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#991 | RE: RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:45 pm

Zitat von dehx im Beitrag #1046
Theres no modification tools for intel bios?

Only some experts are able to modify your Intel BIOS.
If you are lucky, you may get an already modded BIOS, if you join >this< site and send a request.

Zitat
Do i even need to worry about this if i am using samsung evo 840's?

You will be able to use the SSD, but you may not get TRIM support within a RAID0 array (minimum 2 SSDs needed).

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#992 | RE: RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:35 pm

It's unfortunate that you got at 2014 an old X58 chipset motherboard which comes with old oROMs due to age and apart from that uses Intel's locked bioses. As Fernando said, you can try to ask for help at MyDigitalLife or Bios-Mods.

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#993 | RE: RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:31 pm

People explain plainly what reason to bring back the OROM and EFI modules IRST 13.1.0.2126?
I have integrated the latest version of IRST 13.5.0.2118 on motherboard Asus Z77V-LE Plus. Sata mode RAID10, OS Windovs 7, drivers v13.5.0.1056. Everything works.

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#994 | RE: RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:42 pm

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #1049
People explain plainly what reason to bring back the OROM and EFI modules IRST 13.1.0.2126?

The RST drivers of the v13.1 branch are the latest, which natively do fully support 7-Series Chipsets desktop systems.

Zitat
I have integrated the latest version of IRST 13.5.0.2118 on motherboard Asus Z77V-LE Plus. Sata mode RAID10, OS Windovs 7, drivers v13.5.0.1056. Everything works.

For a lot of users it is not enough, that the RAID driver/OROM combo works. They want the best possible performance and stability.

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#995 | RE: RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:47 am (Last edited: Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:14 am)

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #1049
People explain plainly what reason to bring back the OROM and EFI modules IRST 13.1.0.2126?
I have integrated the latest version of IRST 13.5.0.2118 on motherboard Asus Z77V-LE Plus. Sata mode RAID10, OS Windovs 7, drivers v13.5.0.1056. Everything works.

@SoniX

Hello SoniX! The latest IRST V.13.5.0.2118 works on your ASUS Z77V-LE Plus because you have a RAID system, infact as i said in a previous post for people using the storage on a RAID system there isn't any limitation of OROMs/IRST version even on older Intel chipset, so:

- AHCI storage drivers have a limited "support" in time,
- RAID storage system is a "little trick" to continue to update OROMs (with U.B.U) and associated drivers in time.

Thanks a lot for the re-added Intel IRST OROM and EFI RaidDriver V.13.1.0.2126 but i've seen that you have limited the OROMs update of the latest IRST V13.5.0.2118 only for the 8 and 9 series chipsets.

I think that if you want UBU to be an "universal updater" you have to remove this limitation because people with Intel 7 serie motherboards and storage on a RAID system may be interested to continue to have this possibility to benefit of OROMs/IRST updates.

Have a nice week-end!

Cheers,

KK

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#996 | RE: RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:07 am (Last edited: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:11 am)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #1050
The RST drivers of the v13.1 branch are the latest, which natively do fully support 7-Series Chipsets desktop systems.

The missing word here is AHCI support.

@SoniX

Z77 systems running in AHCI cannot be officially updated to v13.2 or up drivers (only up to 13.1). So for the latest drivers the "compatible" oROM is 13.1.0.2126. It does not mean that Z77 cannot be updated to v13.2 or later. If you do update to 13.5 and choose AHCI, you will install v13.1 drivers but, as Fernando said, the performance won't be "optimal". RAID (that you tested) is not an issue.

Basically:

Z77 AHCI --> Latest drivers v13.1.0.1058 (best mach would be oROM v13.1.0.2126)
Z77 RAID --> Latest oROM + Latest Drivers (still supported by Intel unlike AHCI)

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#997 | RE: RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:40 am (Last edited: Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:04 am)

As we all know that OROM and EFI modules IRST are not designed to work in AHCI mode, only RAID mode. For operation modes AHCI or RAID drivers can not even install. OS Win 7/8/8.1/10 itself can put your driver and all will work.
Also I do not see any reason to use modules OROM and EFI IRST v13.5.0.2118 on motherboards with 7 chipset. It will not bring any improvement. New modules are more optimized for the new chipsets, and not under the old.
What I wrote above, this is purely personal tests, after which he was made a rollback modules to version 12.9.0.2006, as the most optimal.

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#998 | RE: RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:19 am (Last edited: Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:46 am)

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #1054
As we all know that OROM and EFI modules IRST are not designed to work in AHCI mode, only RAID mode. For operation modes AHCI or RAID drivers can not even install. OS Win 7/8/8.1/10 itself can put your driver and all will work.
Also I do not see any reason to use modules OROM and EFI IRST v13.5.0.2118 on motherboards with 7 chipset. It will not bring any improvement. New modules are more optimized for the new chipsets, and not under the old.
What I wrote above, this is purely personal tests, after which he was made a rollback modules to version 12.9.0.2006, as the most optimal.

+1 Totally agree and many thanks for re-introduce 13.1.0.2126 in the new version.

Ghosearth.

