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#571 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:14 pm

Zitat von plutomaniac im Beitrag #538
... So in this post from about a month ago that person has a PM55 (2MB chip) system and so the 1.5MB v6.1.10.1052 firmware provided from @lordkag is not correct for that system.

At first I thought that the user has a full 1.5 ME, but only a very small update image seems to be embedded into BIOS, probably just for updating an old version. Search for the $MN2 or $MAN signature, the ME starts from the row above.

@Fernando

Intel ME Firmware 6.1.10.1052 was extracted from a BIOS and I don't have a flasher for it, but as Plutomaniac said, you can use the flasher from 6.2.60.1066. If the flasher needs the updating image, you can cut from 0x32000 to end, but I can't vouch for the safety of this method. Basically, the flasher looks for $MN2 or $MAN and flashes from the row above.

The 5M section should also contain 9.0.31.1487 and 9.1.10.1005 firmwares, isn't it?

Intel MEI Firmware 10.0.27.1006_1.5M from the same Lenovo image posted by Pacman. Only for newer laptops/tablets.

lordkag has attached files to this post

Intel MEI Firmware 10.0.27.1006_1.5M.rar

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#572 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:15 am (Last edited: Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:03 am)

@ lordkag:
Thanks for your statement.

Zitat von lordkag im Beitrag #576
Intel ME Firmware 6.1.10.1052 was extracted from a BIOS and I don't have a flasher for it, but as Plutomaniac said, you can use the flasher from 6.2.60.1066. If the flasher needs the updating image, you can cut from 0x32000 to end, but I can't vouch for the safety of this method.

Under these circumstances and risks I will not offer any ME6 Firmware Update for 1.5M systems within the start post, unless I get access to the original Firmware Update bin file.

Zitat
The 5M section should also contain 9.0.31.1487 and 9.1.10.1005 firmwares, isn't it?

Yes, I will add them, when I have the needed time (I am currently far away from home).
EDIT: Why do you think, that I should offer the v9.1.10.1005 for 5M systems? Isn't the v9.1.20.1035 newer and better?

Zitat
Intel MEI Firmware 10.0.27.1006_1.5M from the same Lenovo image posted by Pacman. Only for newer laptops/tablets.

The question is, what is "newer" (from 8- or 9-Series up)? Can I risk an update with my new MS Surface Pro 3?

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#573 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:03 am (Last edited: Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:31 pm)

Zitat von lordkag im Beitrag #576
Intel ME Firmware 6.1.10.1052 was extracted from a BIOS and I don't have a flasher for it, but as Plutomaniac said, you can use the flasher from 6.2.60.1066. If the flasher needs the updating image, you can cut from 0x32000 to end, but I can't vouch for the safety of this method. Basically, the flasher looks for $MN2 or $MAN and flashes from the row above.

I don't think you can cut it. I did some tests at my Z77 system (ME8 v8.1.52.1496):

1) I run FWUpdLcl -save ME_UPD.bin. Opened with HxD and size is 130000.
2) Then I took the ME8_1.5M_Production.bin supplied by Intel (v8.1.52.1496) and searched for $MN2. The line above is at offset 4D000 (offset is different depending on ME version)
3) I copied from 4D000 to the end (length 130000, the size of the FWUpdLcl update file) and created a new "Update" file called ME_Extracted.bin
4) The two files (ME_UPD.bin & ME_Extracted.bin) are not identical at all!
5) Out of curiosity, I run FWUpdLcl -f ME_Extracted.bin which resulted in Error: Invalid Image

So this proves what I said before. The "Update" file provided by Intel or the one made by FWUpdLcl (-save command) cannot be inserted inside a normal BIOS image. Similarly, you cannot extract everything below offset 4D000 (line above $MN2) from a BIOS and expect to flash that with FWUpdLcl. They are not compatible, completely different files.

However, read this from Intel's FWUpdLcl instructions:

ME7: The image file that the tool uses for the update is not the image file used to create the complete SPI FW image file. It only contains the ME code region and it can not be used to generate a whole SPI image with the FITC tool.

ME8: The image file that the tool uses for the update is the same image file that is used by the FITC tool to create a firmware image for use in the SPI.

This makes sense since as I found out FWUpdLcl v7 and earlier only accepted "Update" files but everything afterwards (v8 etc) accepts both "Updates" and "Full" ME images (17D000).

