Please show me image of BIOS Main page, thanks

I have not touched security page during any of this, but don't worry, I will get to it shortly and all will be selectable to you
BIOS Password will only cause you problems down the road, or future user (ie you are giving this away)
So you wont be able to enter it later on, then next guy in BIOS is stuck - ignore it's for kids, think about the next guy trying to reset the BIOS or fix/change something for someone etc
At least 15+ people a month are here, much more on other forums, needing BIOS password removed so they can fix a machine for someone, or to make changes in their newly obtained used system etc.
It's a major pain, hassle, and huge issue for anyone after you, so I again advise you do not set BIOS passwords

OK, I'll leave DVMT option to 256

Thanks for your suggestions!

In this case, were all machines going to the same place/school, I'd a lot of problems on beginning NOT using Supervisor Passwords for the BOS's! Only, after I change that, means placing Password for the BIOS's that changed and since I didn't have problems with those machines regarding the BIOS! B believe me, I really know what I'm talking about in this case! I usually handle the coming software problems with remote control (RAdmin) because that school is 170km away from my home/office! For problems with BIOS, I could not use RAdmin, I have to be on the machine physically!

Maybe you could set the DVM for 128MB and 256MB? If not just leave it by 256MB only.

Sorry for maybe late answer, because I was going sleep more early last night. I'm at GMT +7H while at least the Win-Raid server is on a different Time Zone (Europe I believe?)!

Thanks a lot and Cheers!

I hear ya, just feel sorry for the next owners after that, or anyone trying to fix the BIOS for the kids later

You can set the DVMT yourself, I only was talking about adding option value of 384, instead of 128, 256, you'd have 128, 256, 384.

Please show me image of BIOS Main page, after flashing BIOS at post #29, thanks

There no next owner! I'm the only person who has the power of doing anything on the machines I gave to the school! If there would be anything the school has to give back them to me! Let say it this way: The school used those machines for free as long as they want and/or need. They are didn't pay any Satang (Cent) for the machines, neither software, service, or whatsoever!

OK, here 2 pics: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...123257981793353 about the Information and Main. Need anything more?

Thanks for your work and Cheers.

You never know what happens in a few years
Maybe even you forget or loose password, trust me it's a pain you do not want later. Most who help you fix that issue would charge $$ to give you the pass or remove it
Thanks for the image, no, nothing more needed now. I will do rest of unlock right now

Thanks and I understand your concern very well. But be assured, such data are very well saved and will be available if I'm not in order to do my work!

Ok, I'll wait for the final now.

Thanks a lot and Cheers

@Quaxth - Here, please note, if you are logged in BIOS as Supervisor or User, is normally what controls if you can set Super/User password.
I never changed logged in user access level, nor can you in mod like this, except by changing boot mode maybe, I think Secure Boot would make you supervisor, or really you should already be!?!?
Anyway, I will be making this setting visible, so you can set just this and NOT password, if you wanted >> User Access Level << This has "View Only" option

I found this "text" explanation of each in an Asus BIOS for you, should be similar application any BIOS >>

""If ONLY the Administrator's password is set, this only limits access to Setup and is only asked for when entering Setup.
If ONLY the User's password is set, this is a power on password and must be entered to boot to enter Setup.
In Setup the User will have Administrator rights.""

Since this system has power on password option too, not sure how that applies/ties in with above (ie User Password would be same) << So, maybe that is why you could not set user password, you already enabled power on password?
Anyway, once I'm done, let me know what exactly you want changed in Security. I will be revealing the clear user password option too, you will have to test how easy that is (if it asks for the pass or not etc)
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...164218221238206

Thanks for that explanation.
In real, I need only the Supervisor Password to be able to set and use, not any other possibility and/or Password for something else. Simply means: the BIOS Setup could only be opened with one (they Supervisor) Password.

You see, as I was starting to deliver the first machines to the School, I wasn't using any Password for the BIOS! And the mess was coming shortly after, and I'd like to spend a lot of time and also money for each 340km round trip to solve that problem! I then started an added to each machine the Supervisor Password: Problem solved!

So, what I need is just the possibility to set the Supervisor Password! There should be no User/Power ON/HDD or whatsoever another possibility to set any password!

So, before I use the latest (Final) Bios, and you'd opened any other Password except the Supervisor Password, I'll not install the last built above. If you already opened such other password, please remove them, just leave the Supervisor password open for to be used.

Thanks a lot for your understanding.

