hello,
I hope somebody can help me with add menus for this device, it has a core m 5y10c, I really want to edit TDP settings. I already tried to use AMIBCP to make all those menu as USER access, but nothing happened....
here is the BIOS file I saved with programmer.[[File:livacore.zip]]
Thanks in advance.

@sinlessx - Please send a zipped package of a single BIOS image from each main BIOS page you can currently see, this way I know what you can already see
Also, please download ME System Tools package V10 from this thread in section "C" - t596f39-Intel-Management-Engine-Drivers-Firmware-amp-System-Tools
Inside go to MEInfo, then select the Win32 folder, hold shift and press right click, choose open command window here (Not PowerShell)
Then type the following command and show me the bottom of the report (Need to check Measured & Verified Boot, if enabled on left/FPF side you cannot mod BIOS) >> MEInfoWin.exe -verbose

On the TDP settings you tried to enable, were those the ones in the menu that's already currently visible to you? I mean, at the menus that I assume you can see by default (At top, inside setup/setup in AMIBCP), then in the Tweak Menu, I see TDP setting and a few related ones, are those the ones you tried to enable already?
If yes, does your main BIOS page show "User Access Level"? If yes, what does it show, admin? If it shows Admin, set Access level to Supervisor at the setting you want to enable, instead of User - this only applies to the settings within menus currently visible to you
This may not work still, but this is how you should try that first, for that particular TDP setting. If it fails to show, then you need to unsuppress it in the setup module, which I can do or show you how to do later once we get everything started.

If you want to simply change settings, without making an unlocked BIOS, you can edit any/all the actual settings default values with AMIBCP, even for menus and settings you can't see, all you do is change it to what you want the default applied value to be, then flash it in.

Good you have flash programmer and can recovery, I'm sure I can figure this out for you, many ways to make it all visible, but it will possibly take some testing rounds of BIOS before we get it all sorted out.

Hi @Lost_N_BIOS
I already tried to use AMIBCP to edit the default settings, but nothing happened (the TDP info in AIDA64- CPUID part never changed). I also use another method somebody posted before, to use grub uefi shell to edit register raw data,still without success :(
this BIOS don't display anything related to user access level, and there's nothing id tweak menu can be edited...
Here's the MEverbose log and all main section photo of the BIOS menu
Thanks again

@sinlessx - What exactly did you change, and what did you expect to see in AIDA64? Show me image of the setting default you changed in AMIBCP, and where you are expecting to see this change in AIDA64, so I know exactly what you mean you did that didn't work how you expected

On the Tweak menu, check this image below, did you test setting User and Supervisor here already, one at a time and neither way made these submenu's visible to you? I'm not saying it should have made visible, only asking if you tried both User/Supervisor at this exact location, and what happened if anything


Don't worry, I can make visible for you, just gathering info on stuff first and what you already did that didn't work so I know "XX" alone does not change things, so need to do "XXZ" first, then test that by itself and with "XX" also on top of that.
Some BIOS need other things edited first before AMIBCP changes can work, sometimes 2-3 things first, and other times only the other edits work and then if you add some AMIBCP change on top of that it causes them to fail.
It's always a little juggle to figure out what works and how to do it, especially when you don't have the system yourself

Good news on the MEInfo report, Boot Guard is not properly enabled at the FPF side, so it can't be enabled and you can safely flash edited BIOS.
Thanks for images, now I can see, yes a lot is hidden from you even in the enabled/visible menus!

Here, as quick informational test for both of us, does this BIOS enable a ____CRB Main_____ menu at bottom of Main BIOS page, and if yes, what happens when you go into it, do you see a new Main menu?
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...478504929799403

Please test in the following order, don't skip any, and stop when you see ____CRB Main_____ at bottom of main page, and can enter that submenu and see new Main menu, let me know name of that BIOS.
If none do as mentioned, then good, at least we know all those methods fail for this thing. Figuring out this one thing will help me unlock the rest for you.

F1
F2
F3

F4
F5
F6

F7

F7 = Last BIOS to test, even if others work before this (Stop once it does), but also test this last BIOS too as it's meant to test a different thing, here I switched Main with hidden main in AMITSE Module and need to know outcome if it fails to show new main, bricks the board etc
On this BIOS, and the others, once you do see new main, check User Access Level at bottom and tell me what it says (If you don't see that setting but do get into new main, let me know and I will enable it)

@Lost_N_BIOS
Hi, thank you very much, followed your instructions, I flashed from F1 and finally the CRB menu became visible with F4, and I stopped the test right after that. in the CRB MENU the access level displayed as administrator. but then i try to unlock other menu use amibcp, then after i click save, the amibcp just crash, and F4.bin also broken and cannot be opened agagin.
Yesterday I edited all menu section with access level 'user' I didn't try supervisor.
and for the TDP part, in AIDA64, current in CPUID menu, it shows:
short duration power limit: 15W 2.44ms(locked)
long duration power limit: 6W 28s(locked)
I want to change this in order to get full performance.I already mod the heatsink to make sure the temperature is fine for cpu itself. Once I did that on a HP 800G1 DM with basic unlock menu method(eg. mod setup pe32 image 01010001->01010101)
If possible please unlock as much menu as possible
thanks again

