ICH10R & RST 13.2.4.1000 Single SSD TRIM Support

#1 | ICH10R & RST 13.2.4.1000 Single SSD TRIM Support datum

Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:04 pm

Hello i got a single SSd and two Hd in Raid 0 running on a ICH10R with RST 13-2-4-1000 Driver. My Problem is that it seems like TRI isn´t workig with the single ssd drive. The Driver that the ssd is using is iastorA.sys. Any suggestions ?

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#2 | RE: ICH10R & RST 13.2.4.1000 Single SSD TRIM Support datum

Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:57 pm

@ Voigoth:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!

Questions:

Which Intel RAID ROM version is within your mainboard BIOS?
Which OS are you running?
How did you check the TRIM support?

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Fernando

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#3 | RE: ICH10R & RST 13.2.4.1000 Single SSD TRIM Support datum

Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:22 am (Last edited: Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:23 am)

I am at work right now so i can just name the board i am using. I will look up the Rom Version later.

I got an ASUS P5QD Turbo.
I am running Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
I checked Trim Support with this tool -> http://files.thecybershadow.net/trimcheck/
And i am having a Western Digital SiliconEdge Blue SSD 64G

Thanks in advance.

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#4 | RE: ICH10R & RST 13.2.4.1000 Single SSD TRIM Support datum

Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:37 am

Zitat von Voigoth im Beitrag #3
I will look up the Rom Version later.

If it should be an Intel RAID ROM of the MSM Series (v8.x.x.xxxx or lower), you cannot expect TRIM support at all.

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#5 | RE: ICH10R & RST 13.2.4.1000 Single SSD TRIM Support datum

Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:06 am

Even if it is a single SSD ? As far as i have fund out in different Forums it is possible to have a single ssd + raid of any kind on a ICH10R Controller and get trim to work for the single ssd. I don´t neet trim for the raid 0 i have, just for the single ssd drive.

My Rig :
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#6 | RE: ICH10R & RST 13.2.4.1000 Single SSD TRIM Support datum

Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:25 am

Zitat von Voigoth im Beitrag #5
Even if it is a single SSD ? As far as i have fund out in different Forums it is possible to have a single ssd + raid of any kind on a ICH10R Controller and get trim to work for the single ssd.

Yes, but an Intel RST RAID ROM is required.
The first Intel RST RAID ROM with TRIM support was v9.6.0.1014.

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#7 | RE: ICH10R & RST 13.2.4.1000 Single SSD TRIM Support datum

Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:43 am

Ok, in case my Raid Rom is not supporting TRIM is it possible to Flash it to a Version that actaully is supporting Trim ?

My Rig :
ASUS P5QD Turbo + Intel XEON X5470@4,3GHz Sockel 771 Mod + watercooled / 4x2GB DDR2-8500 / Radeon HD5770 / 1 x WD SiliconEdge SSD 64GB SATA2 / 2x500GB SEAGATE Barracuda Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ SATA2 @ RAid 0 / Auzen XFI Prelude

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#8 | RE: ICH10R & RST 13.2.4.1000 Single SSD TRIM Support datum

Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:30 pm

Zitat von Voigoth im Beitrag #7
Ok, in case my Raid Rom is not supporting TRIM is it possible to Flash it to a Version that actaully is supporting Trim ?

Yes!

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#9 | RE: ICH10R & RST 13.2.4.1000 Single SSD TRIM Support datum

Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:41 pm (Last edited: Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:44 pm)

According to the latest 0301 BIOS (AMI v8):

RAID oROM: v8.7.0.1007
DEV_ID: 2822
Uncompressed Size: 79.5KB

So, if you find a v9 or v10 (v11 is larger around 116KB) oROM you can replace it with MMTool v3.26. For example v10.1.0.1008 is 85KB, maybe it will fit.

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#10 | RE: ICH10R & RST 13.2.4.1000 Single SSD TRIM Support datum

Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:49 pm

Ok, sounds fine. I think i will try and flash the Controller. How big are the chances that my raid0 will be recognized after the flash ?