You're welcome! I wonder what kids could do in a limited BIOS to begin with, that would mess something up?
Please flash the BIOS above, take an image of security page, and show me what you want hidden, and what you want shown, circle in paint.
I did what you asked, you said you wanted to be able to set Super and User, on page two. Please clarify in an image after you flash the above BIOS, that will be much easier for me

I'll do that later because I've to leave for about 5-6hour for some meeting now.

And just to tell, normally, by setting the Supervisor Password the BIOS is locked and could only open with that password. but, in the meantime, I was reading some websites about BIOS Password and saw that there some ways with 'special' hotkey combos, that some BIOS could still be opened if had some other password as well. As a precaution, I changed my mind to allow only Supervisor passwords.

Ok, I'll back in the (Thailand) Evening and install and check that later BIOS too.

Cheers.

OK, no worries, no rush from me!

Normal people would not be able to find or use those hotkeys, very rare cases and only by people that really know.
I doubt kids would find a way, and I doubt such is possible on older/cheaper machines like this.

What I would suggest, at least in any Insyde BIOS case like this, is to use the setting I mentioned instead, User Access Level >> Set to View Only.
Then the only way around that would be via BIOS mod, or relfashing NVRAM variables via DOS/Shell etc, which I doubt kids would waste time sorting out how to do

I'm back now, and had downloaded and installed the Final Mod of the BIOS already!
Everything is just working fine! No need to create another Mod!

Tomorrow I'll do the final setup of that machine with Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit and all required Software App, like MS Office, PHP, Python, Apache, and others. A special installation will be RAdmin Server, totally invisible for the user, so I could monitor how the machine is used. That's done with all of the machines the school has from me already on working. There fore I also know that some of the kids are really trying to hacking into the system of the machine and their BIOS's, as well as to other machines on LAN and Internet!
Never underestimate what kids are able to do!! And they are learning much faster as we older people doing! That is not bad at all, it's just the normal way of life is going special for kind as they are growing up! We all were the same in the past of our life, so we should look to ourselves first before judging!

And I also ordered already a CH341A complete Programmer Set for THB 262.00 which is about US$ 8,51!! Will arrive from China until Nov. 25. 2020!

Thanks a lot again and hope you had a great weekend.
Cheers.

Ok, enough about that. I've to say a big Thank You Very Much to you for your work patient with me!

@Quaxth - OK, well, I thought maybe you'd want something hidden again at Security page, that's why I said take an image and circle what you want hidden.
Ohh, yes, I know what you mean about kids, and they learn a lot and quick these days! It's because they are basically born with cellphone and tablet now

Great you have programmer set on the way, everyone that messes with BIOS should have a set, it's too cheap not to. You should also get 1.8v adapter, some newer systems have 1.8v chip, not a whole lot right now but I'm sure it will be more common in the future too.

You're very welcome!! Thank you too, for being patient with me and testing as I work!
I prefer to do things in small steps sometimes, so I don't have to work backwards and try to find the cause of issues, but I bet you figured that out already. Sometimes I will do all at once, if I already know more about the BIOS than I did on this one

This is the CH341A Programmer Set I ordered: https://i.postimg.cc/dV2Jwzg1/Main-Off-32.png and it has the 1.8V included. I use Lazada and/or Shopee Thailand to order and buy because using both I could pay COD! It depends on the country of origin how long the delivery takes, could be up to 20days. Even if I could get something locally, those mainly more expensive instead of using that 2 Delivers, the local prices could be up to even more than double!

The final BIOS in the last build is ok and working in all aspects. Good Job was done by you!! I'm now installing all the needed App and will bring it together with a few Laser Printer to Pattaya on Wednesday or Thursday. Those Laser Printers I was getting for free after a Write-Off from a local company and they are still in a quite good condition.

The next one will be the Aspire 4745G, I'm just waiting for the replacement parts to fix the Motherboard. Those should come in the next week, hopefully. It would be the first time to exchange the Memory Sockets, never done that before. It's a double holder socket and one is a malfunction, could use max 4GB of Memory (2 x 2GB or 1 x 4GB, 2 x 4GB did not work!). And also the speed of the MB is slow, if I use 2 x 2GB, if I use 1 x 4GB in the good socket, the speed is normal. So it should be the Double Holder Socket. Or you think otherwise?

Thanks a lot for your hard and good work.

Cheers.

@Quaxth - I agree, for stuff like this, unless it's an emergency, I order cheap and wait out long shipping too
Nice, that kit has spring adapter for off board chips too

Thanks for feedback last/final one is OK, I will toss out all previous ones now and keep only that for anyone that needs later.

Good luck changing out the memory slots, I've never done those before either! Yes, best to have dual channel if possible!
If you can detect memory in both slots, when using both, or swapping one to another by itself, then slot is OK.