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#1831 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:29 am (Last edited: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:29 am)

I wasn't hopping for DPC latency fixing, at least fixing mini-freezes it causes.
and I was asking. what is the power of this ME to fix? it doesn't have any changelog, does it?

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#1832 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:06 pm (Last edited: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:50 pm)

Actually, some changes made in ME updates can make things slightly worse regarding DPC latency.
A well known case is ME v8.1.30.1350 -> 8.1.40.1416 which reduces the polling delay of the W/LAN link from 5 seconds to 3 seconds.
Thus Intel 82579LM/V driver v12.10.29.0 creates huge DPC latency spikes every 3 seconds instead of every 5 seconds, as if it was not enough.
It has taken more than 15 months for Intel to partially correct this widespread problem with driver v12.15.30.0.

Just an example.

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#1833 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:18 pm

never concerned myself with DPC latency until installing windows 10.
why? i noticed and micro-freezes when watching media.
never had those on window 8.1. I might just go back to that as I don't eighter microsoft or intel fixing it.
also this time around will check the latency spikes in windows 8.1. they might still be there ,but don't create the anoying micro-freezes, because ,well windows 8.1 is not as garbage as windows 10 is.

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#1834 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:02 pm (Last edited: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:03 pm)

Zitat von plutomaniac im Beitrag #1813
@ MonarchX:

I don't understand how you concluded that. It clearly states "If your firmware is currently v9.0 [..]". So no, you have 8.x and not 9.x.

That ASUS tool is useless, it just checks the os architecture and calls the appropriate FWUpdlcl tool. Nothing fancy. Use FWUpdate manually (how often do you actually update the ME?) or create a small batch script that calls it "automatically".

I think you are wrong, but I am not certain. I found out what the problem was for me. It was the fact that my MEI Firmware was already flashes to the latest version and I didn't realize that. If MEI Firmware was different, ASUS Tool would work perfectly fine. I tried it with an older MEI Firmware and it worked great, then I flashed back to the latest MEI Firmware for my motherboard.

The reason I was trying to flash was because because UBU, right after scanning hardware, tells me I do not have the latest version of MEI Firmware (or maybe it says I don't have the latest versio of MEI Firmware Update tools). It has a line with some MEI version number and "Latest: No" line. My Firmware IS the latest - I checked through official tools and in BIOS.

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#1835 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:31 pm (Last edited: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:32 pm)

Zitat von MonarchX im Beitrag #1840
The reason I was trying to flash was because because UBU, right after scanning hardware, tells me I do not have the latest version of MEI Firmware (or maybe it says I don't have the latest versio of MEI Firmware Update tools). It has a line with some MEI version number and "Latest: No" line.

You obviously made the same error in reasoning as me some days ago.
The ME Analyzer tool as part of the UBU package can check the Intel ME Firmware version, which is within the offered BIOS file, but knows nothing about the current Firmware version, which is within the BIOS chip of your mainboard (e.g. after having previously flashed a newer Firmware version). The already present newer ME Firmware version will not be touched by flashing a newer BIOS, which contains an older Intel ME Firmware version.

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#1836 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:46 pm (Last edited: Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:46 pm)

@ MonarchX:

If you want to use an intermediary (what that AsusTool is) then you can certainly do it. But you are only adding more points of failure, not making the already extremely easy way of updating the firmware any easier. Trust me when I tell you, you don't need that tool. Other than that, it's your system and you are entitled to your opinion.

UBU has nothing to do with ME Firmware as it modifies the BIOS and not ME region. These are not the same. UBU just calls MEA to help it's users to quickly identify if the ME firmware is updated or similar. As Fernando daid, you don't seem to understand the difference between the SPI chip and the SPI image you download from the OEM, so HERE.

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#1837 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:22 pm

Intel ME 11.0 Corporate PCH-H Firmware v11.0.0.1194

Note: For both CON/COR 1194 choose the correct subfolder (FIT & FPT or FWUpdate) based on what you want to do.

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#1838 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:42 pm

Intel ME 5 Corporate AMT Pro Firmware v5.2.71.1048

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#1839 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:25 pm (Last edited: Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:26 pm)

Intel ME 11.0 Consumer PCH-LP Firmware v11.0.0.1194

Intel ME 11.0 Corporate PCH-LP Firmware v11.0.0.1183

Note: For CON LP 1194 choose the correct subfolder (FIT & FPT or FWUpdate) based on what you want to do.

