MSI GE72VR 7RF

Yes send me the bios you have made and I will tell you what is the resault :)

If it wont boot I will flash back the old one (not stock of course) and report you

This bios is a mess ;) thank you ;) still learning 👍🤪

Edit
Maybe fpt locks due to broken fit.

I was thinking about stuff you pointed for programer but as for now it works I don't change it, but thank you

So to summarize you did all 3 points that I have asked?

I know what is the result of the BIOS I made you, all same issues you just described
However, I don't remember from other user what was the outcome of the 1.35V edit, I don't think it failed though, just never loaded 1.35
But yes, if may make it not boot, or it may just auto-load 1.20 I can't remember for sure. If it fails to boot, then let me know and I will put back to 1.20

What microcode do you see loaded in windows with HWINFO64? With mod BIOS I made (70), or your previous (AE)? I'm curious to see if microcode is even loading due to the FIT being broken like that
Here's where to check in HFO64, if you were not already aware


https://ufile.io/3947zj26

If you want to resolve all the issues you mentioned, I prefer we start with a clean M-Flash BIOS, then I can unlock any settings you need visible in BIOS, properly do the ucode edits to padding remains and FIT is not broken, along with the ME FW stuff you wanted too.

And hey, I didn't mean anything bad towards you about the mod, only that a lot of it is not done properly and you are very lucky it's bootable.
At least you have programmer in hand already, so you are well ahead of a lot of other people that try to mod their own BIOS
I know we all have to learn, so I totally understand! Sorry if any of that sounded bad, I didn't mean it that way, only trying to convince you let's do it properly

I can help you to learn how to do the menu edits you need with AMIBCP, and how to fix via setup edit what you couldn't make visible with AMIBCP
And I can show you how to do the microcode edit properly, and then fix FIT too.

No, the FPT locks nothing to do with any of the issues I pointed out. This is a lock in place in BIOS module, either PCHInitDXE or PowerMgmtDxe, I just can't find it's exact location in this BIOS's modules

Yes, all things done you requested, change log is included in file

Best to order the better clip I linked when you have the spare $$, the cheap clip will quit working for you sooner rather than later. Sometimes few $$ cheaper on ebay
Sure it will start to fail when you really need it to work most (ie when you need to recover from a brick) that's when it will stop grabbing the BIOS legs and no longer work properly

I will report mem voltage after flashing and also ucode.

Previously it was loading AE version from I think 84 even due to broken fit.

I know you didn't mean anything bad 👍 it even sounded funny, when I was thinking about what this laptop came. And thats way I bought programer 🤪

By the way I manage to unlock my ala rebranded jumper ezbook with some guide.

I will contact you when I will have another holiday time from my main job, to teach me as I have msi ps63 8rc which is my office and content creation łap. But First I need to close my phd and work project. And then we can work on unlocking it

And I also have bios from my friends ryzen desktop platform to unlock for which I will try to work on during this week from tommorrow, as I am on holidays till end of the week.

Thank you for your help 👍👍

OK, yes, let me know how it goes! And if you want, when you have time, I will do edits to stock one properly, and show/describe as I do it, that way you can learn (we all have to learn sometime, and that's best way to learn, see it done step by step)

Good to hear you "think" it was loading AE microcode at least, that is a good sign, but it's still not ideal to have FIT broken, and you already describe some issues (it could all be related to that, the missing padding, or the abundance of unnecessary AMIBCP edits )

Yes, sorry if that sounded odd or mean, I didn't mean anything bad towards you, only really trying to talk you into doing it properly so you'd know how to do it on other BIOS too

MSI is a pain sometimes, but yes, I can unlock full menu for you there too Whenever you have time to get into that.
That one would be a MUCH more involved edit, something I probably couldn't teach you without making out some huge guide, because it's very time consuming and involved edit (have to replace a hidden item with a full menu instead and make it visible)
The edit isn't all that hard or time consuming, it's the gathering of details to then be able to finally do the actual edit.

You're welcome!

Just to inform you.

Flashed without issues with ch341a.

ME is downgrade fine and icc profiles work.

UCODE is reported as 70 in bios/throttlestop/hwinfo and for sure is loaded properly and working as Inspectre is not showing that cpu is spectre patched.

As for ram voltage as you predicted It was reseted to 1.2V but I didn't try to set it to 1.35 to be honest.

As for my Nvme issue it is still there. I needed to remove all drives reset whole laptop. Then boor to uefi as it restared in legacy mode. Disabled secure boot, set hard drive as only boot option. Power off. Insert Nvme. Power on. Enter bios and I needed to use boot override mode. After that I could insert 2 other sata hdd and enabled sata controler.

Oh god :) but from that point everything is working.

By the way, I can send you bios that was prepered for me by Svet to compare. It should be fine inside. But Then I didn't had Nvme drive so I cant tell if it is bios and platform specyfic problem with nvme or was f***** by some my later mods and or amibcp setting change.

BTW , do you know if for skylake/kabylake there is working same ucode glitch as for haswell to unlock oc bins. You know removing via hex some part of ucode?