And I'm also trying to unlock menu for my asus x202e laptop for the same reason, but still without success...
I referenced this [Request] How to unlock Advanced/Chipset Menus for Haier-Y11C
I think the asus bios also need amitse mod(i think you also did this with liva core bios)
but i cannot found string start with 4a 10 59...........
If possible please let me know how to know the hex code need to be search&change in amitse bin file

Thanks for the info, now I can unlock all BIOS for you. You can only enable to be visible "Some" settings in "Currently Visible" Menus only, and that will only work on ones that are not "Suppressed" within the setup module, to edit that you need to extract the setup PE32 module and the get IFR output from it using Universal IFR Extractor
Then hex edit the settings you want unsuppressed by moving the "End If" following each suppressed setting to be in front of the setting instead of after (So nothing is within the suppression constraints). This is not an easy thing to do, especially with many settings possibly needing it vs 1-2, if you are not familiar with hex editing
It's easy once you get the hang of it, but it's tedious on a BIOS where you have to do it to each setting. Below is an example of how to do this edit, which I made on the BIOS F4-F6 above to ____CRB MAIN___, shown via IFR output, but you make the actual edit in hex

Some BIOS you do as you see below, others you can FF the "cause" of the suppression (which I did for BIOS F1-F3 as test) - this example that is QuestionId: 0x52C equals value 0x55 {12 86 2C 05 55 00} << FF the 55
But as you tested that method didn't work in this BIOS, so this comment only informational for you or others later

Here is the actual edit, that you proved worked via BIOS F4 (F4-F6 have this edit)

Original "Suppressed ___CRB MAIN___" (See how the CRB MAIN submenu is "Within" a suppressed constraint, everything (Setting or submenu) between Suppress If and End If gets suppressed (Hidden)
Suppress If {0A 82}
QuestionId: 0x52C equals value 0x55 {12 86 2C 05 55 00}
Not {17 02}
End {29 02}
Subtitle: Statement.Prompt: , Flags: 0x0 {02 87 02 00 00 00 00}
End {29 02}
Ref: _______ CRB Main _______, VarStoreInfo (VarOffset/VarName): 0xFFFF, VarStore: 0x0, QuestionId: 0x14, FormId: 0x2711 {0F 0F 47 0E 02 00 14 00 00 00 FF FF 00 11 27}
End If {29 02}
End Form {29 02}


Edit that works for your BIOS, at this example (Others may need other edit)
Suppress If {0A 82}
QuestionId: 0x52C equals value 0x55 {12 86 2C 05 55 00}
Not {17 02}
End {29 02}
Subtitle: Statement.Prompt: , Flags: 0x0 {02 87 02 00 00 00 00}
End {29 02}
End If {29 02} << Moved the "End If" to above/before the actual setting/submenu we need to expose, so you see below now it's not "Within" suppression=visible
Ref: _______ CRB Main _______, VarStoreInfo (VarOffset/VarName): 0xFFFF, VarStore: 0x0, QuestionId: 0x14, FormId: 0x2711 {0F 0F 47 0E 02 00 14 00 00 00 FF FF 00 11 27}
End Form {29 02}

Here is Universal IFR extractors, use this with extracted Setup PE32 module (As-is, or body, but always insert back same way you extracted), use UEFITool 25.0 to extract and replace (26 may work, but untested on your BIOS since I used 25 previously)
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...498864893587753
https://github.com/LongSoft/UEFITool/releases/tag/0.25.0

For the Long and Short Power duration limits, this can be unlocked at your currently visible "Tweak" Menu, unsuppress and ungray out "CPU OverClocking Configuration" submenu.
Do only that, then check within and see if settings visible or not, then if not unsuppress Long Duration Power Limit Override (1+2) and a few settings under those you'll want visible too

For other similar settings, within the second "Advanced" >> outside setup in AMIBCP, @ CPU Config >> CPU Power wattage limits, Package power limits/locks etc, you'll have to wait until I get that menu enabled for you (Need test result from F7 first, before thinking how to move forward on that)
If AMIBCP is crashing on you, then you aren't using best one for that BIOS (No issues here with 5.02.0031 - didn't test 5.02.0023) You can et 5.02.0031 here - Unlock Aptio V Z170 Board Menu Chipset unhide and other Menu
No need for AMIBCP edits mainly, for now anyway, your test with F1-F4 showed only setup PE32 module was needed to enable hidden submenu, and you didn't need AMIBCP edits to make it work
F5-F6 was same as F4 but had on top of that edit AMIBCP edit too as test, in case needed etc - and not needed since F4 worked, without AMIBCP Edit

