@Lost_N_BIOS @hancor

Thank you guys. I feel sorry to drag both of you to this trouble, my main gold is to enable PBS menu on my BIOS, I can enable all options under Setup except Chipset menu with AMIBCP (easiest) or by Hex-editing the setup module and now I learned in this process to Hex-edit AMITSE Setupdata (a la AMIBCP). But I can not enable PBS, I just test a different mod instead of using the GUID of Setup (4A 10 59 7B 0D C0 58 41 87 FF F0 4D 63 96 A9 15 0B 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ) I used the GUID of the PBS menu (59 B9 63 B8 C6 0E 33 40 99 C1 8F D8 9F 04 02 22 0B 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00) leaving the Short Visible like this 14 27 15 27 12 27 16 27 18 27 19 27 1A 27 0B 00 still the same problem I can not access BIOS setup, next step is to replace 0B 00 to FF FF and see what happens.

Cheers

@aGeoM - If you know how to do regular BIOS areas with AMIBCP, then you got it from here, but you may need to unsuppress those bifurcation items in setup, not sure I didn't check. Yes, just had a quick look, it may need unsuppressed there, I don't think AMIBCP can make it visible by itself

PBS is not necessary now, nor do I think we'd be able to make it visible, Asus would have to do it. If you want to change some default there, you can change by editing PBS module directly. If you want Bifurcation, I'd make the settings visible that's already in your BIOS Advanced section.

Chipset can be made visible by AMITSE PE32 (not SetupData) edit, same way I showed you for PBS, but with chipset it will actually work.
Test that edit by itself, then if it does not show up, set Chipset to Supervisor at root level of setup, do not do this all at once as it may not be necessary and can cancel AMITSE edit out sometimes too if it's not needed

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #17

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Chipset can be made visible by AMITSE PE32 (not SetupData) edit, same way I showed you for PBS, but with chipset it will actually work.

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0x4C79	One Of: PCIe/GFX Lanes Configuration, VarStoreInfo (VarOffset/VarName): 0x19, VarStore: 0x1, QuestionId: 0x6, Size: 1, Min: 0x0, Max 0x2, Step: 0x0 {05 91 15 00 16 00 06 00 01 00 19 00 10 10 00 02 00}
0x4C8A		One Of Option: Auto, Value (8 bit): 0x0 (default) {09 07 08 00 10 00 00}
0x4C91		One Of Option: x8x4x4, Value (8 bit): 0x1 {09 07 17 00 00 00 01}
0x4C98		One Of Option: x4x4x4x4, Value (8 bit): 0x2 {09 07 18 00 00 00 02}
0x4C9F	End One Of {29 02}
 

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Asus would have to do it

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They do not even update an "AGESA 1005" BIOS for newer boards, and AGESA come out more than a month ago. But PBS menu is available for Zen2 on this board, Reous have one full unlocked <here> I just wanted to be available for Zen/Zeb+ thats all.

Cya later on I will post some pictures of my BIOS menus.

Be well...

Sounds like something is not right then, let me do for you Actually, that may be the issue the whole time, and not necessarily something you do wrong, but maybe wrong tool versions etc. What are you inserting mod files back with?
Please try with UEFITool 25 (not 25.1 and not newer), if you're not already using that. If you are, then still, I will make one for you to test, maybe something else is an issue on rebuild that you aren't seeing and this is what's breaking the BIOS.

No, those options you quoted are in the PBS area only, I only see the bifurcation options on Advanced menu hancor and I have been discussing.
Thanks for link to mod w/ PBS menu, I will check it out, why would it be only for one type of CPU?? Especially if someone not Asus is directly modifying it, why wouldn't he make it for all CPUs?
I know BIOS is sometimes half for one CPU type and half for the other, but since he's modding, why would he not edit both? There is only one PBS in this BIOS, unlike CBS, so why would it only apply to one CPU type?
Please ask that user who made these BIOS directly, thanks!

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #19

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Sounds like something is not right then, let me do for you Actually, that may be the issue the whole time, and not necessarily something you do wrong, but maybe wrong tool versions etc. What are you inserting mod files back with?

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those options you quoted are in the PBS area only

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Yes, they are and are the ones I expected for.

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why would it be only for one type of CPU?? Especially if someone not Asus is directly modifying it, why wouldn't he make it for all CPUs?

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Mainly because some options are only available for certain CPU's, that is why we have 2 BIOS inside, but some of them are supported by all Ryzen CPU's, I believe that the question lands on pure economics like if you want to have this you have to buy that, that sort of things, sometimes is software restricted other is just small hardware adds, like Q Code, Power and Rest buttons onboard or Flashback function, as example look at X570 line from Asus from X570-P(194,90€) to STRIX X570-E(324,90€) they use same VRM basically are the same board but you pay more just because the "dressing".

