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#3361 | RE: [Discussion] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:22 am

BIOSes from Intel have their own UEFI structure, as well as a digital signature.

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#3362 | RE: [Discussion] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:43 am

@Sonix
Thanks for your reply. EMSISOFT does recognize a "false-positive" file detection and has done a specific update today.
After applying the update, automatically a proposal to un-quarantine the file is offered and a Yes reply does restaure the file at the original location. All is OK now.

ASUS Sabertooth X99/USB 3.1, W10 x64 21H2 NVMe i750, BIOS v4101, CPU Intel i7 5930K, 32GB DDR4, Asus GTX 1660TI 6GB DDR6
ASUS PRIME Z390M-Plus W11 x64 21H2 22000.194 NVMe 970 , BIOS v3004, 16GB DDR4, CPUs: Intel i3-8100 (4 cores) +UHD 630, i5-9400F (6 cores) +GTX 980.

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#3363 | RE: [Discussion] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:53 am

And that structure is not supported by UEFITool? But phoenixtool can read/write that structure?

I was aware of the digital signature. Is that only enforced when performing a flash update through the normal flashing software? Or is that checked every time the BIOS is loaded?

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#3364 | RE: [Discussion] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:36 am

@ gyrator
UBU uses MMTool and works only with BIOSes from AMI.
To work with BIOSes InsydeH2O, PhoenixSCT, Intel and others, they need their utilities. But I did not meet the utilities working on the command line.
Also, as far as I know, the digital signature in such BIOSes checks the integrity of the structure at the time the computer is started. Even if you modify the backup and use the programmer to flash it, you risk getting a brick.

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#3365 | RE: [Discussion] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:56 pm (Last edited: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:57 pm)

@scotter77
Since UBU offers menu item for microcode file selection I tried to select (several) bin-files from Intel, AMD & VIA CPU: Microcode Repositories but nothing ever happened after I selected a file (not even returned back to menu).
Have you succeeded with UBU modifying BIOS file with microcode bin-file from Intel, AMD & VIA CPU: Microcode Repositories?

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#3366 | RE: [Discussion] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:13 pm (Last edited: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:59 pm)

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #3365
@ gyrator
Also, as far as I know, the digital signature in such BIOSes checks the integrity of the structure at the time the computer is started. Even if you modify the backup and use the programmer to flash it, you risk getting a brick.

Oh that's what I was afraid of. I haven't finished my way through this monster thread but I was hoping it had a happy ending and someone figured out a way around that problem. What you've said makes me think it might just be impossible to mod the IRST OROM. Stuff that isn't digitally signed (like microcode) is okay to mod but not the OROMs. Not the news I want to hear but better I find that out *before* I desolder my chip

. I'll keep reading but now I have less hope.

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#3367 | RE: [Discussion] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:48 pm

@ gyrator
Perhaps there is a solution. You need to find out who managed to solve this issue for Intel's motherboard.

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#3368 | RE: [Discussion] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:36 pm (Last edited: Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:39 pm)

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #3368
@ gyrator
You need to find out who managed to solve this issue for Intel's motherboard.

From what I've seen so far, the answer is nobody. People have updated microcode in the DX58SO bios, but apparently that part is not digitally signed. I haven't seen anyone update an OROM. But like I said, I'll keep reading the thread at MDL. Thank you. And thanks for your work on UBU even if it isn't a help to me.

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#3369 | RE: [Discussion] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:47 pm (Last edited: Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:54 pm)

@mbk1969
yes Ive succeeded.
make sure the filename for the bin file matches the filename in the sel****.bat files in the Modules\mCode folder, rename it if not.

for Haswell example add
echo 23 Version 23 Date 20-11-2017 - Meltdown + Spectre Bios Fix

and further down the code add
if /I %ec%==23 (set mc2=1150\cpu000306C3_plat32_ver00000023_date20-11-2017.bin) && exit /b to my haswell sel1150.bat

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#3370 | RE: [Discussion] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:30 am (Last edited: Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:18 am)

@scotter77

Problem is you are talking about "2011v3" folder, but I need "2011" folder and looks like there is no bat-file for it in "mCode" folder.

Ok, I found that ffs-files inside "2011" folder are processed differently, so I can try to mimic the algorithm for bin-files in other subfolders

Update: So I was able to discover how UBU works with CPU microcode in bin-files, and to modify UBU bat-file accordingly, and to modify BIOS file, and to flash it to BIOS. So now I have HW support of BTI mitigation and mitigation enabled in Windows .

