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#2686 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater v1.60 datum

Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:17 am (Last edited: Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:13 am)

@SoniX:
Thanks for having tested the function of different Intel RAID module versions with your Z87 system.

I have just done some very similar tests with my ASRock Z170 system.
At first I have flashed the previously mentioned modded BIOS containing the Intel RAID ROM v11.2.0.1527 (inserted by the UEFITool) and the Intel EFI RaidDriver v12.9.0.2006 (inserted by the UBU tool). After having connected my already existing RAID0 array and done the required BIOS settings, I got the following results:
None of the inserted Intel RAID BIOS modules worked. In LEGACY mode the Intel RAID ROM Utility v11.2.0.1527 didn't flash up and was not available by hitting CTRL+I. After having set the BIOS OROM options to "UEFI", I couldn't see any "Intel Rapid Storage Technology" option within the UEFI BIOS.
That means, that the Intel RAID ROM/EFI modules of the v11 and v12 line seem to be not usable with my Z170 system.

Additionally I have tested something else:
Since I wanted to know whether it is possible to get the Intel RST RAID driver v11.2.0.1006 installed at all onto my Z170 RAID system, I had prepared a Win10 x64 v1607 image, where I had removed the in-box Intel RST(e) RAID driver v13.2.0.1022 and inserted the Intel RST RAID driver v11.2.0.1006 according to >this< guide.
Result: The system started booting off the USB Flash drive, but gave me always a BSOD with the error message, that the BSOD has been caused by the file named iaStor.sys.
So it really seems to be impossible to use the by far best performant Intel RST driver v11.2.0.1006 with an Intel 100-Series chipset.

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#2687 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater v1.60 datum

Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:56 am (Last edited: Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:58 am)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #2685
Meanwhile I have checked it again and and found out, that I had replaced the Intel EFI RaidDriver to v12.9.0.2006 (and not to v13.2.0.2134).

Ah, now that makes more sense. Anything before 13.x might not be allowed on than platform or not work due to incompatibilities.

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #2685
I contacted the ASRock Technical Support and asked for the reason why the inserted Intel RAID modules didn't work for me, and they answered: "The usage of older Intel RAID ROM/EFI BIOS modules has been blocked by ASRock for security purposes".

I see two possible cases here: a) either that's true or b) it's an excuse provided by the support team to deal with the question quickly. Either way, we will have a proper answer only if we determine that 12.x or 11.x modules can be loaded at other 9-series systems. If they can, it's an ASRock limitation, otherwise a platform one.

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #2685
I have just done some very similar tests with my ASRock Z170 system.

Well I think that makes sense. All these versions are years before SKL was released. For example, that 11.2 module must be around 3 years older compared to 100-series. Even if it was allowed to work, it would probably not support a lot of new platform features or be unstable/untested. I can see the reason behind using newer modules/drivers at older systems (15.x at 8-series for example) but not the other way around. I'm talking about RAID here were performance and especially stability is very important. The AHCI counterpart (drivers) doesn't really matter as long as RST is used and not stock MS drivers, your various tests and guides have proven that.

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#2688 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater v1.60 datum

Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:26 am (Last edited: Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:54 am)

Unfortunately I do not have the opportunity to purchase a motherboard 9 and 100 chipsets to conduct more tests.
At the moment I only have 2 motherboard Asus Z87-PLUS, on it I checked the work OROM and UEFI FIRST.
The second board Asus P8Z77-V LE Plus, now check up on it, the following results:
All version OROM and EFI IRST 11.x - 13.1.0.2126 - initialized and working.
All version OROM and EFI IRST 13.2.0.2134 and above - not initialized and not working.

OROM 11.2 + 9 and 100 chiosets. I think that it should not work due to the chipset features, such as support NVMe, SATA Express.
About 8th chipset agree with plutomaniac, it's period support (2-3 year) Or all the same, too, have the features of the chipset.

Added:

Guys, that I do not understand. OROM and EFI IRST version 13.2 for sure should not work on the 6th and 7th chipsets?
It seems there was information that the work on the 7th chipset OROM and EFI 13.2 and 13.5 , and I was quite confused.

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#2689 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater v1.60 datum

Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:56 am

The easiest way to tell when Intel drops support is to check their AHCI drivers. For 7-series that happened at 13.1 and for 6-series at 12.9. I think people have used newer EFI/OROM modules at 7-series after 13.1 with success. So I'm not sure why anything above 13.2 does not even initialize at your Asus Z77 system. I also have a Z77 from Gigabyte but cannot do any tests these days.

