Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #31

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I didn't expose any new options, only adjusted the ones you asked me to for now. Please check them and let me know. Or, are you saying you couldn't see those settings anyway?
If that is the case, then I understand, sorry I was confused there I thought maybe you could see them but couldn't adjust, so I set default for what you asked.

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Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #31

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Yes, as mentioned I can make stuff show up for you in menus, just hadn't got that far yet because I wanted to test this first and make sure actual BIOS flash went OK without killing your system (remember safety first )

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Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #31

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NVRAM reset is normal, sometimes, nothing to do with BIOS resetting itself like you are thinking.

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Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #31

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I found the problem possibly! In flash.bat, there is a missing switch /k in command below, this reflashes all non-critical blocks (Likely stuff we changed, since this normally doesn't change thus non-critical)
AFUDOS.exe %BIOS.ROM% /p /b /n /r %1

Please edit flash.bat to add this switch in like you see below, on both lines and then reflash as you normally would.
AFUDOS.exe %BIOS.ROM% /p /b /n /k /r %1

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Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #31

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*Edit - First do above test please, reflash and then check the same stuff in windows again and see if anything changes. If so, or not, after that here is another quick test, chipset menu enabled hopefully and 1-2 other settings maybe, look around and see if you note anything new.
And if chipset menu is present, please send images of all it contains. Also, flash this BIOS with the above changes still in batch file too, thanks!
https://www.sendspace.com/file/rhtgyg

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Yes, I checked images again after replying, I see all that's there and not there now.

Great, chipset is there now, thank you. I only enabled the menu to see if it worked on your board or not, next will be involved process to enable stuff in there.
So, I also enabled one CPU function, I think CPU Configuration. Do you see that anywhere? It may need other menus enabled first, but I made that change to test another visibility method too.
Maybe in advanced section, I can't remember. Do you see that one anywhere, or no?

So, from this we can gather, BIOS is updating, so all settings I changed from their previous defaults are now set as I changed them. Such as speedstep, EIST, C-States (HPET aside for now), you can confirm the others with CPU-z, does it downclock at idle now or stay at max freq?
If yes, do you have windows power plan set to high performance? If not, set that and min/max CPU set to max if option available.

Do you see proper microcode now, or still same one that we assumed was from windows?

I will work now on getting more settings visible to you, will take some time, but I can send you updates as I go so you can test. I'll start with a few options in chipset, and make those initial settings I changed from default to be visible for you too so you can adjust yourself.

No, NVRAM reset is normal, like clearing CMOS, it's a stored settings/info thing. If you want that to stop, you can remove the /n flag from the flash.bat file

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #33

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So, I also enabled one CPU function, I think CPU Configuration. Do you see that anywhere? It may need other menus enabled first, but I made that change to test another visibility method too.
Maybe in advanced section, I can't remember. Do you see that one anywhere, or no?

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Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #33

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So, from this we can gather, BIOS is updating, so all settings I changed from their previous defaults are now set as I changed them. Such as speedstep, EIST, C-States (HPET aside for now), you can confirm the others with CPU-z, does it downclock at idle now or stay at max freq?
If yes, do you have windows power plan set to high performance? If not, set that and min/max CPU set to max if option available.

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Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #33

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Do you see proper microcode now, or still same one that we assumed was from windows?

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Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #33

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I will work now on getting more settings visible to you, will take some time, but I can send you updates as I go so you can test. I'll start with a few options in chipset, and make those initial settings I changed from default to be visible for you too so you can adjust yourself.

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@akm Thanks for the new BIOS images! Yes, I didn't intend for either of these new changes to be usable, I mean I didn't go into enabling settings etc.
This was only meant as a test, one to see if this method to enable chipset worked (Make visible), and then CPU configuration was another method to make visible only.
For either to have functional entries takes 100's of more edits I need to make, that is why it's not done now, only meant as quick test for me to see which method or if both worked for enable visbility of items before enabling them.

Sorry, I see C1E is still enabled! I assumed disabling the "C-States" right above that, would disable all C-states below it, most boards function in this way, so I did not change the individual C1/C3 etc to disabled.

On the CPU config, further down into that page once your inside the menu, are all those enabled already or unselectable aside from C1E? Things like boot performance mode, turbo, EIST, C3 report etc?
Or are they effectively "greyed out" and not selectable?

Turbo I did not change at all, you said leave it as it was. F2 to enter BIOS, maybe reverse placebo effect . Press it once or twice and wait.
I always spam mine to enter BIOS too, even if I really only need to hit once, habit for me It may be slower now due to rebuilding NVRAM data, if this is the case once you stop updating and it gets many reboots under it's belt then it should be back to normal.

I'll work on BIOS menus for you now, please be patient it will take some time, but I will try to quickly do the few settings you initially asked about first and get a BIOS to you.

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #35

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On the CPU config, further down into that page once your inside the menu, are all those enabled already or unselectable aside from C1E? Things like boot performance mode, turbo, EIST, C3 report etc?
Or are they effectively "greyed out" and not selectable?

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Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #35

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Turbo I did not change at all, you said leave it as it was.

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Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #35

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It may be slower now due to rebuilding NVRAM data, if this is the case once you stop updating and it gets many reboots under it's belt then it should be back to normal.

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Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #35

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I'll work on BIOS menus for you now, please be patient it will take some time, but I will try to quickly do the few settings you initially asked about first and get a BIOS to you.

