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#76 | RE: [GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards datum

Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:01 pm (Last edited: Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:04 pm)

When I download the HWBot file Z17MOCF751A.rar it extracts fine and the resulting 16MB file can be opened in UBU (Aptio V).

It contains 4 microcodes:

506E3 (Skylake) = C2

906E9 (Kabylake-S) = 84

906EB (Coffeelake Quad core) = 84

906EA (Coffeelake-S Hex core) = 84

Try downloading with a different browser or clearing your browser's cache.

[Edit] It also contains Intel ME 11.6.0.1126.

1. EVGA Z370 Classified K, Core i9-9900KS @ 5.0 GHz, 4x8GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4-4133 MHz,
Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe 2TB, Asus 2070 Mini OC, Corsair AX850
2. Gigabyte Z390 UD, Core i7-9700K @ 4.9 GHz, 4x8GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4-3733 MHz,
Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 512MB, GALAX GTX 1060 OC, EVGA G2 850W

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#77 | RE: [GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards datum

Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:31 pm (Last edited: Tue May 01, 2018 11:39 pm)

Zitat von chinobino im Beitrag #76
When I download the HWBot file Z17MOCF751A.rar it extracts fine and the resulting 16MB file can be opened in UBU (Aptio V).

...

Try downloading with a different browser or clearing your browser's cache.

[Edit] It also contains Intel ME 11.6.0.1126.

Tried that, tried a different computer, but still doesn't work. I don't know why.

[Edit May 1, 2018]

I finally found a way to download the file successfully. I had to use a computer with Windows 7. I don't know how or why, but every attempt to download it on Windows 10 failed. None of the RAR decoder programs could recognize the file. Unfortunately, all my computers at home have Windows 10.

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#78 | RE: [GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards datum

Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:33 pm (Last edited: Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:21 pm)

Zitat von Dnatwork im Beitrag #75
Help?
I have an ASRock H110M-STX ...

I prepared bios for H110M-STX. You may try to use it.
edit:
I tried to add microcode for 6-core coffee lake with MMtool but no success. MMtool displays an error "ERROR 4001: FV size is too small the required FV image size 0x5fe90 exceeds the set FV image size 0x40000". Which is strange because I modified in this way bios to my motherboard (Asrock Z170 gaming K4/D3) and bios seems working ok(I didn't check with 6-core procesor). I think this is conected with _FIT_ but not sure. Anyway, then I used your method with UBU and modified 1511.bat and the attempt was successful. So I attached new file coffee_lake_6core... You can try this bios, but remember that you do it at your own risk. Maybe it will not work and you will have to use the SPI programmer to restore the original bios. If you decide to use that bios please post the result.

Wolf Larsen has attached files to this post

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#79 | RE: [GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards datum

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:44 pm (Last edited: Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:35 pm)

Seems like Nick was able to get the z170 OCF to drive 8700k to 5.4 ghz. Now I'm just waiting for some saint to release a easy to installed modified bios.

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#80 | RE: [GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards datum

Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:21 pm

OMG, it's cool news.)))
But I've another question - it is possible to overclock non-K processors on Z370 or B360 via bios modification?

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#81 | RE: [GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards datum

Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:55 pm

You could have done that with certain board with BCLK overclock featured enabled.

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#82 | RE: [GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards datum

Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:54 pm

Does anybody test it on some MSI B250m board ? (I have MSI B250m Mortar - but this tutorial is like magic to me - I might try to flash mobo if somone will have coffee ready bios or will help me a little bit)

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#83 | RE: [GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards datum

Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:02 pm

Zitat von baszek im Beitrag #82
Does anybody test it on some MSI B250m board ? (I have MSI B250m Mortar - but this tutorial is like magic to me - I might try to flash mobo if somone will have coffee ready bios or will help me a little bit)

Look at this thread for more guidance:

Fixing PCI-Express for Coffee Lake CPUs on Sky/Kaby Lake non-Asrock(and some new Asrock) motherboards

The first post (with the guide in it) states that it works on MSI B150.

Also, look at the hwbot.org link on the previous page of the current thread (page 5, post #62 by chinobino).

