I will kill the motherboard if i will solder and unsolder ic chip 6 more times! Also bios chip on this mother board is near pch and every time it's hit by hot air... it's really insane to continue this way as pcb and chis are not designed to take su much heat.

Tested all 6 dumps same result as before!
Only SetBCPS.bin adds settings to battery charge configuration
and only AMITBCPS.bin add Save and exit but with some other menus
other files do nothing!

One more question is there a way to extract ec controller firmware from .hdr file and flash it somehow?

@code9523 - Sorry, I assumed you had SOIC8 test clip. Please order one now, so you'll have in the future, they only cost $3.50 - https://www.ebay.com/itm/382486015977

Thanks for your testing results, this is info I needed to know, sorry it seemed like a big hassle to test all that. You should have mentioned no cable sooner and I would have told you what plutomaniac did

plutomaniac - Thanks for mentioning this before I got here

EC FW must match BIOS usually, so yes, you can program it with your programmer, but since you can't use stock BIOS region I assume trying stock EC FW with your ES BIOS will only brick the system (or do nothing)
Additionally, the EC FW included in the package is an in-place upgrade, meaning it requires in-place EC FW to update over, it's not complete and not exact full size either, so I doubt it could ever be used for this type of testing anyway.
Again, as I mentioned 100 times already, you erased the ES EC FW, there is nothing we can do about this now, please forget about it and lets not discuss, NOTHING you can do now.

I will unlock rest of BIOS for you now, please wait. Also, from now on, I will only send BIOS region files, so you can flash all test BIOS >> FPTw.exe -bios -filename.bin

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #64

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@code9523 - Sorry, I assumed you had SOIC8 test clip. Please order one now, so you'll have in the future, they only cost $3.50 - https://www.ebay.com/itm/382486015977

Thanks for your testing results, this is info I needed to know, sorry it seemed like a big hassle to test all that. You should have mentioned no cable sooner and I would have told you what plutomaniac did

plutomaniac - Thanks for mentioning this before I got here

EC FW must match BIOS usually, so yes, you can program it with your programmer, but since you can't use stock BIOS region I assume trying stock EC FW with your ES BIOS will only brick the system (or do nothing)
Additionally, the EC FW included in the package is an in-place upgrade, meaning it requires in-place EC FW to update over, it's not complete and not exact full size either, so I doubt it could ever be used for this type of testing anyway.
Again, as I mentioned 100 times already, you erased the ES EC FW, there is nothing we can do about this now, please forget about it and lets not discuss, NOTHING you can do now.

I will unlock rest of BIOS for you now, please wait. Also, from now on, I will only send BIOS region files, so you can flash all test BIOS >> FPTw.exe -bios -filename.bin

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No boards are write protected from SOIC8 clip. Simply you are not using it correctly, or using wrong software for the chip you are trying, or bad connection etc.
Sometimes chip can be protected, super rare, which you can undue with ASProgrammer software

Yes, nothing special happened when you erased the chip, except you erased it and did not have a valid dump from the chip before you did that. We've discussed this at length and I'm not going to argue with you about it anymore.
If you can flash this EC FW, then flash it, you don't need to ask us about it. I agree, always flash BIOS and EC at same time if EC update provided, and always matching BIOS/EC from same series etc. This applies to all systems
None of what we've discussed above here about EC applies to you, because you do not have a copy of the EC FW, you erased it and didn't make a valid dump before you did that. I know, as you mentioned 100 times, you think it was blank already, I say it was not, so here we are again.
I am done discussing EC FW, please do not mention it again or I will leave this thread. I'm not trying to be crabby about it, but we've already discussed this plenty and there is no where to go unless and until you purchase another of these exact systems and dump it's EC FW

There is no HDR file for this system, additionally, again, you cannot use stock BIOS region, so you would also not be able to use stock EC FW either, due to previous statement @BIOS region.
Yes, in stock BIOS there is EC File (Update only, non-complete), but you cannot use stock BIOS region, thus you cannot use stock EC update (even if you had complete file, dumped from other system).
To your last line, you do not have pre-production FW, you erased it....................................................... So again, we're done with this, due to all the above.
There is no possible move here for you to make with stock BIOS region, nor the partial EC FW update included in the EXE (no HDR anywhere here, only .rom, but that is not relevant to anything) Yes, you can extract the rom as HDR if you want, but it's still a .rom file
And speaking of HDR/Rom, you already have the partial EC FW file you want anyway, it's in the rom you can extract from the exe.

