@Morockin - Disable Xeon Turbo Charger, I think I think I read this messes with multiplier, not in a good way. Also, disable Engine Boost may help too. Core Optimizer sounds like what you want, provided turbo is enabled.
Looking at the specs for QL1K, stock multi is x18, are you sure max would be x32? Maybe @babar or @levelud can help you more about these CPU's and getting CPU multi setup correctly.
I assume you disabled C1E and EIST already, you may need to leave C3 and or C6 enabled for turbo to work properly on these models, not sure. Did you try manually setting higher than 22 for the core ratio, and set 32 or so at Core Max OC Ratio?

I do see this though, so you may be correct, but for 32 always you'd need some kind of other BIOS mod I assume (max turbo core kind of mod)

Zitat

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The base frequency is 1.80 GHz, all core turbo frequency with AVX is 2.00 GHz and without AVX it's 2.20 GHz, and the maximum turbo frequency (I've seen) is 3.20 GHz

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https://www.i.reddit.com/r/homelabsales/...es_ecc_non_ecc/

Thank you for taking the time to respond. You've reminded me of a few of the OC variables that I haven't played with yet, so I am going to methodically work through the combinations to see what I can "unlock"...

@Morockin - You're welcome! If you don't make any progress, I'm sure someone will stop in here soon and tell you how to get the higher CPU multipliers working, should be same/similar for all these CPU's

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #453

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@Morockin - You're welcome! If you don't make any progress, I'm sure someone will stop in here soon and tell you how to get the higher CPU multipliers working, should be same/similar for all these CPU's

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Actually I haven't touched the multi or any kind of overclocking on this board. Strange to say, because thats usually the first thing I try. But for this I'm just looking for total stability. I'm already amazed at how fast it runs everything I throw at it, even in a VM..

Good news, I was able to get multiple cores unlocked to the full 2.8-3.2ghz with a few tweaks to the CPU C/P states and was able to preserve most of the energy savings/idling to ensure that I wasn't running hot all the time. Thankfully none of it required playing with the BLCK settings. Screenshot attached.

@Morockin - Great to see you were able to figure out the multi's and turbo! So, looks like under full load, one core can hit 3.3, another can do 2.9, and then rest limited to 2.2
That sounds about right for modern Intel Turbo without some kind of Turbo mod, which I think you can only do on X99

So which C state did you need to leave enabled, and which could be disabled? I assume C3 and or C6 had to be left enabled, right?

@Morockin Thats sweet! If you have the time could you give a quick walkthrough of what needed to be changed to unlock the full potential? Maybe I'll acutally have to try it, for the hell of it ;)

Hello,

I am using a Asus WS-C621E-SAGE, and I am using two intel non ARK Xeon CPU's, which are label as P-8136, which is close to an ARK Xeon of 8176, with slight lower base and turbo frequencies.
I was running version 6003 with no issue, and I attempted to update to version 6201, and now the system will not post, because I do not think it is detecting the CPU's correctly.
Could you please provide version 6201 with P-8136 cpu support?
Please let me know if you need any additional information from me? Or if you would like me to start a new thread as well?

Best Regards,
Al
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Full disclosure, I purchased these CPUs from an ebay seller located here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/352653551012

I have tried to reach him to provide an updated mod bios for the WS-C621E-SAGE board; however, he has not responded to my request.
If it helps, here is additional information about the CPU's from the details of the ebay page:

Intel Xeon Platinum P-8136 OEM CPU LGA-3647 2.0GHz 28-Core 165W SR2YN ~ 8176

Item specifics
Condition: Seller refurbished :
Seller Notes: “Very good condition. May have minor scratches on the thermal lid and/or PCB. Please read description for system compatibility.”
All-Core Non-AVX Turbo Frequency: 2.7 GHz Service & Support: Limited 180 Day Warranty
Max Turbo Frequency: 3.5 GHz Clock Speed: 2.0 GHz
Socket Type: LGA 3647-0/Socket P0 L3 Cache: 38.5 MB
Processor Model: Intel Xeon Platinum P-8136 MPN:
SR2YN
Number of Cores: 28 Processor Type: Xeon Scalable Processor
Thermal Design Power: 165 W Brand: Intel
Stepping: B1 UPC: Does not apply

genuine Intel Xeon Platinum P-8136 CPU SR2YN. This data center customized OEM (not ES/QS engineering sample) processor has very similar specifications to the retail Xeon Platinum 8176 (SR37A), except for a maximum supported memory speed of 2400MHz.

