Please put all those images in a zip. If you are not asked Full/Intact or quick, then it may only update BIOS region during the update, Full BIOS reflash only happens when not asked and it's programmed to update ME FW also.
It may not always update ME FW, that's why I wanted you to test this, since you want ME FW disabled, ME FW needs reflashed, so if you flash BIOS via Qflash and it doesn't ask this, then ME FW may or may not be flashed and you'll possibly have to FPT flash the ME FW and then do a FPT -greset.

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #74

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@PitKoz:
Your meanwhile changed thread title was longer than required. That is why I have customized it again and hope, that it is ok for you.

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Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #76

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It may not always update ME FW, that's why I wanted you to test this, since you want ME FW disabled, ME FW needs to be reflashed, so if you flash BIOS via Qflash and it doesn't ask this, then ME FW may or may not be flashed and you'll possibly have to FPT flash the ME FW and then do an FPT -greset.

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@PitKoz - BIOS Is ready for you!!

On the ME FW, I do that for you. We don't know if Qflash will put in the ME FW, that is all I meant, since you do not get asked Full/Intact or quick update.
The only way we know is flash it, and see if ME is then disabled, you can't tell by the progress screen %. There is no unsubscribe or disable BIOS option for Intel ME, in F6 or any BIOS. Q-BIOS is not a thing, sorry, not sure what you mean there.

Yes, if you flash BIOS, all is reset and you'd have to apply setting again, this is normal. Always load optimized defaults first, after all BIOS flashes, then make all other changes you need before you exit to windows (RAID very important to set if you use RAID, never forget this!).

Below is two BIOS, first pick either and flash it with Qflash. Then in windows check if ME FW version is shown as N/A or 0.0.0.0 in HWInfo64 (or no ME area shown at all)
If it's not, and you can see ME and it's version, then Qflash didn't update the ME FW region. If this happens you will need to do it with FPT instead, use the included extracted ME FW region and the following commands (both!)
FPTw.exe -me -f me.bin
FPTw.exe -greset

If system does not automatically reboot after you enter the -greset command, shut down, remove power cable from wall or remove 8/24 pin from motherboard, then press and hold the case power on button for 10-15 seconds.
Then, let system sit for one minute without power. Then connect the power supply back to the board, boot up, enter BIOS, load optimized defaults, make any other changes you need, then boot to windows and you're done and can carry on with your RST testing./
This ME update process will only need done once, once it's there it will remain until you again flash some other enabled ME FW manually. So you don't need to do it if you switch between either of these BIOS.

Heads up now, ME FW disabled can make fans run 100%, can make memory timings or speed be incorrect, can cause CPU to run erratically, can make it so you can't overclock etc.

Both BIOS are based on F8, both have F6 CPU microcodes (so no spectre/Meltdown patches, which is what I thought was possibly hurting your performance due to Spectre/Meltdown fixes, but this not case, see below).
Watch out for Windows updates, especially win8-10, they will insert their own microcodes on the OS level and performance would again get a hit
Actually, looking at these microcode versions in F8, they are not Spectre/meltdown version (Too old), but still may be causing the performance hit you noticed

#1 - V13 RST = 13.5.0.2164 (Stock BIOS RST version, so no change here for RST, except I swapped the legacy orom one for one with TRIM mod)
#2 - V14 RST = 14.8.2.2397 + I did TRIM mod

For each, you need to use matching version drivers. Since you are using RAID, always have a backup made or be ready to recover array if something goes wrong with the array while switching BIOS or drivers

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...770470198719486

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #78

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The only way we know is to flash it and see if IME is then disabled, you can't tell by the progress screen %. There is no unsubscribe or disable BIOS option for Intel ME, in F6 or any BIOS. Q-BIOS is not a thing, sorry, not sure what you mean there.

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OK, I wasn't sure what you mean. No, there is never such a ME FW option in the BIOS for any system or BIOS.

yes, that is the point of the joke :)

@Fernando
@Lost_N_BIOS

hmmm, I have problem with downloading fptw64.exe
can you provide me download link?
all google links I have found are not valid atm...
Or blocked by FF and MB...

OK finally found like after 20 times fail proper distribution of
software:
http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/too...0v11.0%20r1.rar


OK now ready to start test (I hope the final change to BIOS) 03.58 2019 09 08 keep fingers cross :)

@pitKozFPTw64 was never suggested by anyone here, however, both FPTw and FPTw64 come in the ME System Tools folder here in section "C"
Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools

Again, DO NOT FLASH the BIOS I sent you with FPT!!!!