Please slow down! As mentioned, this is a process, and I only sent you those BIOS as a test, it was not meant to unlock the BIOS for you, only to let me know how your BIOS reacts to different mod methods and which is needed for what.
I will eventually unlock it all for you, please be patient, I don't have this system so I can't edit, test, edit, test, confirm this, change that etc on my end. And yes, once done I will tell you and show you what all edits need made.
No, it's nothing like the simple HP BIOS mod menu edit you mention, that only applies to some limited older BIOS

I need to know and am still waiting on test result from you for BIOS F7, please let me know on that one as soon as you can, thanks!

On the Asus X202e, I can try to do that one for you too later, send me FPT BIOS region dump from that system. This one will be easier, and probably a lot more AMITSE edit instead of Setup edit.
Nope, no AMITSE, I checked stock BIOS already, this one has the easy 0101000101 type edit at setup PE32 module, to enable chipset
If you are unsure, here's how to do that >> Check BIOS main page and see if ME FW version is shown, if not then download HWINFO64 and on the large window on left side, expand motherboard and find ME area, inside that get the ME Firmware version.
Once you have that, go to this thread and in the section "C" download the matching ME System Tools Package (ie if ME FW version = 10.x get V10 package, if 9.0-9.1 get V9.1 package, if 9.5 or above get V9.5 package etc)
Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools

Once downloaded, inside you will find Flash Programming Tool folder, and inside that a Windows or Win/Win32 folder. Select that Win folder, hold shift and press right click, choose open command window here (Not power shell).
At the command prompt type the following command and send me the created file to modify >> FPTw.exe -bios -d biosreg.bin

Hi,
Thanks for the information, and sorry for my late, i don't know why but use afuwinx64.exe xxx /gan will brick this board, so every time i test a bios file i need to sloder the chip and use programmar.
I just tested F7, it worked just as you expected, the CRB menu became the new main menu.

for Asus part i did exactly as you said, i use afuwin to read the original bios, use uefi tool to get setup pe32 image, then use IFR extractor to get the txt :
0x2B00E Main (0x6)
0x36379 Advanced (0x23)
0x3CAD4 Chipset (0x25)
0x4433F Boot (0x27)
0x45044 Security (0x46)
0x460AA Save & Exit (0x58)
then hex edit pe32 image from 0101000101 to 0101010101, then replaced pe32 image back and flash..but nothing happened...
just put asus later...
thanks again:)

Purchase a SOIC8 test clip with cable, then no need to solder/desolder!! They cost only $3.50 on ebay, let me know if you need a link to example of this. Very sorry about having you test all those BIOS, I didn't know you were soldering for these tests!

Don't use AFU for flashing then, you can use Intel FPT to just reflash the BIOS region. First, put on any BIOS with unlocked FD via programmer, then remember to always unlock FD any time after that you flash in a BIOS (I normally always do this, so it's done on BIOS I send you from here on out - not earlier BIOS since that was only quick test)
BIOS Lock is disabled by default, so no changed needed there. I gave you info on using FPT above, for the Asus board, you can use on this one too but different ME System Tools package will be needed

To dump BIOS Region, admin CMD Prompt >> FPTw.exe -bios -d biosreg.bin
To flash BIOS Region only >>FPTw.exe -bios -f modbiosreg.bin

Here, put on this BIOS with programmer, it's stock BIOS with unlocked FD. Then after this, no need to solder/desolder anymore for testing BIOS (except in brick situation, until you get SOIC8 test clip cable)
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...869011598032436

And see here, second spoiler, first image, for how to always unlock FD in any/all BIOS you flash in the future, do it before you flash. However, normally, if we are testing mod BIOS, flash via FPT, we only flash "BIOS Region" so unlock FD will stay on the board anyway once you program it there (unless you forget the -bios flag with FPT flash and a locked FD BIOS)
[Guide] Unlock Intel Flash Descriptor Read/Write Access Permissions for SPI Servicing

Thanks for F7 BIOS report, and it's good to see this easy switch method will work! That was AMITSE PE32 body edit, only two bytes changed is all that was edited in that entire BIOS
Edit was at 00001F20. All visible menu list there, from setup IFR menu "FormID's" when you look at those, each menu there is two FormID's search and you will see, two main, two advanced etc. The list there is the visible ones (1D 27 for original visible main, I switched in blocked one instead 11 27)

Here is AMITSE spoiler info for you!