This processor requires a BIOS microcode of B1 production stepping.

Compatible Products:

Asus: WS C621E SAGE, Pro WS C621-64L SAGE/10G, ROG Dominus Extreme motherboards (modded BIOS with a microcode patch required***)

*** Modded BIOS can be flashed via USB BIOS Flashback without the need of a natively supported processor.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide,

Al

@ThatGuy2020 - Try what Barbar had to do here, one page back at post #445 - Allow B0 stepping on Asus W621E Sage (30)
If that does not help, while you are back on working 6003, check with HWINFO64 and or in BIOS main/info area, and see what CPUID this CPU is using.
You do not need to start a new thread. If you can't get it working, then I will take microcode being used from 6003 (link me) and put in 6201 for you

@Lost_N_BIOS I was able to roll back to 6003, and I took a picture of the bios page that shows the CPUID info:

Unfortunately, I was not able to follow Barbar's steps to get it working. Here is a link to the 6201 bios from asus:

https://www.asus.com/us/Commercial-Serve.../HelpDesk_BIOS/ or specifically: https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/So...E-ASUS-6201.zip

if you could patch / add the micro code support, I would greatly appreciate it.

Best Regards,

Al

@Lost_N_BIOS, here is the screenshot from HWINFO with the info as well:




Please let me know if you need any additional information from me, in order to patch bios version 6201?

Best Regards,

Al

@ThatGuy2020 - Sorry for the delay! BIOS 6003 does not contain microcode for your CPU (what's shown in BIOS image - 50653), so I'm not even sure how that is loaded and showing in your BIOS image!?!?


But, here is 6201 mod with that specific version (01000146) of 50653 ucode inserted instead of latest 01000157 that I put into original 6201 mod
I doubt this will change anything, if 146 works then 157 should as well, so I suspect something in 6003 BIOS allows your CPU's to function that has been removed or changed in 6201
https://ufile.io/p6lz3rgk

I do also see 3x instance of 53 06 05 in ME FW (only) of 6003, that is not in 6201, so you may need to downgrade ME FW via ME FW update tool or flash programmer if you have it, after flash of 6201 back down to version and exact one that is in 6003
I'm not sure if flashback will downgrade it while flashing in a BIOS. I've included secondary mod BIOS with the ME FW from 6003 to so you can test, but I doubt flashback will downgrade it (6003 version = 4.1.4.296 / 6201 ME FW version = 4.1.4.381)
It's not about the ME FW version, but the actual content, I only mention version here so you can check and see what version is being used so you know if it downgraded or not.
You may need to use other known working CPU to be able to see/confirm if flashback downgraded the ME FW after you flash in the ME FW downgrade version, if issue CPU does not boot you should do this so you know if that specific ME FW got flashed in or not.

Since you have flashed 6201 before, and are now back on 6003, what ME FW doyou see when you check in BIOS or with HWINFO64?
If it's 4.1.4.296 and not 4.1.4.381, then we know flashback does downgrade the ME FW when flashing back to older, so you should be set with the ME FW mod above, if this is the cause of the failure

@Lost_N_BIOS, GREAT NEWS, your 6201 patched version worked! I have noticed some changes between 6003 and 6201. I did not have to roll up back the ME Firmware either.
As for new features, I have to specifically research the Red Fish Bios option enabled / disabled feature. It is currently disabled.
Also, the current ME firmware seems to be working fine as well. I have attached two pictures for reference:




Thanks again for your assistance with this patch / bios update!

Best Regards,

Al

@ThatGuy2020 - Great to see it, thanks for quick test and report back! You're welcome!!
Red Fish BIOS option? If this is a BIOS setting, and it's hidden from you? If so, I can change the default for you if you need it enabled, or maybe make it visible to you too.
I wonder why 146 microcode works, but not 157? And I wonder what one in between is the latest you can use?
I also still wonder where 146 is in 6003 BIOS, I don't see it at all, searched a few ways, so not sure how that was loading in your 6003 tests?!?