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why would he not edit both? There is only one PBS in this BIOS, unlike CBS, so why would it only apply to one CPU type?

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I assume that is because he is using a 3000 series CPU and PBS is enabled by default, he just unlocked some features like I do to CBS, and no, there is 2 PBS in BIOS:

I could ask him and maybe I will but... the only time I asked for something over this long years was to the guy at OCN as @KedarWolf suggested, and to be honest I do not think that he can unlock the damm thing, not in this kind of boards like mine or @Fernado and @SoniX, they do not have the GUID in AMITSE, MSI ones have, and he had read like I did somewhere how to do it, in my case was here from @TOM_RUS post, then I see you offering to unlock PBS to @Fernando and that plus what I have learned from you to add ME firmware directly to BIOS body (RIVE board), the guides and most off all your patience with @intello that encouraged me to ask you, this PBS is not a task for anyone, I believe it is possible but probably I am wrong.
Again thank you very much for supporting me.

EDIT:
Just used UEFITool 0.25 for inserting AMITSE (Chipset mod), same as before no BIOS setup to access.

EDIT 2

@aGeoM - Sorry, I also forgot to mention, assumed you'd read/aware of this partial Aptio V unlock guide method I wrote below (see spoiler/advanced method - does not cover all possible Aptio V "things")
This was mainly generalized to those boards back then, but this basic method is used for most all Aptio V, but some have more block or visible lists, some have other kinds of block areas not shown here too. Sometime I need to make a more complete all encompassing Aptio V menu edit guide.
OverPowered TONGFANG CyberPower Machrevo MACHENIKE - Unlocked BIOS Guide W/ Files

And while I'm dropping links/info for you, see also here, this + NVRAM is what happens when you make AMIBCP edit to Optimal/Failsafe and Access Level (See info + image)
This very useful for BIOS you can't easily edit with AMIBCP too, but since I am always editing manually this is how I do all my edits + NVRAM edit (hard to explain, but I can drop you a few links where I tried if you want? NVRAM holds current/applied value, like if you want to change actual current default)
[Request]Maximus XI Hero - Unlock AMIBCP

So, to what I forgot to tell you! You would also need to remove chipset from the block list in AMITSE (Both AMITSE, I assume, would do etc)
Please show me image of your "Boot" section of the BIOS, maybe I have one of these lists labelled wrong - I usually ask for images of at least one each main BIOS section before I make out a list or do edit to menu, just to be sure.
I may have "Short Block List" wrong, that may be short visible list, and then some in there are subsequently blocked by the main block list and or not being in the short visible list instead.
* Pre-post Edit - Yes!! I think this is true! >> Short block in list below is actually one of visible list! Redoing all edits now, second package will be linked in a bit

If UEFITool 28 didn't break your BIOS when inserting setup/AMITSE for other edits then it's OK for this BIOS, at least if it's doing the things it shouldn't that most above 25 do in many BIOS, then it's OK for your BIOS in this instance (add/remove padding, often = brick)
I have not checked, but assume it may happen - I did quick test only replacing both setups, and then 2nd test replacing AMITSE, no added or removed padding and no changed/missing other modules, so good sign that complete edit with Setup/AMITSE/AMITSE-SetupData mod would produce same no change!
I compared 25 mod and 28 mod, and they do not match, but I think this is due to different LZMA compressions is all, leading to different edited volume checksums and sizes
So, 28 is OK for this BIOS, which you already know now from testing and using and other edits using UEFITool 28 inserts and rebuilds all being OK

On the CPU's, why this for that for each CPU type, do the other type NOT actually support those functions, or is this something Asus is artificially limiting to per CPU type in it's BIOS?
Yes, thanks for correction, I did already find and had extracted both PBS, not sure why I said only one?

I think by looking at the BIOS you linked, I'll be able to sort it out I didn't know Fernando was asking about PBS, assume general BIOS menus etc, that's what I was offering to do for him if he needed.
But yes, I think I'll be able to figure that out for you now that you've linked me to that BIOS where it's available for those other CPU's

So, here below is proper full notes for AMITSE edit, sorry again, I assumed you'd seen that guide above and when we were talking about "adding PBS" I didn't need to mention removing from block list areas so I didn't even think about mentioning this when saying to enable chipset etc
So, to make chipset visible, first you need to remove it from block lists (x2 in each AMITSE), then add it's ID to the short visible list (x1 in each AMITSE), then also add it to the main/All list (x1 in each AMITSE), then test.
If does not show up, then at Root of setup set Access Level to Supervisor (or do AMITSE/SetupData Edit as linked above to set access level to Supervisor), then test again and it should be enabled if didn't work without this.

