GIGABYTE 965P-DQ6 ICH8R SSD issue under Win10

#1 | GIGABYTE 965P-DQ6 ICH8R SSD issue under Win10 datum

Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:33 pm

Hi all,

I recently upgraded my system with SSDs
I took the opportunity to upgrade my OS from Win7 to Win10 as well.

The system is based on a GIGABYTE 965P-DQ6 with ICH8R and a modded BIOS with updated OROM V8.5.0.1030
I have 3 SSDs setup in a Striped configuration.
Windows 10 has been unstable from day one, even the setup ran quite slow.
The system is running with windows built in driver.
I tried to install several original intel drivers but the system just becomes unbootable under Windows 10 after installing RST, I have to revert the driver to the original OEM from windows using DISM.

I tried to mod my BIOS and upgrade my OROM to the recommended v11.2.0.1527 but my Motherboard doesn't seem to like it and the module does not load.

Do you have any suggestions? Either a driver that I can use or a way to make v11.2.0.1527 work in my system or both?

Help is highly appreciated, thank you very much.

Regards

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#2 | RE: GIGABYTE 965P-DQ6 ICH8R SSD issue under Win10 datum

Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:20 am

Still struggling with this.. any help is appreciated.
Thank you

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#3 | RE: GIGABYTE 965P-DQ6 ICH8R SSD issue under Win10 datum

Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:35 am (Last edited: Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:26 am)

@zone2097 - Did you ever test installing Intel drivers during OS Install, where you choose disk target, and test to see if they work better than Microcosoft ones, before you do anything else
On the BIOS mod, maybe you did the mod wrong, when you tried to put in orom v11? Or, maybe it's too large? Where do you see this is suggested and compatible version to use for 965P?

You do have the 3 SSD connected to SATA_0-SATA_2 yellow, correct? If not, move them to those ports, best to use SATA_0-4/5 first for HDD/SSD, and the leave SATA_5 for CD/DVD, when possible.
When you did you test edit inserting V11 orom, did you mind the sensitive modules? If not, what cbrom version did you use, and was the BIOS bootable, just no RAID Rom loaded?

@Fernando - Before I do anything to a BIOS, I see you do recommend 11.2.0.1527 for ICH7-10R here, is that always the best choice and is always compatible, or would v10.1.0.1008 possibly be a better choice here?
If he did the mod correctly, and module is not loading, this means 11.2 was too large, so 10.x probably better choice. I'm not looking at either file now, so unsure of sizes of any of these as I reply, but I do remember that symptom being too large of a rom so it does not load

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#4 | RE: GIGABYTE 965P-DQ6 ICH8R SSD issue under Win10 datum

Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:08 am

@Lost_N_BIOS:
According to my own tests the Intel RAID ROM v11.2.0.1527 in combination with the Intel RST RAID driver v11.2.0.1006 is the best choice for old Intel RAID systems (up to 100-Series chipsets).
Unfortunately the BIOS of some old Intel chipset mainboards is not able to load any Option ROM module, whose size exceeds 100 KB. Such big sized ROM modules cannot be loaded while booting. For details look >here<.

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#5 | RE: GIGABYTE 965P-DQ6 ICH8R SSD issue under Win10 datum

Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:22 pm (Last edited: Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:23 pm)

@Fernando - Thanks, I thought I remembered some old BIOS do have issue with larger roms. I've tested that myself and hit this issue even on X58 and P35 in testing for some users sometimes
I bet that is what happened here with his mod attempt, will have to wait on him to reply back about what cbrom he used, and then he can also just directly do same edit again but use smaller 85KB 10.1.0.1008_TRIM mod rom instead.

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#6 | RE: GIGABYTE 965P-DQ6 ICH8R SSD issue under Win10 datum

Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:02 pm (Last edited: Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:23 pm)

Hi Lost and Fernando and thank you very much for your replies

To answer to your questions @Lost_N_BIOS:

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #3
Did you ever test installing Intel drivers during OS Install, where you choose disk target, and test to see if they work better than Microcosoft ones,

I didn't actually test this during installation but does it matter now that the system is installed?

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #3
before you do anything elseOn the BIOS mod, maybe you did the mod wrong, when you tried to put in orom v11? Or, maybe it\'s too large? Where do you see this is suggested and compatible version to use for 965P?You do have the 3 SSD connected to SATA_0-SATA_2 yellow, correct? If not, move them to those ports, best to use SATA_0-4/5 first for HDD/SSD, and the leave SATA_5 for CD/DVD, when possible.When you did you test edit inserting V11 orom, did you mind the sensitive modules?

v11.2.0.1527 is suggested on this topic at the end of section 1 where it states this: best choice for Intel ICH7R/8R/9R/10R Chipset RAID systems (matching RAID driver: Intel RST v11.2.0.1006), best performant ROM for all RAID0 users.
SSDs are connected to the first 3 yellow slots. I used exactly the same procedure for orom v11 as I did for v8.5, tried several OROMs and everything above v8.5 does not work. (i.e. system posts but rom module is not loaded)

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #3
If not, what cbrom version did you use, and was the BIOS bootable, just no RAID Rom loaded?