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#999 | RE: RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:08 am (Last edited: Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:15 am)

- OROM VBIOS Haswell 1030
- EFI Intel GOP Driver v5.5.1025 (Haswell/Broadwell)

inside ASUS BIOS bellow:
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1...C-ASUS-2304.zip

(or any new Z97 ASUS BIOS updated 24/10/2014)

Z590/490/390 AORUS Master
Z370 AORUS Gaming 7,
GA-Z170X-SOC Force ,
GA-Z97X-SOC Force ,Core i7-4790K ,G.Skill F3-2933C12D-8GTXDG
2xSSD Corsair Force GS 128 (RAID 0), WD Caviar Black 1TB
Win 7 SP1 x64;Win 8.1 x64 ;Win 10 x64

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#1000 | RE: RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:06 am (Last edited: Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:21 am)

Zitat von plutomaniac im Beitrag #1053
Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #1050
The RST drivers of the v13.1 branch are the latest, which natively do fully support 7-Series Chipsets desktop systems.

The missing word here is AHCI support.

No, I didn't missed this word. All RAID users with an Intel chipset system from ICH8R up are able to get the newest Intel RAID drivers installed (because of the common external Intel SATA RAID Controller DeviceID DEV_2822), but they natively will not benefit from many features, which are implemented into the newest Intel RAID drivers and OROM/EFI RaidDriver modules (example: TRIM in RAID0 support).
Although the Intel RAID Controllers from ICH8R to Z97 chipsets have the same external DeviceID, they are different and have a different internal DeviceID.
For details please have a look into >this< explanation done by our Forum member CPL0 (aka Dufus).
EDIT:
By the way: CPL0 aka Dufus has developed a small sized tool named "SATA ID", which will show the specific "alternate" (= internal) DeviceID of all Intel SATA RAID Controllers (note: It will only work, when the Intel SATA Controller has been set to "RAID"). Unfortunately I could not find a working link to that tool, but I will post it, when I am back home.

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#1001 | RE: RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:22 am (Last edited: Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:24 am)

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #1054
OS Win 7/8/8.1/10 itself can put your driver and all will work.

Yes, but you can manually update them and benefit of performance and better stability or compatibility.

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #1054
Also I do not see any reason to use modules OROM and EFI IRST v13.5.0.2118 on motherboards with 7 chipset. It will not bring any improvement. New modules are more optimized for the new chipsets, and not under the old.
What I wrote above, this is purely personal tests, after which he was made a rollback modules to version 12.9.0.2006, as the most optimal.

Performance is the key...try old OROMs and IRST drivers in a RAID 0 setup and compare results with tests of OROMs V.13.5.0.2118 with IRST drivers V.13.5.x.xxxx and you'll see some grerat differences in numbers.

Cheers,

KK

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#1002 | RE: RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:03 pm

M.Fernando,

this is it :

SATA ID TOOL : https://mega.co.nz/#!JVUkxJIK!MnUYTCAk2f...wRTcIrVIFWoZjxo

Ghostearth.

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#1003 | RE: RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:24 pm

Zitat von ex58 im Beitrag #1056
- OROM VBIOS Haswell 1030
- EFI Intel GOP Driver v5.5.1025 (Haswell/Broadwell)

This is good news. It is a pity that is not yet available script files BSF for the correct transfer settings.

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#1004 | RE: RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:39 pm (Last edited: Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:51 pm)

Zitat von killkernel im Beitrag #1058

Performance is the key...try old OROMs and IRST drivers in a RAID 0 setup and compare results with tests of OROMs V.13.5.0.2118 with IRST drivers V.13.5.x.xxxx and you'll see some grerat differences in numbers.

Well. I do not use speed mode to RAID-0, since I'm more interested building arrays to store data in RAID-10 or RAID-5.
There are the results of testing modules IRST v13.1.0.2126 vs. v13.5.0.2118, in the mode RAID-0 on motherboards with the 7-series chipset?

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#1005 | RE: RE: [Discussions] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:44 pm

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #1061
Zitat von killkernel im Beitrag #1058

Performance is the key...try old OROMs and IRST drivers in a RAID 0 setup and compare results with tests of OROMs V.13.5.0.2118 with IRST drivers V.13.5.x.xxxx and you'll see some grerat differences in numbers.

Well. I do not use speed mode to RAID-0, since I'm more interested building arrays to store data in RAID-10 or RAID-5.
There are the results of testing modules IRST v13.1.0.2126 vs. v13.5.0.2118, in the mode RAID-0 on motherboards with the 7-series chipset?

I agree with you SoniX infact i use RAID 0 based on Intel chipset motherboard only for 2x128GB Samsung 830 (PC based on ASRock Z77 OC Formula) and 2x256GB Samsung 840 Pro (PC based on Gigabyte Z77X-UP5 TH) for the OSes, the RAID 10 that i use for stored data is managed by dedicated LSI controllers. ;)
Here Performance of the Intel RST/RSTe Drivers Fernando have tested RAID 0 of 2 SSDs until Intel RST(e) RAID driver v13.1.0.1058 WHQL (dated 05/28/2014) in combination with Intel RAID ROM v13.1.0.2126 but there aren't tests with OROMs V.13.5.0.2118 + IRST V.13.5.0.1056 WHQL.
As I have tested the latest OROMs with the latest IRST drivers with good results, i will search the screenshots and post them, if i don't find them i'll just make the tests as soon as I have the free time to do so.

Cheers,

KK

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