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#796 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:16 pm (Last edited: Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:31 pm)

Zitat von plutomaniac im Beitrag #801
Normally this should not matter for FWUpdate. Your extracted ME region has a hex size of 18E000 (1.55MB), so I added some FF padding to the updated firmware image and made it 1.55MB (18E000) size as well. Try the attached file. Also don't be scared of FWUpdate, it's safe as it checks everything. FPT on the other hand is not (when flashing, not dumping).

It's very strange, as everybody else here could flash their firmwares normally with provided me-files from the first page. Does it mean that normally there is a reserved space 1,48 MB for ME region in all PC-based bioses\uefis while Mac for some reason is reserving 1,55 mb for its ME-region in the UEFI?

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#797 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:26 pm

Is the 10.x.x.x driver posted in the first page the latest one? If it is, is it safe to assume that if another latest driver comes out that takes over as the recommended driver?

Mainboard: Asus MAXIMUS X Code , CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K, Disks: Samsung 970 EVO 500GB SSD + Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD + Samsung SATA3 1TB HDD, Graphics: Intel Gigabyte GTX 1080 Ti, RAM: 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW), OS: Windows 10 Enterprise x64

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#798 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:10 pm

Zitat von Lipid im Beitrag #802
It's very strange, as everybody else here could flash their firmwares normally with provided me-files from the first page. Does it mean that normally there is a reserved space 1,48 MB for ME region in all PC-based bioses\uefis while Mac for some reason is reserving 1,55 mb for its ME-region in the UEFI?

No, to my current knowledge FWUpdate "converts" the full ME regions to Update files (less than 1MB) and then flashes them. We have no confirmation for that though so I may be wrong. Did you try to flash the new .bin file I attached above?

Zitat von kevindd992002 im Beitrag #803
Is the 10.x.x.x driver posted in the first page the latest one? If it is, is it safe to assume that if another latest driver comes out that takes over as the recommended driver?

Obviously

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#799 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:19 pm (Last edited: Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:47 pm)

Zitat von plutomaniac im Beitrag #804
No, to my current knowledge FWUpdate "converts" the full ME regions to Update files (less than 1MB) and then flashes them. We have no confirmation for that though so I may be wrong. Did you try to flash the new .bin file I attached above?

Not yet. I doubt if I should try once again after the firts unsuccessful attempt..

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#800 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:53 pm

It is not something to be afraid of but it's your decision. Another thing to try otherwise would be to flash a v9.5.41.1094 ME Update image but we need to find someone which has already that firmware applied in order to generate the update file from within FWUpdate tool.

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#801 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:32 pm (Last edited: Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:35 pm)

Zitat von plutomaniac im Beitrag #806
It is not something to be afraid of but it's your decision. Another thing to try otherwise would be to flash a v9.5.41.1094 ME Update image but we need to find someone which has already that firmware applied in order to generate the update file from within FWUpdate tool.

Yes, I'd rather try to flash this update-file than modded full-ME-region file, but I don't know where can I get it.

I've found another thing. In the new ME-firmware file (9.5.41..) the update-part of the code starts in the first half not far from beginning in offset 4B000 if to be exact. While in my current dump of full-me-region (9.5.3..) it is placed in the second half near to the end (offset 104000).

Is it normal?

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#802 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:46 am (Last edited: Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:21 am)

The firmware images I am giving you are not modded, not at all. They do not endanger your system nor are they risky in any way. Adding FF padding to the end is nothing. It is just for adjusting the size.

There are multiple $MN2 regions at the firmware images (usually two at Region & three at Update images). There is no point in comparing them, there is no difference between your ME and someone else's who has a Windows/Linux computer etc.

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#803 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:17 am

Zitat von plutomaniac im Beitrag #808
The firmware images I am giving you are not modded, not at all. They do not endanger your system nor are they risky in any way. Adding FF padding to the end is nothing. It is just for adjusting the size.

Just tried your image with added FF space - still no luck. Result is the same:

Error 8746: Firmware update not initiated due to invalid image length

I think there is only one last hope - to find somewhere update-image of this firmware.

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#804 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:35 pm (Last edited: Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:53 pm)

Since I don't have such a system, we need to ask someone else to provide this update file. In the meantime, if you make an update file of your current firmware and flash it with command FWUpdLcl64 -f ME.bin -allowsv, does it work as it should?

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#805 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:50 pm (Last edited: Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:16 pm)

Integrated clock control me firmware7.1 inside (ICC) important?

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#806 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:08 pm (Last edited: Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:54 pm)

Already knew about that document but never added it. It's where this from TXE thread comes from.

* Updated at ME System Tools v8.1: 1.5MB HEDT FW Release Notes from v8.1.20.1336 --> v8.1.40.1416

ICC is a 5MB tool, so for you no.

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#807 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:36 pm

Zitat von plutomaniac im Beitrag #810
In the meantime, if you make an update file of your current firmware and flash it with command FWUpdLcl64 -f ME.bin -allowsv, does it work as it should?

Confirm. I've just flashed it with my native update image, everything worked well.

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#808 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:52 pm (Last edited: Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:31 pm)

Zitat von Lipid im Beitrag #813
Confirm. I've just flashed it with my native update image, everything worked well.

Alright, good. What about your own fpt dumped ME Region at 1.55MB? The one you uploaded HERE that is. I'm sorry about all the questions & reflashing I'm asking of you but I've never seen someone not being able to flash Intel's ME Region image before with that error. I want to see if for some reason it does not allow full region updates but it does allow update ones on your system.

I'll be moving the following update firmware request from post to post so that is can be seen by someone with a 9.5 ME system. You can ignore it.

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#809 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:12 pm (Last edited: Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:34 pm)

Zitat von plutomaniac im Beitrag #814
I've never seen someone not being able to flash Intel's ME Region image before with that error.

Probably, that is because you've never seen a person with Mac trying to mess with this stuff)) It is supposed to be simply amazing and awesome right from the box))

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#810 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:34 pm (Last edited: Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:12 pm)

Well, that shouldn't have anything to do with it. Intel is responsible for ME, not Apple. Anyway, if you want try the full 1.55MB region you dumped earlier to see it doesn't accept region images but only Update ones for some weird reason. Otherwise wait for someone to give us an update file to test.

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