Hi,
bad news again...
i cannot use fptw on this unit.
it displayed error 366:fail to load driver (pci access for windows)
i'm sure i run as admin
and i also test fptw under pe environment.the same...
i just ordered soic 8 test clip

for asus part...
I edit that 0101... and change chipset to user/supervisor, still cannot see chipset
and i found out that my unit is actually asus s200e, a slim version of x202e.
the stock bios should be X202EAS.210.CAP
but as asus easy flash cannot flash the same version again, i dump & flash using afuwin
and also attach them

That FPT error simply means you need to install ME drivers (Or use DOS version), and or yes, it must be ran as Admin for sure, here's how
Go to Flash Programming Tool folder, and inside that a Windows or Win/Win32 folder. Select that Win folder, hold shift and press right click, choose open command window here (Not power shell), then type command
If you are stuck on Win10 and cannot easily get command prompt, and method I mentioned above does not work for you, here is some links that should help
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-add-c...creators-update
https://www.windowscentral.com/add-open-...menu-windows-10
https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/open-...ator-privileges

If you can't get it, show me image of the FPT command window in it's entirety, so I can see the window frame/title and the command e and error after
Do not run in PE environment, windows only or DOS

Thanks for correct Asus model, I will check it out and get back to you. This system can FPT flash too (Check ME version first and get correct tools package), no need for AFU
AFU is terrible, I would never advise anyone use it only as last resort never first! It's not so bad I suppose, if you use the correct version per the BIOS you are flashing, not V3 DOS w/GAN for anything modern! (For this BIOS, AFU V4 only)
But still, other methods are safer and more reliable - and actually, that BIOS use Winflash as stock method - https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/nb/Ap...n8_64_Z2411.zip
I can give you non-Asus version later, wont have restrictions about same version or mod etc, I think I have one. Never mind, that is same exact BIOS I already checked for the other model you mentioned, both have same BIOS.

On test clip, make sure you get one that says it comes with cable (Many do not, even when image shows cable)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/382486015977

* Edit - @sinlessx - Here is new test BIOS, switched Main, Advanced, Chipset + Unsuppress "Tweak" Stuff in setup
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil...124788160911444

Please send all new images of Main, Tweak, and All visible submenu's within advanced. Anything you see missing in Chipset's 3x submenus that you need, let me know or show me images of all inside those three submenus too so I can see what's visible and what's not.
I need to see this because I made no edits done here for submenus or settings, only edits to switch the Main, Adv + Chipset menus and see if the minimal edit enables it all, sometimes that's all you need and less is best.
This applies to all menus except for the Tweak menu, it was left as default and I unsuppressed the 2x submenus that were hidden but did not touch the settings, so if settings missing in submenus vs what you see in AMIBCP send me images inside those submenus too so I can see what needs unsuppressed still.

FD unlocked, program this in, then that is last time you will need to use programmer, you'll be able to FPT flash BIOS region from here on out.

Hi @Lost_N_BIOS ,
sorry~ i'm too busy these two days...
with the latest bios, i think menus within Main and Advanced menu are all unlocked.
the problem is still with the tweak menu.
i found a interested thing, if i enter tweak->cpu overclocking after a CMOS reset(remove the cmos battery), it will show a menu with much more detailed settings, but if I edited anything, or even not change anything just save and exit after a cmos clean, the cpu overclocking menu will be complete different, see the two photo.

thanks again

@sinlessx - It's OK, never a rush here! There is LOTS of settings inside the Tweak menu, I didn't touch ANY of them, I only unsuppressed submenus, as I mentioned.
I need to see images of what's inside those sub-menus as-is how I sent the BIOS to you, without any edits or changes by you. >> "CPU OverClocking Configuration" and "Memory Configuration"
Show me what's inside those menus on the BIOS I sent, then I will unlock rest of what's missing or grey etc (Some stuff gray due to not compatible with your hardware)
Flash BIOS I sent you as-is, enter BIOS and on exit screen choose "Restore Defaults" then save and exit, then reboot back to BIOS and show me those page.

What you showed about clearing CMOS is normal too, this is due to fail safe settings or optimized defaults being loaded/applied, all will be visible once I am done.

Hello,
sorry i didn't make it clear..
here are the photos of the main tweak menu
and the OC menu (after restore to default), mem page1 and mem page2
thanks

btw,I just got my chip clip, now i can flash the chip much more easily

@Lost_N_BIOS
Hi~I just got a copy of the "stock" bios file from ECS support.
As they didn't provide download link on the website, I asked and got tihs file from the support email.
maybe this would help

@sinlessx - I need to see images of what's inside those sub-menus as-is how I sent the BIOS to you in post #10, without any edits or changes by you. >> "CPU OverClocking Configuration" and "Memory Configuration" (Not stock BIOS Images now)

Also, now that you have flash programmer, next BIOS I send you I will unlock FD, then you can write entire BIOS via FPT from then out if you want (make sure you edit any BIOS I don't send, to unlock FD), then you will only need to use your clip once
Send me a dump from programmer and I will use that as my base moving forward - I don't need stock BIOS from ECS, we already have that