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#3371 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater Update v1.69.8 datum

Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:15 pm

hi everyone, I have updated my bios using UBU and get some issues.
overall procedure:
1- download bios file from Asus site
2- remove capsule by UEFITool
3- remove some OROM:
|138|DpcDxe |399CF3A7-82C7-4D9B-9123-DB11842986D3|0040BFA4|0008B9|DRVR|
|139|ArpDxe |8DD91798-EE87-4F0E-8A84-3F998311F930|0040C85D|002F59|DRVR|
|140|SnpDxe |3DD7A87B-D5BD-44AF-986F-2E13DB5D274C|0040F7B6|0037F9|DRVR|
|141|MnpDxe |C30B94E3-C8F2-4AB0-91AB-FA8DF621B1C9|00412FAF|00A779|DRVR|
|142|UefiPxeBcDxe |0EF8A3B1-388A-4B62-8BE6-C7877D50AEDF|0041D728|00D025|DRVR|
|143|NetworkStackSet|0029DE6A-E024-4EB8-A91D-9F23AA1F4E92|0042A74D|000BB9|DRVR|
|144|TcpDxe |B1625D3C-9D2D-4E0D-B864-8A763EE4EC50|0042B306|00BB59|DRVR|
|145|Dhcp4Dxe |8DD9176E-EE87-4F0E-8A84-3F998311F930|00436E5F|006F1D|DRVR|
|146|Ip4ConfigDxe |8F9296EF-2880-4659-B857-915A8901BDC8|0043DD7C|0047C5|DRVR|
|147|Ip4Dxe |8F92960F-2880-4659-B857-915A8901BDC8|00442541|008BD9|DRVR|
|148|Mtftp4Dxe |61AFA223-8AC8-4440-9AB5-762B1BF05156|0044B11A|0056BD|DRVR|
|149|Udp4Dxe |10EE5462-B207-4A4F-ABD8-CB522ECAA3A4|004507D7|005719|DRVR|
|150|Dhcp6Dxe |8DD9176D-EE87-4F0E-8A84-3F998311F930|00455EF0|00689D|DRVR|
|151|Ip6Dxe |8F92960E-2880-4659-B857-915A8901BDC8|0045C78D|010459|DRVR|
|152|Mtftp6Dxe |61AFA251-8AC8-4440-9AB5-762B1BF05156|0046CBE6|00565D|DRVR|
|153|Udp6Dxe |10EE54AE-B207-4A4F-ABD8-CB522ECAA3A4|00472243|0053D9|DRVR|
4- update Intel RST(e) OROM and EFI SateDriver, LAN OROM PXE and EFI UNDI, Intel CPU Microcode to latest version.
then flashed new bios via AfuWin. until this level every thing work so good whitout any issues.
5- update Intel OROM VBIOS and EFI GOP DRIVER
after update this drive i cant access to bios setting and every time that i turn on my laptop i get black screen until windows boot screen will apear. I attache my original and moded bis files.
https://mega.nz/#!u8JEQJrC!-A7FuifF2xKWT...vQ6cOVka79oQyZk
please if you could help me. thanks

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#3372 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater Update v1.69.8 datum

Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:42 pm

@rafigh89:
Welcome to the Win-RAID Forum!

Since the other thread is reserved for SoniX's announcements of new UBU versions or updates, I have moved your post into this "UBU Discussion" thread.
I am pretty sure, that you will get a reply to your report from SoniX or someone else, who knows more about this topic than me.

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#3373 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater Update v1.69.8 datum

Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:28 pm (Last edited: Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:29 pm)

@rafigh89

I am pretty sure UBU was created specially for desktop systems. Here is disclaimer in first page of UBU:

The UBU tool has been designed and optimized for the modification of Desktop mainboard BIOSes. According the feedback we got until now the usage of the tool with Desktop mainboard UEFI BIOSes is very safe.
Nevertheless it is possible, but only recommended for advanced users, to update some modules of a Mobile system BIOS (except the VGA ROM!) by using the UBU tool. For further details please read >this< post written by plutomaniac.

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#3374 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater Update v1.69.8 datum

Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:25 pm

This could have something to do with the graphics vbios in case you boot in non uefi modus.

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#3375 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater Update v1.69.8 datum

Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:33 pm (Last edited: Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:33 pm)

Zitat von Maison1 im Beitrag #3375
This could have something to do with the graphics vbios in case you boot in non uefi modus.

Boot UEFI modus is about Windows - whether it is installed to boot in UEFI mode. BIOS itself is UEFI. It has CSM but still it is UEFI always. And guy was talking about inability to enter BIOS setup.

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