However, if v8 firmwares and afterwards are indeed FITC compatible why can't we cut them like you said from $MN2? The only logical conclusion would be that FWUpdLcl also does something else. It doesn't just flash everything after $MN2. Maybe it takes the full ME firmware and cleans-it-up first to make it a "pure update" with no custom settings and then flash it. Maybe Intel did this to make their life easier by being able to flash everything ME-related (even full images) without having to create the special update file.

Update:

It seems that lordkag is right BUT for ME v7 (6-series systems). I did some tests on my HM65 laptop with the stock ME (v7.0.4.1197):

1) Took the CPT_1.5M_UPD_Production.bin file from Intel (7.0.4.1197 update file) and size is 146000
2) Took the CPT_1.5M_Production.bin file from Intel (7.0.4.1197 full file, FITC compatible) and searched for $MN2
3) I copied from there to the end (length 146000, the size of the Update file) and created a new "Update" file called ME_Extracted_FULL.bin
4) Took my laptop's stock bios (with ME v7.0.4.1197) and searched for $MN2
5) I copied from there (length 146000, the size of the Update file) and created a new "Update" file called ME_Extracted_BIOS.bin
6) All three files (CPT_1.5M_UPD_Production.bin & ME_Extracted_FULL.bin & ME_Extracted_BIOS.bin) are identical with SHA-1 of 5581FE1FD3E3AED5694C84F4C7AA8FA292B49B4E

So, maybe what he said for ME v6 will actually work. HOWEVER, I haven't done the same test for ME v6.

plutomaniac has attached files to this post

Firmware ME v7.0.4.1197 (Old).rar

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#574 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:59 am

Update of the Start Post
Changelog:

new: Intel FWUpdate v10.0.27.1006 for ME10 Consumer (1.5M) systems (thanks to Pacman/lordkag for the file/link)
new: Intel FWUpdate v9.1.20.1035 for ME9.1 Business (5M) systems
new: Intel FWUpdate v9.0.31.1487 for ME9.0 Business (5M) systems

Thanks to Station-Drivers for the source files!

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#575 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:23 pm

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #577

EDIT: Why do you think, that I should offer the v9.1.10.1005 for 5M systems? Isn't the v9.1.20.1035 newer and better?
Zitat
Intel MEI Firmware 10.0.27.1006_1.5M from the same Lenovo image posted by Pacman. Only for newer laptops/tablets.
The question is, what is "newer" (from 8- or 9-Series up)? Can I risk an update with my new MS Surface Pro 3?

Yes, 9.1.20.1035 seems newer.

Firmware 10.0.27.1006 is for 9-Series up, but I wouldn't use it on boards with older 9.5.x firmware. Not only there is a major revision jump, but it would be extremely difficult to fix the problems that appeared when upgrading 9.0.x to 9.1.x on desktop. So this firmware is for mobile systems that already have 10.x firmware.

By the way, this is the content of your Surface Pro 3 BIOS, September update.

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#576 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:49 pm

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #518
Zitat von zanca.racing im Beitrag #517
I already uninstall the yellow marked, reboot and install intel ME 10.0.28.1006 driver------> Same result!
Ok but if MEInfo tool don't work? I think that all X79 motherboard can upgrade with the same ME firmware or not?
I am not sure about that. Since you obviously unsuccessfully tried to flash a new Intel ME Firmware (maybe with a version, which is not compatible with your system), I suspect, that the Intel ME module, which is part of your mainboard BIOS, got broken.
Zitat
Can I try to change the bios chip???
You can try everything, but you have to make sure, that the BIOS chip is suitable for your mainboard.
Good luck!

Ok. Few days ago via mail I wrote to Asrock and they tell me that they send me a bios chip.

Today arrived:

I put in my motherboard and now everything work perfectly!

Thank you so much!

Bye!

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#577 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:36 pm

ASRock actually does that? Impressive, didn't know. I suppose the other manufacturers do not have the same policy.

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#578 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:53 pm

Yes. I wrote 2 or 3 mail with Asrock tecnical support and then they send to me a new bios chip without money.

Now how can update my MEI Firmware??

I have actually 8.1.40.1416 version.

I try me 10.XXXX and the system tell my that my hardware is not compatible.

I try me 8.1.52.1496 and the system flash the rom but when I restart my pc the MEinfo says that I have 8.1.40.1416 version.

How can I do?