Generally speaking, the EC FW may have nothing to do with AlienFX lighting anyway, maybe to enable if disabled, but I think the main control for this is in GUID - C118F50D-391D-45F4-B3D3-11BC931AA56D

* Edit - I planned to make you a few test BIOS with some vBIOS changes, however, they all may require programmer recovery.
Do you want to test those and risk having to recover with programmer, or is this something you'd rather not do? I planned at least two, one with updated GOP/vBIOS and another with same but panel settings changed to something other than 1024x768 to see what affect this has on the things you mentioned screen changing affects.

I dont want to update vbios as i mention before this one i have is fine for me. It's fully unlocked with better performance than AW 17 R4 OC vbios so i preffer to keep it as it is. Any way i can recover by programmer its not a big deal.

I am talking about vBIOS and GOP modules inside the main BIOS, not the vBIOS on the card itself (Which is what you are talking about).
But yes, since it may be hassle for you to recovery, maybe we'll save that testing until the end.

I can recovery this is not a problem for me. Also I asked one friend to dump all bios and 1mb chip from same board but it's regular one. And now i'm confused. I have 16mb and 1 mb dumps. I cant open 16mb dump by any intel flash image tool it gives an error. I opened it by UEFI tool and it says UEFI image insted of Intel image as it opened all dumps before. I even flased it on the board but it do nothing... no fan spin only cpu error after minute of pressing power button. Also bios chip on regular board is w25q128jv its 16mb one. Can board or firmware detect different chip and prevent boot?

Good you can recover, I knew that, but when you reminded me it's a hassle/solder each time I know that's a pain in the rear
As mentioned at length, retail board BIOS/EC etc have nothing to do with this board, stop looking at them, stop wasting your time, nothing you can do there.
No, board/chip can't prevent boot due to whatever BIOS chip is used, it can stop writing to BIOS with software sometimes if chip not there, but nothing like that going on here. You already tested stock BIOS I made for you on this board, it does not work, forget about this.
Best outcome you can have will be unlock BIOS I make you, and hopefully that will help you deal with some of the issues. If not, then we can tinker with vBIOS (The one in BIOS) and see if we can get your 17" to act same/similar as the 15" and slow the fans down more.

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #70

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Good you can recover, I knew that, but when you reminded me it's a hassle/solder each time I know that's a pain in the rear
As mentioned at length, retail board BIOS/EC etc have nothing to do with this board, stop looking at them, stop wasting your time, nothing you can do there.
No, board/chip can't prevent boot due to whatever BIOS chip is used, it can stop writing to BIOS with software sometimes if chip not there, but nothing like that going on here. You already tested stock BIOS I made for you on this board, it does not work, forget about this.
Best outcome you can have will be unlock BIOS I make you, and hopefully that will help you deal with some of the issues. If not, then we can tinker with vBIOS (The one in BIOS) and see if we can get your 17" to act same/similar as the 15" and slow the fans down more.

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ME analyzer tool only shows you what FITc version was used to create/compile the BIOS, it doesn't show any "needed version" Current v12 version is 12.0.37.1429, but this one doesn't work with your BIOS (Retail or ES)
Your ES BIOS can only be opened with v12.0.0.1020 or 12.0.0.1069 if you can find it (doesn't matter, you can use 1020 and it's fine). I'll send you a PM with latest and 12.0.0.1020
In general, this tool is part of the ME System Tools package from this page, in section "C" in the V12 package you'll find the latest version mentioned above (also in the PM I sent you) - Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools

I thought you don't have a 1MB dump, you erased it and didn't get a proper backup first? That may be the AlienFX and not EC so maybe not same, either way, same as we've discussed, you don't have ES version unless you have the dump from this chip, and if you do yes, it wouldn't work with retail stuff only the ES BIOS.
I checked the file, that is not EC as you suspected. EC chip will probably be 128KB-512KB, if it's not another 1MB chip too. This dump only contains a few lines of data, I doubt this controls anything, it doesn't look like EC FW to me, nor anything that controls LED functionality either.
This dump, much like I mentioned with your "Blank" EC FW dump initially, may not be a proper valid dump, ie this dumps contents may not be all/what is actually on that chip. Or, it could be proper, just not actually used in this ES testing persons testing duties during the time he had it all setup.
Seems pointless to have such tiny amount of data on a chip, however since it's ES that may be normal and it's not filled with data due to non-functional and not setup correctly.

Or, it very well may be part of the AlienFX control data, but certainly not the entire FW or anything like that, maybe just the "Saved Settings" or something small like this.
This is the only actual data there, which I know you've seen, but when you look at it here in total you can see it's not much of anything so can't be FW itself

Thank you! And I wait for something to test.

OK, will make you unlocked BIOS shortly. You asked a while back about Fan setting in "Performance Options" in Advanced page. What all can you see on this page? Please show me image of this page, thanks

Here you are. It doesnt matter if i enable or disable fan performance mode it will spinn the same may be little louder.