And here is both BIOS edited in that manner - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...591027386239188
Test UEFI28Test-AMITSEChipset (AMITSE Edit only) First, then if no chipset test UEFI28Test-AMITSE-SetupDataSuper-Chipset (AMITSE + SetupData (ie access Level Super w/ AMIBCP) - if you want to quick test to see which way works, then redo your own edit to apply to your current work progress if you want
If neither of these allow BIOS entry like you seen before, then it may be that short visible list FF FF on end can't be removed, and one of the menu ID's would need replaced there (ie loosing a menu for quick test, such as tool or boot)
Or, let me know, and before I do anything else, I will redo these with UEFITool 25 and then we check again to confirm same or not, and then consider replacing tool/boot for quick test (just to see if chipset shows, or something else blocking it)

* Edit - due to above bold item, also test this package of two BIOS, I think I labeled the short block list (w/ longer ID's) wrong, that is a visible list and we should leave chipset there
Test package two, test as mentioned above - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...843227756572436

@Lost_N_BIOS

Sorry, none of the packages worked, no BIOS Setup. I am now writing from a backup system since I can not setup RAID array. For removing a menu Tool should be fine.

@aGeoM - None worked?? That is odd, says either UEFITool 28 issue to me, or we need to leave that FF FF in place at short list location. Generally when this kind of mod fails, the menu just does not appear, it does not usually cause non-BIOS entry.
So, can you please confirm, you have edited setup or CBS/PBS modules with UEFITool 28 and inserted and BIOS was bootable?

Thanks, once you confirm or not about 28 edit the above modules, I will either redo with 25 as originally intended, and or swap tool for chipset.

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #23

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So, can you please confirm, you have edited setup or CBS/PBS modules with UEFITool 28 and inserted and BIOS was bootable?

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Yes, I extract with NE as well, I only wanted to confirm with you that you have for sure edited and replaced some modules in those volumes with 28 on this exact BIOS, and it was OK, bootable to BIOS etc.
@aGeoM- So yes, you confirm that you have?

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Yes, I confirm I use 0.28 and does not compromise BIOS.

@aGeoM - OK, thanks! Then lets try swap Tool for chipset - https://ufile.io/bn1i0zsl
If these all fail too, maybe the reason he's only doing this for one CPU type is you can't edit the other volume? I'm editing AMITSE and AMITSE/SetupData in both volumes. Which volume is which CPU type, ie Top Setup/AMITSE etc is what CPU type, and bottom Setup/AMITSE is what CPU type.
Along with that info, which of those is Zen2, this is what his mod is compatible with, and he says not compatible with other than Zen2 (unclear if that means BIOS does not boot with other than Zen2, or only his changes are applied to Zen2 area?)
And, which section applies to your CPU type? << Next test will be towards this section only, chipset-Tool swap. Unless I immediately see how Reous enabled PBS, then I'll just do that for your section too. I guess we should really just switch focus and put time back into this, since that is main goal here.
I know NOTHING about AMD CPU's

Soon as I get out of the shower, I will dig into Reous mod and see if I can tell how/where he's enabled PBS. I forget, did you already test just unsuppress PBS in both modules (46 02 >> 47 02 at start of settings)?

* edit - I see the issue, even if we enable PBS option, those first two slots can only do x8 max per specs, if you have a graphics card installed, third slot x8 max as well - https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-St...specifications/
So, even with PBS options, the only way you can do 4x4x4x4x is if you use onboard graphics, otherwise all slots are limited at x8

If you have Hyper card, and want to test, while using onboard graphics, we can hard set PBS option to 4x4x4x4x via PBS Module edit + NVRAM edit
That option is tied to CPU type/revision, see below, we can unsuppress no matter what, and or force hard set, but it may be only possible to do whatever the CPU can do per it's specs too (otherwise, no reason for suppression in this manner tied to CPU revision)

CPU Revision, VarStoreInfo (VarOffset/VarName): 0x0, VarStore: 0x1, QuestionId: 0x2, Size: 1, Min: 0x0, Max 0x4, Step: 0x0 {05 91 32 00 33 00 02 00 01 00 00 00 10 10 00 04 00}
0x4B5F One Of Option: 0, Value (8 bit): 0x0 {09 07 34 00 00 00 00}
0x4B66 One Of Option: 1, Value (8 bit): 0x1 {09 07 35 00 00 00 01}
0x4B6D One Of Option: 2, Value (8 bit): 0x2 {09 07 36 00 00 00 02}
0x4B74 One Of Option: 3, Value (8 bit): 0x3 {09 07 37 00 00 00 03}
0x4B7B One Of Option: 1, Value (8 bit): 0x4 (default) {09 07 35 00 10 00 04}