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#2690 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater v1.60 datum

Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:14 am (Last edited: Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:32 am)

I had an idea to make IRST menu, in UBU, so that the conclusions are not all versions, as now, but only those which are supported by a specific chipset.
If 8, 9, 100, everything is clear, then 6 and 7 which OROM and EFI allowed.

Added:
Okay, I leave everything as it is. Each user can decide which version to use.

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#2691 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater v1.61 datum

Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:17 am (Last edited: Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:35 am)

great job thanks!!!:)

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#2692 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater v1.61 datum

Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:39 am (Last edited: Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:46 am)

Q: How to update the OROM and EFI IRST different versions at the same time? (Aptio 4)
A: Drag the files you want OROM and EFI in the folder "Modules\IRST\User" and update.

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#2693 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater v1.61 datum

Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:40 am

yeah i figured it out thx, brain fart. just got home from work and my eyes are tired! :P

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#2694 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater v1.60 datum

Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:44 am

Zitat von SoniX im Beitrag #2689
Guys, that I do not understand. OROM and EFI IRST version 13.2 for sure should not work on the 6th and 7th chipsets?
It seems there was information that the work on the 7th chipset OROM and EFI 13.2 and 13.5 , and I was quite confused.

According to my own tests done with a Z68 and Z77 RAID0 system all Intel RAID ROM versions from 11.2. up to 13.5 and all Intel EFI RaidDriver modules v12 and v13 definitively work with 6- and 7-Series Chipset RAID systems (for details look >here<).

By the way: The Intel RST RAID driver v13.2.0.1022 is the DEFAULT Win10 in-box driver for all Intel RAID systems from ICH8R up and the Intel RST(e) RAID driver v13.2.4.1000 runs fine and very performant with Intel 6- and 7-Series Chipset systems. So it is not easy to understand why Intel hasn't added the HardwareIDs of their 6- and 7-Series SATA AHCI Controllers into the related iaAHCIC.inf files of the v13.1 and v13.2 drivers.

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#2695 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater v1.61 datum

Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:49 am

@f3bandit:
Please post your UBU related comments or questions into this UBU discussion thread. The other UBU thread is reserved for the guide and SoniX's announcements of a new UBU version.

Zitat von f3bandit im Beitrag #2692
great job thanks!!!:)

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#2696 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater v1.61 datum

Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:07 am (Last edited: Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:34 am)

Please, I have a Z170 Deluxe, but i can not able to update all modules.
Can anyone upgrade lastest modules please?

I have 100 Series chipset.
BIOS Z170 DELUXE 1902

Thanks for your work.
Regards from Spain.

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/6797240169

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#2697 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater v1.61 datum

Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:40 am

Zitat von el_zari im Beitrag #2697
Please, I have a Z170 Deluxe, but i can not able to update all modules.
Can anyone upgrade lastest modules please?

We do not modify BIOSes upon request.
All really important module updates of Z170 mainboard BIOSes can be done by using the UBU tool.
If you want the latest Option ROM updates as well (not needed at all, if you are running your OS in UEFI mode), you have to do it manually by using CodeRush's UEFI tool.

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MB: ASRock X570 Pro4, CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, System Drive: 500 GB Samsung 980 Pro, Graphics: Sapphire Radeon RX570, OS: Win10 x64 Pro
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#2698 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater v1.61 datum

Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:05 am (Last edited: Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:36 am)

PLease, I want to update only OROM VBIOS SKL-KBL- 1045, but not success. Z170-Deluxe

Any ideas?

Thanks again.

Regards.

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#2699 | RE: UEFI BIOS Updater v1.61 datum

Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:03 am

Zitat von el_zari im Beitrag #2699
PLease, I want to update only OROM VBIOS SKL-KBL- 1045, but not success. Z170-Deluxe

The UBU tool cannot update the Option ROM modules of AMI Aptio V BIOSes due to a bug of the related AMI Aptio UEFI MMTool.
That is why you have to do it manually by using CodeRushs UEFITool.
Why do you want to update the Intel VGA Option ROM (VBIOS)? Option ROM modules of the BIOS will only be used, if you are booting into your OS in LEGACY mode, and I cannot imagine any reason why you do that with your Z170 system.

Zitat
Any ideas?

Possible solutions:
a) Disable CSM within the BIOS (easiest way) or
b) Update the VBIOS manually by using the UEFITool

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#2700 | RE: [Discussion] UBU Tool related Questions, Reports and Suggestions datum

Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:06 pm

As many ask for updated Z170 Deluxe bios, I'll post it in proper section.

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