I used CBROM 1.55 as suggested in this post for Gigabyte Award Bios Motherboards. system posts and can boot to other devices but ICH8R rom is not loaded and devices connected to it are not detected.

At the moment I do not have access to the system, only later in the afternoon, I can try v10.1.0.1008 TRIM, but I think I recall trying the unmodded version some time ago with no luck. Could it be that the limit is 65KB and not 100KB on this motherboard?
I can also try to make a clean install loading the driver during setup but probably not until tomorrow.

EDIT by Fernando: Unneeded blank lines removed (for better readability and to save space)

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#7 | RE: GIGABYTE 965P-DQ6 ICH8R SSD issue under Win10 datum

Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:43 pm

@zone2097:

Zitat von zone2097 im Beitrag #6
Could it be that the limit is 65KB and not 100KB on this motherboard?

You may be absolutely right.
After having done a Google Search for the "Intel RAID ROM v8.5.0.1030" I found >here<, what I had written more than 6 years ago:

Zitat von Fernando
Download links:
>Intel MSM RAID ROM v8.5.0.1030< (>MIRROR<)
Here is a slightly modified variant of this Intel MSM RAID ROM module:[ul]
>"Universally TRIM modified" Intel MSM RAID ROM v8.5.0.1030 with TRIM in RAID0 support< (>MIRROR<)
Note: This modded OROM is designed for SSD-RAID0 users with an Intel P35 Express chipset, which doesn't properly work with any Intel RAID ROM bigger sized than 64KB. Thanks to yesgrey for having tested it. >Here< is his report.

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#8 | RE: GIGABYTE 965P-DQ6 ICH8R SSD issue under Win10 datum

Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:43 pm

@zone2097 - It may or may not matter, about the driver install pre-OS install, just tossing out things for you to try if you had not yet.
You said everything about 8.5 didn't work, but then you said you will try 10.x, so you did not try 10.x previously??

Thanks, so 1.55 was OK and BIOS was bootable, good to know. Did you mind the sensitive modules, or just do /pci filename.bin?
Yes, maybe in some cases 64KB may be the limit, but I would test 10.x on your system first to be 100% sure. Then if still no RAID, do the 8.5_TRIM insert and see if all OK then

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#9 | RE: GIGABYTE 965P-DQ6 ICH8R SSD issue under Win10 datum

Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:02 pm (Last edited: Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:53 pm)

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@Lost_N_BIOS I was not sure if I had tried 10.5 before as I had tried several versions.
Today I've tried v10.5 with TRIM unsuccessfully.

I did mind the MINIT module, is there any other module I should care about? You can find the CBROM displays for original gigabyte and modded
original with 10.5 below as well as HxD prints with MINIT locations.

I see some value changes after the MINIT is this relevant? v8.5 has different values from the original as well but works.

@Fernando I recall seeing the F6 drivers somewhere on the forum but I've searched the whole afternoon and could not find them.. Do you remember where I can get these?

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CBROM_155.EXE V1.55 [10/12/05 Release] (C)Phoenix Technologies 2001-2005
 
              ********  965PDQ6.F13 BIOS component ********
 
 No. Item-Name         Original-Size   Compressed-Size Original-File-Name 
================================================================================  0. System BIOS       20000h(128.00K)14D5Ah(83.34K)965pdq6.BIN
  1. XGROUP CODE       0F200h(60.50K)0A9C4h(42.44K)awardext.rom
  2. ACPI table        04C79h(19.12K)018CBh(6.20K)ACPITBL.BIN
  3. EPA LOGO          0168Ch(5.64K)0030Dh(0.76K)AwardBmp.bmp
  4. GROUP ROM[18]     027F0h(9.98K)01B49h(6.82K)ggroup.bin
  5. YGROUP ROM        0BB70h(46.86K)05839h(22.06K)awardeyt.rom
  6. GROUP ROM[ 0]     07720h(29.78K)02D01h(11.25K)_EN_CODE.BIN
  7. PCI ROM[A]        0F400h(61.00K)0955Ah(37.34K)ICH8RAID.BIN
  8. PCI ROM[B]        04000h(16.00K)02B46h(10.82K)AHCI.bin
  9. PCI ROM[C]        07A00h(30.50K)04479h(17.12K)JMB59.BIN
 10. PCI ROM[D]        0DA00h(54.50K)08579h(33.37K)8056B0.lom
 11. LOGO1 ROM         00B64h(2.85K)00520h(1.28K)dbios.bmp
 12. LOGO BitMap       4B30Ch(300.76K)06F80h(27.88K)DQ6.BMP
 13. GV3                0182Dh(6.04K)00AA8h(2.66K)PPMINIT.ROM
 14. OEM0 CODE         02F0Ch(11.76K)021B9h(8.43K)DBF.BIN
 15. OEM2 CODE         01000h(4.00K)00079h(0.12K)AFSC_HDR.ROM
 16. MINIT             07800h(30.00K)0782Ch(30.04K)ME_MRC.BIN
 