Suppress If {0A 82}
0x4C65 QuestionId: 0x2 equals value in list (0x1, 0x3, 0x4) {14 8C 02 00 03 00 01 00 03 00 04 00}
0x4C71 Not {17 02}
0x4C73 End {29 02}
0x4C75 One Of: PCIe/GFX Lanes Configuration, VarStoreInfo (VarOffset/VarName): 0x19, VarStore: 0x1, QuestionId: 0x6, Size: 1, Min: 0x0, Max 0x2, Step: 0x0 {05 91 15 00 16 00 06 00 01 00 19 00 10 10 00 02 00}
0x4C86 One Of Option: Auto, Value (8 bit): 0x0 (default) {09 07 08 00 10 00 00}
0x4C8D One Of Option: x8x4x4, Value (8 bit): 0x1 {09 07 17 00 00 00 01}
0x4C94 One Of Option: x4x4x4x4, Value (8 bit): 0x2 {09 07 18 00 00 00 02}

0x4C9F Suppress If {0A 82}
0x4CA1 QuestionId: 0x2 equals value 0x2 {12 86 02 00 02 00}
0x4CA7 Not {17 02}
0x4CA9 End {29 02}
0x4CAB One Of: PCIe/GFX lanes Configuration, VarStoreInfo (VarOffset/VarName): 0x19, VarStore: 0x1, QuestionId: 0x7, Size: 1, Min: 0x0, Max 0x1, Step: 0x0 {05 91 19 00 1A 00 07 00 01 00 19 00 10 10 00 01 00}
0x4CBC One Of Option: x8, Value (8 bit): 0x0 (default) {09 07 1B 00 10 00 00}
0x4CC3 One Of Option: x4x4, Value (8 bit): 0x1 {09 07 1C 00 00 00 01}


Anyway, just something I noticed while digging around and thinking this over vs the X399 hancor has. Now, I will see if I can figure out Reous PBS enable

@Lost_N_BIOS

Request:

Okay, thought it over and given you're "going to the wall" for @aGeoM on the bifurcation somersaults and doing the research anyway; you can do me up the "FuLL BLOWN" bifurcation options on the the ROG Zenith Extreme?

At the moment working on my 10Gbit home network and boning up on LACP (Link Aggregation Control Protocol), VLANs, NIC teaming my Mellanox ConnectX-3 PRO EN 10 Gigabit Ethernet dual port cards (PN: MCX312C-XCCT) with OM3 Corning fiber optics etc. connected to a Ubiquiti US-16-XG switch so don't have the time to devote to the finer points of BIOS options editing at this time...

Cheers

@Lost_N_BIOS
I am not home ATM, so replying from phone. Short answer top BIOS volume is for Zen/Zen+ bottom Zen2. He only edited bottom volume. His BIOS can run in my system as default like no modifications, changes are only applied to Zen2 area.
Later on I will give you some more details about this BIOS composition/structure and the feedback from your new modded BIOSes. There is no problem not knowing something like AMD or Intel CPU' s besides the problem of not knowing but is the process of knowing where the fun resides. 😉
Be well...

@hancor - nothing I can do yet, until we figure out this PBS thing, but to be honest your BIOS already has the same in default area that you see in PBS, so making PBS visible for you would not change anything as far as bifurcation options.

@aGeoM - Thanks, that helps, saves some time too since I can focus on top section only for now (on your BIOS, will dig into bottom on his, and see what I can find)

* Edit -
All top (Setup, AMITSE, AMITSE/SetupData) = match with stock
NV1 = match w/ Stock

NV1-2nd - match w/ Stock
Setup - Modified >> Different size, and possible assembly work, digging in to see if I can find anything >> Looks same/normal, some items unsuppressed and or values changes, but other than that the only difference here is text changes/additions and this made the size change
AMITSE - NOT modified at all
AMITSE-SetupData - Modified >> Some settings defaults changed, some access level changes & some remapping/swapped setting (Don't Reset VC-TC Mapping >> ASPM instead)

PBS-Modified - Not by much, moved AMD Firmware version outside of suppress if and 46/47 Unused GPP clocks Off

Need more time, to dig into AMITSE/SetupData and setup in assembly, to see if I can find how PBS enable

Is the above image in post #20, at bottom/root of Advanced, how your stock BIOS looks (ie you have not enabled any submenus or items at root of advanced)?
If not, and you have added/enabled something, can you please flash stock BIOS and give me an image from top to bottom of root of advanced page.

* Edit @aGeoM - Quick test needed, do you see PBS now in Advanced? If you say you can't enter BIOS I give up on 28 and am going back to 25!!
This is simple unsuppress edit to PBS Module only, moving one item outside of suppression, and this is the ONLY edit done here.
This is only meant for quick test, if it works and you have missing items in there this is Ok and normal, only goal here is to see PBS or not, rest will be handled if you can now see it
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...632116775669100