In any case I can try everything if you want some experiments 🤪

Thanks for report back. Try this, leave all things connected. Always load optimized defaults after any BIOS flash or programming, then save and exit, reboot back to BIOS, then make any changes you need.
In this case, on that second reboot to BIOS, I would set SATA/UEFI/OS Type/Secure Boot stuff I need set, then save and reboot once more to BIOS, then set the boot device order
^^ This what I always do, since once you change SATA/UEFI type/CSM/ or OS Type/Secure Boot etc the drives are not yet recognized as they will be on reboot (So standard operating procedure to me) ^^
That may be what your experiencing that you're not used to or not expecting. That or you are not yet used to how to set boot device order in your BIOS, but I bet it's more that you just need to set everything other than this to what you want, then reboot back to BIOS and set the main boot device order.

The main issue I was pointing out to you, aside from way too many AMIBCP changes for no reason, was caused by an incorrect microcode update. So who ever / when ever / how ever that was done, this is when that occurred.
Good to hear 70 ucode is shown as loaded

I don't keep up with unlocking turbo bins or max multi etc, but research it out, and if you find it's true for your CPU type then I can do the mod for you (I've done for others, just don't keep it in my heads as it's not requested often)
ucode is never edited, only removed or not, and I think that edit method only applies to "Some" Xeons on certain chipsets, other than that the edit is certain ME FW + Certain ucode, with or without other BIOS module edit (ie unlock MSR 194 or something like that)

I tried to do some de serach in The past about 7700hq and The only mod that I have did find was bclk oc but it is sad that there is 3% limitation on kaby lake.

But I remember that some ucode from pre spectre was A bit glitched in some way, maybe 5e but don't remember, when you installed xtu on some ucode you got access to turbo ratios and you could manipulate them while for example on ucode 70 these are greyed. But there was no possibility to increase them but it might be good point to start. FOR me the perfect could be if turbo ratios was synced with 1 Core ratio, so all Core turbo would be 38 and no 34, I dont know if it can be hard mod/set in bios or some msr. I also dont know if flex ratio is not also responsible for oc bins. But in General I don't know The msr register for oc. Only one that can higher your max oc limit. It is 0x1ad but dont know rest.

Maybe try looking for 7770 (desktop type models) instead, but yes, it may be a general kaby or chipset issue, I am not sure as I mentioned I don't keep up with that kind of thing because it's rarely discussed.

Maybe @chinobino or @dsanke can tell us if bclk overclock or turbo bin manipulation, or max turbo is possible on i7-7700hq + hm175 chipset

I'll chip in what I do know.

For Kaby Lake base clock is limited to ~103 and no microcode or ME FW can overcome this limit as it was patched out by Intel.

Read this post from Prema talking about Skylake non-k oc;

Zitat von Prema im Beitrag Unblock non-K Skylake BCLK

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This is done via BIOS ME Interface overrides and not directly ME Firmware...
Important is to disable iGPU and CPU Turbo, the rest is in the pudding...
Also needs a board that is build to de-couple the BLCK clock from the rest of the board...
If the board is already not capable to OC a K-Series chip BCLK beyond 105-108Mhz then don't expect any miracles for a non-K chip either.

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@chinobino - Thanks, I thought so too, about Kaby, but wasn't 100% sure. Your first sentence ends it all here, since he has Kaby CPU

Wow @ WR only 102.69 Bclk!!

So, what does he specifically have to do for the all core turbo, any specific settings need set or not set? Do I need to do the MSR 194 edit?
Or, does he just have to find one of the above microcodes allow it by default?
Plus throttlestop stuff (which I know nothing about)? He'll have figure that part out, if you can't advise.

Throttlestop can modify the required MSR's for Turbo and Power Limits (the same way XTU and Intel Performance Maximizer do) and he already has microcode 0x70 so not really much for you to do.

Ok thank you, so I am at the limit of my CPU

just to inform you guys and to clarify I own a world record but didnt had much time to upload with bclk 102.98 i have around 3913 one core.

By the way cb scores are mine. Premia had around 780 cb15 then i scored 801 and he tried to beat me as I chalanged him but he achived only 790 score and my finał score in cb15 is 804 but didnt upload yet. And that was on much newer ucode.

Maybe now with 70 ucode and pre spectre Me FW I could do 1 od 2 points more as now I am seeing better response times, Nvme Speed is higher when benched solid scores of 3402-3440 and write above 2100. Previously i strugled to get 3200 and 1900 with the same level of disk filling
Also Aida is now giving me better transfers for memory around 300-400 MB more than with latest me and ae (80/8e/84/ba/c6) ucode.

And as for the mem, what do you think guys, how much can I achive with setting mem at 1 35 with taiphoon and tweaking timings to let say ci 16 or 17 and doing higher frequency.
Now I am running 3300 18-20-20-38-1T at 1.2V and starter to think if is worth spending money on taiphoon?

Can you write SPD to the RAM on that chipset?

AFAIK Intel blocked writing to SMBus addresses 50h - 57h for the 8-series chipsets and above.

On my Z370 I have a BIOS option 'Memory SPD Write' that I can enable but I doubt you'd have that on the HM175.

I think you would need a SO-DIMM EEPROM programmer to write to the RAM.

If you speak about this I think I have it but don't know if working

Is there possibility to flash spd voltage without taiphoon but with some other tool like św?

FPRR effects ability to write to laptop flash EEPROMs and not RAM.

The problem is that the SMBUS is blocked from allowing writes to the address ranges where SPD data is kept.

AFAIK no software can bypass this, it the lock needs to be enabled when the PC boots.