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So you can enable and disable all those in CPU Config?

Turbo mode is only usable if C1E is enabled, I think, some BIOS is different about that. That setting has not been touched by me, so enabled and useable by default from your BIOS correct?
Or, did this only just not become visible? If yes, only just now visible, it's OK, you can play with it and see what happens. I think you'll see if C-state and C1E disabled then you can't enable turbo.
Since I disabled C-state itself and that did not have the desired effect of disabling them all, test by disable all of them, and then check turbo, then enable all and check turbo.
Check turbo means two things here, see if you can adjust in BIOS or not with all C-state enable/disabled, and see what happens in windows with CPU speeds.

Thanks for missing file. I will put in new version BIOS folder, and then later we can update you to all that latest version stuff if you want.

First, BIOS settings and menu options! Blank chipset

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #38

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So you can enable and disable all those in CPU Config?

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Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #38

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Turbo mode is only usable if C1E is enabled, I think, some BIOS is different about that. That setting has not been touched by me, so enabled and useable by default from your BIOS correct?
Or, did this only just not become visible? If yes, only just now visible, it's OK, you can play with it and see what happens. I think you'll see if C-state and C1E disabled then you can't enable turbo.
Since I disabled C-state itself and that did not have the desired effect of disabling them all, test by disable all of them, and then check turbo, then enable all and check turbo.
Check turbo means two things here, see if you can adjust in BIOS or not with all C-state enable/disabled, and see what happens in windows with CPU speeds.

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Probably due to hidden EIST, but both should be disabled by default. Sometimes this is due to manufacturer issues though, I've had some boards/BIOS give me more CPU multi w. turbo than others, some less, some more than any with same CPU I've ever seen too.
Sometimes this is also due to ME or CPU microcode versions, it's all very tough to nail down what's what and how some of this power saving stuff should work by default for your board vs another vs what you expect from previous use on other boards vs other chipset/CPU series too.

On some chipset/CPU, for turbo to work C1E or C3 has to be enabled, others it does not. And sometimes with those enabled you can set higher than expected multi, or under load one core will hit higher than you expected or sometimes idle all will.
Anyway, your above test may be affected by hidden EIST, but it should be disabled (Both). Test with C1E enabled and turbo on/off and then C3 enabled and turbo on/off, then both C1E enabled/Disabled with turbo on./off.

Turbo is all manufacturer set, I have not touched that at all since you said leave as it was (enabled, and already visible, so I didn't even have to change anything for that one). But like I mentioned, it is affected and or restricted by other settings.

Here is new quick test BIOS, let me know (send images) what all you see in chipset and at the bottom of advanced page, go into new menu and show me what's all there too.
I think it will be at bottom of advanced page, but may be new entry at top you can go into. Flash like before, replace these files and run your two batch files
https://www.sendspace.com/file/wee7gn

This one will have second EIST visible to you hopefully, it's called Enhanced Intel Speedstep Technology (spelled out this time, instead of EIST). Should be located in advanced >> Performance Tuning >> CPU Configuration
And, for CPU configuration, you might have new settings on your original CPU Config page, the one not in performance tuning.

Could you please include the latest ME? This BIOS has older ME (9.1.20.1035). Did you start afresh this time with the stock BIOS?

I will include new ME next time around. Ohh wait! You mean I used file with older ME vs previously I didn't? If yes, sorry about that, I may have grabbed the other one without ME update wanting to check these menus real quick.
I can put ME back in again, sit tight, sorry about that if that's what happened! And... that was it, sorry man

*Edit, here is same file with latest ME again, sorry for my confusion, I have a mountain of your BIOS here
https://www.sendspace.com/file/dx3hdx

Put this one in todays folder, and delete the same named one, that way you have proper copy of this set with ME updated too.

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #42

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Ohh! You mean I used file with older ME vs previously I didn't? If yes, sorry about that, I may have grabbed the other one without ME update wanting to check these menus real quick.

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Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #39

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Here is new quick test BIOS, let me know (send images) what all you see in chipset and at the bottom of advanced page, go into new menu and show me what's all there too.
I think it will be at bottom of advanced page, but may be new entry at top you can go into. Flash like before, replace these files and run your two batch files
https://www.sendspace.com/file/wee7gn

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Yes, please remove the M. I put lots of stuff after file name and always try to name it back to stock for your flash due to the batch files, sorry didn't correct that one fully. As long as it's the 4MB one and edited today you know it's the correct file.

On HPET, Yes, I think so, it's at... I had a long post above with this info on post #40 but IE crashed on me and I had to retype all that, so missing some info
And ahhh! Nope, it's in part of the "Main" section I didn't enable because there's 100's of settings that don't apply, like airplane mode, wireless and laptop power brick modes etc.
I will enable that next round, or at least that setting alone and see if it appears for you, if not I may need to enable the whole huge pile

Zitat von Lost_N_BIOS im Beitrag #39

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https://www.sendspace.com/file/wee7gn

This one will have second EIST visible to you hopefully, it's called Enhanced Intel Speedstep Technology (spelled out this time, instead of EIST). Should be located in advanced >> Performance Tuning >> CPU Configuration
And, for CPU configuration, you might have new settings on your original CPU Config page, the one not in performance tuning.

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