 28 Sandy 6A7 for OC / 19 Ivy 6A9"

Thanks for Sandy overclockers :)

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #160
Z87 : 326C113, 326C206
Z77 : 126C107, 126C208, 126C226, 126A308, 126A407, 126A507, 126A604, 126A628, 126A810
Why add the microcode from engineering CPU? They are not in the public domain.

Because i didn't know they are only for ES CPU ! Gigabyte insert them (or older) in all public BIOS.
Maybe sometime overclockers may use ES CPU, and overclockers are frequently searching modified BIOS :).

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #160
For the X79 can not yet Add. Since we cannot find that catch, to correctly determine whether the BIOS for the X79.

What's the difference in X79 ?

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#148 | RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:53 pm (Last edited: Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:53 am)

@ VirtualFred
We do not understand why this "empty" module. But based on the results of tests on different motherboards, delete "empty" module is not critical to the operation of the system. So delete "empty" module is strictly personal. :)

Zitat von VirtualFred im Beitrag #161
Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #160
Z87 : 326C113, 326C206
Z77 : 126C107, 126C208, 126C226, 126A308, 126A407, 126A507, 126A604, 126A628, 126A810
Why add the microcode from engineering CPU? They are not in the public domain.
Because i didn't know they are only for ES CPU ! Gigabyte insert them (or older) in all public BIOS.
Maybe sometime overclockers may use ES CPU, and overclockers are frequently searching modified BIOS :)

I don't see a reason to adding the microcode engineering CPU. Because not all motherboards can support these CPUs. Let it be optional and individually at the request of the customer. :)

We cannot identify a common pattern for X79, to display in menu, what BIOS is exactly X79.

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#149 | RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:53 am (Last edited: Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:37 pm)

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag UBU 1.0.0 PR15
New UBU 1.0.0 PR15

Change:
1) Fixed bug minor
2) For Sandy overclockers add CPU microcode 28.

thank u sonix but where is download link ?!

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#150 | RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:55 am (Last edited: Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:38 pm)

Zitat von ErfanDL im Beitrag #144
thank u sonix but where is download link ?!

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