Thank you!

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#579 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:02 pm (Last edited: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:03 pm)

You have a ME8 system so the latest is v8.1.52.1496. You cannot go to v9,10 etc...

Did you use FWUpdLcl tool to update? If I'm not mistaken some manufacturers include a "Recovery" ME in their bios and when you change it, it automatically reverts back. I've definitely seen some discussion and solutions about that in this forum but don't remember where.

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#580 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:30 pm

Zitat von plutomaniac im Beitrag #584
You have a ME8 system so the latest is v8.1.52.1496. You cannot go to v9,10 etc...

Did you use FWUpdLcl tool to update? If I'm not mistaken some manufacturers include a "Recovery" ME in their bios and when you change it, it automatically reverts back. I've definitely seen some discussion and solutions about that in this forum but don't remember where.

Yes I use FWUpdLcl.

If is possible to upgrade is better but if it's too hard I leave the system in this state.

Thank you!

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#581 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:05 am (Last edited: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:59 am)

Zitat von zanca.racing im Beitrag #585
Yes I use FWUpdLcl.

If is possible to upgrade is better but if it's too hard I leave the system in this state.

Thank you!

Yeap, I remembered correctly. ASRock has a ME Recovery system in-place that restores a pre-defined version from a backup incase it detects an updated ME. Details can be found on this forum HERE (pages of posts). In the end, @lordkag found the solution. I suspect he might be able to help you out on this one.

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#582 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:01 pm

Hello everyone.

I have a HP laptop (model DV6-6b66ew)
Chipset HM67 and Intel i7 2nd gen.
My system has updated (done by myself) ME FW which is actually 7.1.60.1193
Can I update this system do ME 8.x ?? ( found on the web that this is for many Intel 6/7 Series Chipsets).

This is dump from MEInfo:

Intel(R) MEInfo Version: 7.1.52.1180
Copyright(C) 2005 - 2011, Intel Corporation. All rights reserved.

PMXUtil: Error during PMX Call: PMxDrv!MAPPHYS - Bad Input Parameters
GBE Region does not exist.
Intel(R) ME code versions:

BIOS Version: F.1C
MEBx Version: 7.0.0.53
Gbe Version: Unknown
VendorID: 8086
PCH Version: 5
FW Version: 7.1.60.1193
UNS Version: Not Available
LMS Version: 10.0.28.1000
MEI Driver Version: 10.0.28.1000
Wireless Hardware Version: 1.5.229
Wireless Driver Version: 15.11.0.7

FW Capabilities: 17833056

Intel(R) Anti-Theft Technology - PRESENT/ENABLED
Intel(R) Capability Licensing Service - PRESENT/ENABLED
Protect Audio Video Path - PRESENT/ENABLED
Intel(R) Dynamic Application Loader - PRESENT/ENABLED

CPU Upgrade State: Upgrade Capable
Cryptography Support: Disabled
Last ME reset reason: Power up
Local FWUpdate: Enabled
BIOS and GbE Config Lock: Unknown
Host Read Access to ME: Disabled
Host Write Access to ME: Disabled
SPI Flash ID #1: BF254A
SPI Flash ID VSCC #1: 20092009
SPI Flash BIOS VSCC: 20092009
BIOS boot State: Post Boot
OEM Id: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
OEM Tag: 0x00000000

Thank you for any suggestions.

MB: ASUS STRIX Z-390 E-Gaming 1502, CPU: Intel Core i7 8700, Disk Drives: 256 GB Samsung 960 Pro NVMe SSD + 512 GB Patriot Scorch M.2 NVMe SSD, Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 1080 8GB, OS: Win10 Pro x64

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#583 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:19 pm

Can? It seems not!

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#584 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:37 pm

@ tadekm:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!

Zitat von tadekm im Beitrag #587
I have a HP laptop (model DV6-6b66ew)
Chipset HM67 and Intel i7 2nd gen.
My system has updated (done by myself) ME FW which is actually 7.1.60.1193
Can I update this system do ME 8.x ?? ( found on the web that this is for many Intel 6/7 Series Chipsets).

It may be possible, but the risk of a bricked system is extremely high.
That is why I do not recommend to try it.
What do you expect from a switch to Intel ME8 (besides the good feeling to get a newer Management Engine for your system)?

Regards
Fernando

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#585 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:15 pm

me7 1.5mb There will be updated?

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