Forum - RE: Adata XPG SX8200 NVMe, Windows 7 64bit and S.M.A.R.T.

#16 | RE: Adata XPG SX8200 NVMe, Windows 7 64bit and S.M.A.R.T. datum

Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:17 pm (Last edited: Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:33 pm)

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #14
Maybe you can disable hot-swap for this drive in your BIOS?

Not such option in my BIOS. I think it's driver related, because when I use MS Standard NVMe driver - no safe removable icon in tray.

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#17 | RE: Adata XPG SX8200 NVMe, Windows 7 64bit and S.M.A.R.T. datum

Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:21 pm (Last edited: Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:32 pm)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #15
How did you check it?

I use trimcheck-0.7-win64.exe to check if TRIM is working properly. It works on all connected SATA SSDs, but not on NVMe drive.

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#18 | RE: Adata XPG SX8200 NVMe, Windows 7 64bit and S.M.A.R.T. datum

Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:38 pm

@yac:
The Trimcheck tool is not able to detect a very low TRIM activity.
That is why I recommend to trigger TRIM before starting the trimcheck tool. You can do it either by running the MS "Optimizer" or by using the related option of Anvil's "Storage Utilities".

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#19 | RE: Adata XPG SX8200 NVMe, Windows 7 64bit and S.M.A.R.T. datum

Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:06 pm

TRIM should work automatically after deleting files, no need to trigger it... and it works like that on my SATA SSDs, but not on NVMe... when using OFA driver.

Why on MS Standard NVMe driver TRIM works ok on NVMe drive (after about half a minute data filled with zeroes - checked with trimcheck)? - this is the question.

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#20 | RE: Adata XPG SX8200 NVMe, Windows 7 64bit and S.M.A.R.T. datum

Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:28 pm

@yac:
When I will have the required time and equipment, I will do some TRIM support tests with different NVMe Controllers and NVMe drivers.

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#21 | RE: Adata XPG SX8200 NVMe, Windows 7 64bit and S.M.A.R.T. datum

Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:02 am (Last edited: Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:08 am)

I've been wondering about this myself.

I'm using an Asrock z370 extreme4 with the same NVMe drive, the Adata XPG SX8200NP and w7. I slipstreamed in the MS driver during install and it's showing up under the Adata device in my device manager is a Microsoft driver dated 2006 (ver 6.1.7601.19133).

Of course, ADATA has no driver available and using their SSD toolbox, the model, firmware number, or firmware version does not display, It shows a warning for the drive health, and the temperature reading is 65263c. But at least the TRIM command works within the tool.

There has to be something out there that will work newer than 2006...

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#22 | RE: Adata XPG SX8200 NVMe, Windows 7 64bit and S.M.A.R.T. datum

Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:57 am

@Lioninstreet:
Welcome to the Win-RAID Forum!

1. If you want to know the driver, which manages the function and speed of your NVMe drive, you should not look into the "Disk Drives", but into the "Storage Controller" section of the Device Manager, do a right click onto the listed NVMe Controller and choose the options "Properties" > "Driver" > "Driver Details".
2. You should not believe the MS driver dates shown by the Device Manager. The Device Management doesn't check the date of the real driver (= *.SYS file), but just reads the date, which has been written into the associated textfile named *.INF. The *.INF files of all MS in-box drivers contain the misleading date 06/21/2006, no matter when the real driver (= *.SYS file) has been compiled.

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#23 | RE: Adata XPG SX8200 NVMe, Windows 7 64bit and S.M.A.R.T. datum

Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:49 am (Last edited: Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:17 pm)

@Fernando:
Thanks for the welcome and the PM. IMHO, yours is the best resourse on the web for this kind of thing

My storage controller does show a standard NVM Express controller v6.1.7061.23403 is installed. Can you direct me to where it is stored in w7 so I can possibly find out what it really is

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#24 | RE: Adata XPG SX8200 NVMe, Windows 7 64bit and S.M.A.R.T. datum

Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:37 am

@Lioninstreet:
All drivers (=*.sys files) are stored within the C:\Windows\System32\drivers subfolder.
The name of the generic MS NVMe driver is stornvme.sys.

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#25 | RE: Adata XPG SX8200 NVMe, Windows 7 64bit and S.M.A.R.T. datum

Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:13 pm

Found it dated 3/25/16. At least it's only a few years old instead of 12. I figured something was wrong since NVMe was just a glimmer in someone's eye back in 2006...

Looking forward to see how this plays out.

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#26 | RE: Adata XPG SX8200 NVMe, Windows 7 64bit and S.M.A.R.T. datum

Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:34 pm (Last edited: Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:27 pm)

Zitat von Lioninstreet im Beitrag #25
Found it dated 3/25/16. At least it's only a few years old instead of 12.

The MS NVMe driver has the same age as your currently running OS.

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#27 | RE: Adata XPG SX8200 NVMe, Windows 7 64bit and S.M.A.R.T. datum

Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:20 pm

Any chance the w10 x64 driver is compatible? I checked it on a w10 system I have and it's dated 6/5/18 (v10.0.17134.81)

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#28 | RE: Adata XPG SX8200 NVMe, Windows 7 64bit and S.M.A.R.T. datum

Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:59 pm

Zitat von Lioninstreet im Beitrag #27
Any chance the w10 x64 driver is compatible?

Compatible with what? The MS in-box drivers can only be used with the stock OS.

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#29 | RE: Adata XPG SX8200 NVMe, Windows 7 64bit and S.M.A.R.T. datum

Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:00 am

compatible with w7 x64?

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#30 | RE: Adata XPG SX8200 NVMe, Windows 7 64bit and S.M.A.R.T. datum

Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:51 pm

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #20
@yac:
When I will have the required time and equipment, I will do some TRIM support tests with different NVMe Controllers and NVMe drivers.

Today I was able to do the announced TRIM tests.
Test machine: Xiaomi Air 13.3 notebook
Test NVMe SSD: 256 GB Samsung PM061 NVMe SSD
OS: Win10 x64 v1809

Tested NVMe drivers:
1. Generic MS Win10 v1809 in-box NVMe driver
2. Samsung NVMe driver v3.0.0.1802 WHQL
3. Generic OFA driver v1.5.0.0 mod+signed by me
4. Generic Intel RST NVMe driver v16.7.1.1012 WHQL

Results: All tested NVMe drivers do support TRIM.

Proof:

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