My Rig :
ASUS P5QD Turbo + Intel XEON X5470@4,3GHz Sockel 771 Mod + watercooled / 4x2GB DDR2-8500 / Radeon HD5770 / 1 x WD SiliconEdge SSD 64GB SATA2 / 2x500GB SEAGATE Barracuda Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ SATA2 @ RAid 0 / Auzen XFI Prelude

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#11 | RE: ICH10R & RST 13.2.4.1000 Single SSD TRIM Support datum

Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:18 pm

Zitat von Voigoth im Beitrag #10
How big are the chances that my raid0 will be recognized after the flash ?

If you update the Intel RAID ROM to v10.1.0.1008, the chances are very good.
If you should run into any problem with your RAID0 after having flashed the modded BIOS, you can easily repair it by reflashing the original BIOS.
That is why I recommend to prepare additionally an USB Flash drive containing the original BIOS.

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#12 | RE: ICH10R & RST 13.2.4.1000 Single SSD TRIM Support datum

Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:30 pm

I have successfully moded the bios and inserted the v10.1.0.1008 Raid Rom. Sadly TRIM is still not working with my SSD. I also changed the RSt Driver from 13.2.4.1000 to v11.2.0.1006 but still no Change. Something i have recognized is that under Hardware my ssd drive still got the iastorF.sys Driver. Shouldn´t it be changed to iastor.sys ?
Anyways Trim wasn´t working with None of the two Drivers after the bios-mod.
Any suggestions what i can do now ?

My Rig :
ASUS P5QD Turbo + Intel XEON X5470@4,3GHz Sockel 771 Mod + watercooled / 4x2GB DDR2-8500 / Radeon HD5770 / 1 x WD SiliconEdge SSD 64GB SATA2 / 2x500GB SEAGATE Barracuda Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ SATA2 @ RAid 0 / Auzen XFI Prelude

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#13 | RE: ICH10R & RST 13.2.4.1000 Single SSD TRIM Support datum

Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:01 pm (Last edited: Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:02 pm)

Zitat von Voigoth im Beitrag #12
I have successfully moded the bios and inserted the v10.1.0.1008 Raid Rom. Sadly TRIM is still not working with my SSD.

Are you sure, that your Western Digital SSD is supporting TRIM at all?
If yes, I recommend to replace the original Intel RAID ROM v10.1.0.1008 module of your BIOS by the "Universally TRIM modified" one with the same version. You can find it within the start post of >this< thread.

Zitat
I also changed the RSt Driver from 13.2.4.1000 to v11.2.0.1006 but still no Change. Something i have recognized is that under Hardware my ssd drive still got the iastorF.sys Driver. Shouldn´t it be changed to iastor.sys ?

No, it is the real RAID driver named iaStorA.sys, which has been changed to iaStor.sys. The earlier used SCSI filter driver named iaStorF.sys is now useless and doesn't have any function, but may be still running in the background and drop your performance (this is a bug of the Intel drivers uninstall software). You can get rid of the iaStorF and iaStorA residues by following >this< guide.

Good luck!

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#14 | RE: ICH10R & RST 13.2.4.1000 Single SSD TRIM Support datum

Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:12 pm (Last edited: Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:13 pm)

I found some pages that say that the Siliconedge blue ssd got an internal trim Thing, but i don´t know if this is the same. I changed the bios again and updated it with the universally trim modified Version. trimcheck still says that trim isn´t working. i am going nuts ...

My Rig :
ASUS P5QD Turbo + Intel XEON X5470@4,3GHz Sockel 771 Mod + watercooled / 4x2GB DDR2-8500 / Radeon HD5770 / 1 x WD SiliconEdge SSD 64GB SATA2 / 2x500GB SEAGATE Barracuda Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ SATA2 @ RAid 0 / Auzen XFI Prelude

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#15 | RE: ICH10R & RST 13.2.4.1000 Single SSD TRIM Support datum

Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:20 pm

Zitat von Voigoth im Beitrag #14
I found some pages that say that the Siliconedge blue ssd got an internal trim

That is the "Garbage Collection" feature, but not TRIM.

Zitat
I changed the bios again and updated it with the universally trim modified Version. trimcheck still says that trim isn´t working.

Did you trigger TRIM before running the TrimCheck Tool (look >here<)?

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