@dkatkr - What do you mean you can't find enough motherboards for your chips? Are you buying 20+ boards and not getting one for me?
Sorry, I am not sure about the Supermicro, no one here has mentioned using QL1F ES on that board. Did you google around about it?
If you are buying a LOT of boards, tell Supermicro directly, and I'm sure they will provide you a BIOS that will support those chips.

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #511

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@dkatkr - What do you mean you can't find enough motherboards for your chips? Are you buying 20+ boards and not getting one for me?
Sorry, I am not sure about the Supermicro, no one here has mentioned using QL1F ES on that board. Did you google around about it?
If you are buying a LOT of boards, tell Supermicro directly, and I'm sure they will provide you a BIOS that will support those chips.

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@dkatkr - Yeah, I was laughing too! I'm not sure which is more expensive here, boards or CPU's? Last I looked at one of these boards, used and or dead even, prices were insane
So you'll have one SAGE and a Supermicro too then? At least you should be able to use the CPU's on one of them for sure

mobo is more expensive than this es2 cpu, but it’s fun to work with these.
W621e Sage works perfectly with my chips. thanks again.
I see lots of OC settings in the bios, but I’m not sure how to use those. Any guide available?

@Morockin - Hi, you sure about these settings because it doesn't do anything besides generating heat when I use these settings. With a fsb of 104 and everything else set to default I get a better overclock result.
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@Lost_N_BIOS

How precisely does one do > do >> 742CB9E2000000 >>> 752CB9E2000000

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I enabled "Filter PLL"in the overclocking feature : Do not do this, I thought I blew out one CPU. After a cool down of half a hour the bios detected both CPUs again instead of just one..

@Lost_N_BIOS I installed this on 3 system, all of them got the error with memory DIMM K L M. It recognizes all RAM modules in the first few boots, then after that it shows DIMM train error with slot number K L M.
do you think it’s bios related?
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a few workarounds I've been trying. Flash the bios with different versions, remove and replace the battery, swapping cpus, reseating cpus, swapping RAM sticks ... All failed.

My specs:
12x32Gb Samsung DDR4 2666Mhz
2x8176 ES QL1K

Zitat von Airo im Beitrag #517

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I enabled "Filter PLL"in the overclocking feature : Do not do this, I thought I blew out one CPU. After a cool down of half a hour the bios detected both CPUs again instead of just one..

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@Airo - What edit is that, and where did you find the info? I don't see that in this BIOS, so I can't tell you how to do it here
* Edit - Ahh, I found that byte edit in X299 thread, you're after CFG lock. This is not a setting in your BIOS, only SAPMCTL_CFG LOCK which is not same thing (per CodeRush comment here)
I'll get you the info you need, please wait for edit

* Edit 2 @Airo - Remove BIOS Body from Capsule per this guided info
At step #2 ignore NVME stuff mentioned and do your edit at that step, then once done replace body of BIOS back into capsule as the guide shows.

Edit >>
@ PpmInitialize GUID >> 3FFCAE95-23CF-4967-94F5-16352F68E43B
Expand to PE32, extract PE32 BODY as shown in example of how to extract PE32 BODY below.
If you extract some other way, then offset info below will not be same for you, so you will have to just find the bytes to edit based on the before data below


Then open PpmInitialize PE32 BODY in hex editor and edit per two single changed bytes as shown in BOLD below
MSR 0xE2 (CFG Lock) >> Patch >> 488944243072130FBAE8 -> 488944243072130FBAE0 = >> PE32 BODY >> @ offset 0x724 >> E8 >> E0
MSR 0x1AA (MSR_MISC_PWR_MGMT) >> Patch >> 488944245072130FBAE8 -> 488944245072130FBAE0 = >> PE32 BODY >> @ offset 0x35FE >> E8 >> E0

Then replace PpmInitialize PE32 BODY, same way you extracted (example above).
I highly suggest using UEFITool 25.0 for the replacement, otherwise you may loose/change Non-UEFI pad info in other volume (last PEI Vol) on rebuild
Then replace modified BIOS body back into Capsule as shown in above linked info


@dkatkr - Sorry, no guides that I know of, you'll have to google around about the settings you're unsure about.

About the error, no bent CPU socket pins? All four using same exact memory/model? << If yes, do you have other different memory to test?
It may be a memory compatibility issue. Or, you may need to adjust memory timings or voltages etc
How/where do you see this error? I don't have this board, so I can't really help directly, and I've never seen anyone mention this error

hey, thanks for the reply. I’ve just assembled the 4th one, same error. So there’re only 3 possibilities: this batch of mobo has the same problem, this batch of CPUs i bought on ebay has the same problem, or the default setting of the bios is not compatible.
No bent socket pin, checked with my naked eyes at least.
Yes all four system using exact same model and hardware. Everything in the bios are set as default/auto.
When it boots up, after “System initialization“ it will show what DIMMs have error.

The 4th one is a little weirder. It shows DIMM K1 K2 L1 L2 M1 M2 have error, meanwhile this mobo only have ABCDEFGHJKLM slot. So I’m more with CPUs issue.

@dkatkr - Yes, it may be something specific to these CPU's, or as I mentioned, it may be specific compatibility issue with this exact memory model
Or yes, it could also be what you mentioned about defaults, some default may not be 100% perfect for this memory to run without error. Since it's a training error, does it still happen after a few warm reboots?
I would lean towards some memory compatibility thing, or some setting you need to find and adjust. Does it give any more specific info on the error in the logs or anything?
Does it happen with less memory installed? Do you have any other memory to test a full similar setup on one of these same boards, just with different memory but same speed or amount?

* Edit - Could also be a BIOS specific bug, did you try last previous mod BIOS I made? I will find post # for you, look for edit in a second
Previous 5503 mod BIOS at post #241 - Allow B0 stepping on Asus W621E Sage (17)

@dkatkr - If same happens on that BIOS too, then it's setting specific issue, or memory compatibility issue.
I would assume it's not a CPU variant related issue, but I guess we all know what assuming does, so I suppose that can't be ruled out until you try same memory with other CPU variant.

interesting. I’ll try it with micron dimm.
Do you have any good documentation about timing and voltage for these RAM? I have no idea about these.

Edit: I rebooted and reseated the CPU several time, no help with these memory thingy. It also happens with 8 sticks, 4 sticks,... One thing makes me confused is it CAN recognize dimm KLM in first few boots...

@dkatkr - Sorry, I can't really help advise about the memory voltages, settings, timings etc.
Try with older BIOS as I mentioned above, and see if issue persists. Since it's happening with less memory too, I lean more towards setting or memory compatibility than a BIOS specific or CPU specific issue.

Thanks. I’ll dig into it and report the result here.

Hi!
I am ready to work on a Gigabyte C621-WD12 to allow B0 stepping.
Reading throughout this forum seems like it should be similar to the Asus.
One single thing I don’t quite understand.
If I am modding the same bios that’s on the motherboard, will I have ME problems?

Appreciate all your work guys.
Thanks

Works great