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#1840 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:44 pm (Last edited: Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:44 pm)

Intel ME 11.0 Corporate PCH-LP Firmware v11.0.0.1194

Intel ME 11.0 Consumer PCH-LP Firmware v11.0.0.1194 (EXTR --> RGN)

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#1841 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:36 pm

Hi Plutomaniac,
I tried to read carefully all the informations since page one, but there is one thing I cannot understand...
You wrote MEInfo is a valid tool to check if everything is ok BEFORE and after attempting any firmware update.
Now what if it is NOT ok? I mean I run it and gave me a long list of errors (all PMXutil related) and I don't know how to move from there:
PC is a "dated" Dell Optiplex 960 and inside its BIOS there are no MEI parts, according to ME Analyzer.
thanks

elisw has attached images to this post

MEI.GIF

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#1842 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:48 pm (Last edited: Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:50 pm)

@ elisw:

If you extract from the latest A18 bios the hdr and not rom, you can see the ME region in ME Analyzer and it's as MEInfo shows:

Don't forget that these tools are old at this point and since I haven't found anything new ME5-related (these tools are from 2009), they may not work properly under Windows 7, 8.x or 10. Can you run the DOS version of MEInfo either natively or via DOSBox and show me the result? It's interesting as I've never seen an output from a ME5 system. Also, I think these .dll error should go away when the operating system is taken out of the picture. Compatibility settings for Windows Vista or 7 might solve them as well.

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#1843 | RE: Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools datum

Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:38 pm (Last edited: Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:48 pm)

Zitat von plutomaniac im Beitrag #1848
Can you run the DOS version of MEInfo either natively or via DOSBox and show me the result? It's interesting as I've never seen an output from a ME5 system. Also, I think these .dll error should go away when the operating system is taken out of the picture. Compatibility settings for Windows Vista or 7 might solve them as well.

you were absolutely right.
here's the result:

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Copyright(C) 2005-08 Intel(R) Corporation. All Rights Reserved.
Intel(R) MEInfo Version: 5.0.0.1167

Trying to initialize heci...
Reading Fw Status Register....
FW Status Register: 0X300A065A

Manageability Mode is 1SKU is 2110Intel(R) Remote PC Assist Technology is disabled
GET Code versions
BIOS Version: A18
Intel(R) Active Management Technology code versions:
Flash: 5.2.71 Netstack: 5.2.71
Apps: 5.2.71 Intel(R) Active Management Technology: 5.2.71
FW Capabilities: 62
ASF2
Intel(R) AMT
Intel(R) Standard Manageability
Intel(R) QST
Intel(R) TPM

VendorID: 8086
Build Number: 1048

Manageability Mode: Intel(R) Active Management Technology
GET Intel(R) AMT STATE
Link status: Link up
Cryptography fuse: Enabled
Flash protection: Enabled
Last ME reset reason: Power up
GET PROVISIONING STATE COMMAND FOR THE PARAMETER CONFIGURATION STATE
Configuration state: In process
GET END OF POST STATE
BIOS boot State: Post Boot

GET MAC ADDRESS
MAC Address: 00-25-64-38-dc-50

GET FW UPDATE COUNTERS COMMAND FOR THE PARAMETER FWUPDATE COUNTER AND QUALIFIER PARMETERS
FWU Override Counter: Always
FWU Override Qualifier: Always

GET FLASH DESC OVERRIDE COMMAND

GetLanInterfaceSettings COMMAND FOR THE PARAMETER IP ADDRESS
IP Address: 192.168.178.31
MEBx Version: 5.1.0.20
FT Version: 5.2
FT Build Number: 1048
Local FWUpdate: Enabled
Secure FWUpdate: Enabled

GET RCS CAPABILITY
Remote Connectivity Service Capability: False
GET PROVISIONING MODE
Configuration Mode: Enterprise

TPM fuses (MCH/ICH/soft strap MCH/ soft strap ICH): Disabled
FW behavior on Flash Descriptor Override Pin-Strap: Halt