I mentioned, possibly, using FPTw.exe (Not FPTw64), and only if ME FW does not get updated/reflashed with the disabled one after Qflash BIOS Update.
After Qflash update, check in BIOS or in windows for ME FW version, if it's then 0.0.0.0 or N/A then ME FW was flashed already by Qflash

@Lost_N_BIOS
I never had any idea to flash it with FPT I understand from the first time I saw this procedure that it is only for Intel Firmware purpose.

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #83

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@pitKozFPTw64 was never suggested by anyone here, however, both FPTw and FPTw64 come in the ME System Tools folder here in section "C"
Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools

Again, DO NOT FLASH the BIOS I sent you with FPT!!!!

I mentioned, possibly, using FPTw.exe (Not FPTw64), and only if ME FW does not get updated/reflashed with the disabled one after Qflash BIOS Update.
After Qflash update, check-in BIOS or in windows for ME FW version, if it's then 0.0.0.0 or N/A then ME FW was flashed already by Qflash

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Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #83

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After Qflash update, check in BIOS or in windows for ME FW version, if it's then 0.0.0.0 or N/A then ME FW was flashed already by Qflash

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Maybe your END key doesn't work? It's OK, I often use Qflash while in BIOS anyway too (F8)

Performance may be worse by default anyway, since you wanted disabled ME FW. YOu didn't give any specifics, so I can't comment more than that.
If you want to go back to F6 with all the same changes let me know.

Yes, FPTw and FPTw64 are both windows versions, there is a DOS FPT too (and linux and EFI version as well)

Your USB GPT issue, I don't know, only you can format a USB from MBR to GPT, or convert etc. This isn't something that magically happens on accident

I don't think Gigabyte BIOS show ME FW version in BIOS, you will have to check with HWINFO64 and on the large window on left side, expand motherboard and find ME area, inside that get the ME Firmware version.
Or, you can also use this Intel Security check tool, it shows current ME FW version at bottom - http://www.filedropper.com/get-me-version

@Lost_N_BIOS
OK and Thank you for a million.
here is what is in the result of "get me version":
Risk Assessment
Based on the analysis performed by this tool: Detection Error: This system may be vulnerable, either the Intel(R) MEI/TXEI driver is not installed (available from your system manufacturer) or the system manufacturer does not permit access to the ME/TXE from the host driver.

For more information refer to the INTEL-SA-00086 Detection Tool Guide or the Intel Security Advisory Intel-SA-00086 at the following link: https://www.intel.com/sa-00086-support

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #85

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Your USB GPT issue, I don't know, only you can format a USB from MBR to GPT, or convert etc. This isn't something that magically happens on accident

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ON USB, I mean this is something you had to manually format to GPT or MBR, this doesn't happen by itself, and there is no BIOS setting to format USB or change a partition type etc.
If USB is GPT partition, then yes, some BIOS may not see it unless you are in Secure Boot / UEFI Mode, but I'm not certain about that and how/when it would apply.
MBR formatted USB would always be visible, probably same to BIOS for GPT too, but I'm not sure if that would apply to every location in the BIOS where you could possibly see USB sticks.

Since you can see ME FW version, You have not flashed ME FW yet, so Qflash didn't flash it. Do the FPT flash I mentioned.
It's possible though, that this Intel tool can detect it even if it's disabled, so please confirm with HWINFO64 and on the large window on left side, expand motherboard and find ME area as shown below.
If you see ME, then it's not disabled, do the FPT flash as I originally mentioned and do not forget the -greset second command to do after flash either.


Yes, I can always do similar updated to F6 if you want.

Marvell is only good for storage, don't expect "performance" from this controller.

I don't know, RAID1 general expectations, slower than RAID0 and slow as a single disk I would imagine.

@Lost_N_BIOS

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #87

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I don't know, RAID1 general expectations, slower than RAID0 and slow as a single disk I would imagine.

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@Lost_N_BIOS

Dear Lost, I am now lost more :)

please, some instructions :)

Error 367: [FPTw.exe]



shall I use fptw64?
no, same error:

Error 367: [FPTw64.exe]
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Hi, @Lost_N_BIOS ,

OK, how can I go back to F6 BIOS?
You mentioned that there must be done kind of trick/procedure to do it successfully?

Thank You in Advance,
Peter

Yes, I told you, if you wanted to have disabled ME then you had to flash how I mentioned all along since Qflash does not always update ME FW (especially if not asked full/intact or quick)
Yes, do not use FPTw64 when I told you to use FPTw, always follow directions with FPT or you can brick your system in one click. And, you need to use the correct FPT version from the proper ME System Tools Package.
You need ME System Tools package V9.1 from section C in this thread - Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools

First, fully test F8 that you asked me so long to modify for you, you still have not even flashed in the ME FW Disabled you wanted from the get-go.

To go back to F6 I will have to make you new BIOS again, and then it will be flashed via FPT (DO NOT attempt this yourself without BIOS I make for you and instructions I give)