  Total compress code space  = 67000h(412.00K)
  Total compressed code size = 557B1h(341.92K)
  Remain compress code space = 1184Fh(70.08K)
 
                          ** Micro Code Information **
Update ID  CPUID  |  Update ID  CPUID  |  Update ID  CPUID  |  Update ID  CPUID
------------------+--------------------+--------------------+-------------------
 

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CBROM_155.EXE V1.55 [10/12/05 Release] (C)Phoenix Technologies 2001-2005
 
              ******** 965PDQ6_MOD.F13 BIOS component ********
 
 No. Item-Name         Original-Size   Compressed-Size Original-File-Name 
================================================================================  0. System BIOS       20000h(128.00K)14D5Ah(83.34K)965pdq6.BIN
  1. XGROUP CODE       0F200h(60.50K)0A9C4h(42.44K)awardext.rom
  2. ACPI table        04C79h(19.12K)018CBh(6.20K)ACPITBL.BIN
  3. EPA LOGO          0168Ch(5.64K)0030Dh(0.76K)AwardBmp.bmp
  4. GROUP ROM[18]     027F0h(9.98K)01B49h(6.82K)ggroup.bin
  5. YGROUP ROM        0BB70h(46.86K)05839h(22.06K)awardeyt.rom
  6. GROUP ROM[ 0]     07720h(29.78K)02D01h(11.25K)_EN_CODE.BIN
  7. PCI ROM[B]        04000h(16.00K)02B46h(10.82K)AHCI.bin
  8. PCI ROM[C]        07A00h(30.50K)04479h(17.12K)JMB59.BIN
  9. PCI ROM[D]        0DA00h(54.50K)08579h(33.37K)8056B0.lom
 10. LOGO1 ROM         00B64h(2.85K)00520h(1.28K)dbios.bmp
 11. LOGO BitMap       4B30Ch(300.76K)06F80h(27.88K)DQ6.BMP
 12. GV3                0182Dh(6.04K)00AA8h(2.66K)PPMINIT.ROM
 13. OEM0 CODE         02F0Ch(11.76K)021B9h(8.43K)DBF.BIN
 14. OEM2 CODE         01000h(4.00K)00079h(0.12K)AFSC_HDR.ROM
 15. MINIT             07800h(30.00K)0782Ch(30.04K)ME_MRC.BIN
 16. PCI ROM[A]        1DC00h(119.00K)10EE1h(67.72K)ICH8RAID.BIN
 
  Total compress code space  = 67000h(412.00K)
  Total compressed code size = 5D138h(372.30K)
  Remain compress code space = 09EC8h(39.70K)
 
                          ** Micro Code Information **
Update ID  CPUID  |  Update ID  CPUID  |  Update ID  CPUID  |  Update ID  CPUID
------------------+--------------------+--------------------+-------------------
 

Original Gigabyte ROM

Modded from Original with v10511070_TRIM

Backup currently running with v8501030_TRIM

EDIT by Fernando: Put the CBROM output into "spoilers" (to save space)

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#10 | RE: GIGABYTE 965P-DQ6 ICH8R SSD issue under Win10 datum

Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:43 pm

@zone2097 - You're supposed to try 10.1.0.1008 w/ TRIM, not 10.5 that one is too large = same as 11.x - Sorry if my mention of 10.x directly above confused you, I was in a rush and didn't have time to scroll back up to my original reply to see correct smaller 10.1.x version
Minit, GV3 and MeminitEntrypoint (x2 locations) should remain same always, same start offset and same module #, if that matters in this BIOS, which it most likely does.
However, maybe not in this case, due to your 10.5 test above, if this is bootable then maybe no sensitive modules here since that likely moved them all.
Cbrom is of zero use for checking mod BIOS, unless you really break something, or you just wanted to check module order #

Try 10.1.0.1008 now and see how you get along

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#11 | RE: GIGABYTE 965P-DQ6 ICH8R SSD issue under Win10 datum

Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:55 pm

Zitat von zone2097 im Beitrag #9
@Fernando I recall seeing the F6 drivers somewhere on the forum but I've searched the whole afternoon and could not find them.. Do you remember where I can get these?

Which sort of F6 drivers do you mean?

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#12 | RE: GIGABYTE 965P-DQ6 ICH8R SSD issue under Win10 datum

Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:03 pm

@Fernando - Pre-Install MSM/RST drivers for Win10 + ICH8R

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#13 | RE: GIGABYTE 965P-DQ6 ICH8R SSD issue under Win10 datum

Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:11 pm

@zone2097:
To avoid the usage of the Win10 in-box Intel RST RAID driver v15.44.0.1015 I recommend to load the Intel RST driver v11.2.0.1006 WHQL.

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