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#84 | RE: [GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards datum

Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:45 pm

B150 and Z170 are probably different boards ;-)

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#85 | RE: [GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards datum

Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:12 pm (Last edited: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:22 pm)

Zitat von baszek im Beitrag #82
Does anybody test it on some MSI B250m board ? (I have MSI B250m Mortar - but this tutorial is like magic to me - I might try to flash mobo if somone will have coffee ready bios or will help me a little bit)

First of all you should check your current version of bios, if you have v24 or v25 flashing attached bios is pointless because of ME version, unless you going to use SPI programmer. If you are not afraid to try, you have a prepared bios here: https://megawrzuta.pl/download/e5046a1b5...453519f838.html This bios should work with coffee lake, kaby lake and skylake.
Remember that there is always a risk that modded bios might brick your motherboard and you will have to use the SPI programmer to restore the original bios. If you decide to use that bios please post the result.

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#86 | RE: [GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards datum

Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:47 pm (Last edited: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:13 pm)

Zitat von Wolf Larsen im Beitrag #85
Zitat von baszek im Beitrag #82
Does anybody test it on some MSI B250m board ? (I have MSI B250m Mortar - but this tutorial is like magic to me - I might try to flash mobo if somone will have coffee ready bios or will help me a little bit)

First of all you should check your current version of bios, if you have v24 or v25 flashing attached bios is pointless because of ME version, unless you going to use SPI programmer. If you are not afraid to try, you have a prepared bios here: https://megawrzuta.pl/download/e5046a1b5...453519f838.html This bios should work with coffee lake, kaby lake and skylake.
Remember that there is always a risk that modded bios might brick your motherboard and you will have to use the SPI programmer to restore the original bios. If you decide to use that bios please post the result.

is it modded bios from https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/...ORTAR#down-bios with PCI-express fix included ?
I had bricked bios few months ago - I have used raspberry PI and flashed new bios via SPI (connected to JSPI1 mobo)
I have v24 version right now - can I make a flash from raspberry PI via JSPI1 ?

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#87 | RE: [GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards datum

Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:55 pm (Last edited: Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:54 am)

Yes, it is modded bios v25 from oficial MSI support site and yes it include PCIe fix. If you have v24 then you must use raspberry PI for flashing by JSPI.

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#88 | RE: [GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards datum

Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:24 am (Last edited: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:26 am)

Zitat von Wolf Larsen im Beitrag #78
I prepared bios for H110M-STX. You may try to use it.
edit:
I tried to add microcode for 6-core coffee lake with MMtool but no success. ... Anyway, then I used your method with UBU and modified 1511.bat and the attempt was successful. So I attached new file coffee_lake_6core... You can try this bios, but remember that you do it at your own risk. ... If you decide to use that bios please post the result.

@Wolf Larsen, thanks! I see you started from BIOS P7.60, which normally has ME 11.8.5, but you've backdated it to 11.6.0.1126. I was wondering how to do that; I assume it is manual editing with the UEFITool that I have not learned how to do yet. Correct? Does that mean you managed to include the Spectre/Meltdown security fixes while evading Intel's CPU lockdown? Thanks!

I've modified BIOSes to include the 906EA microcode in UBU (update version 80, where you have 84), but it just has not allowed the computer to post with the Coffee Lake CPU. I am thinking my problems are related to the "unknown Device_ID" problem that affects all the non-ASRock boards. Maybe the STX boards are limited in ways that other ASRock boards are not. I tried the pcie_patcher(1.4).cmd, but it found nothing to patch, and it didn't help.

I will probably try your BIOS and tell you what happened. If it works, I'd like to find out why my attempts have not worked so far. But I'll probably never know.

Edit: it did not work. Same result, fan spins up but immediately turns off, no post.
I still think it�s the device_ID issue, though I have no evidence, and I don�t know how to fix it. Yet. That�s the point of doing this, right, to learn how?

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#89 | RE: [GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards datum

Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:06 am

I see they shorted two pins on hwbot, but they never explained why. Does anyone know? Could that be what is stopping my board from posting with the hex-core cpu?

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#90 | RE: [GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards datum

Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:54 am (Last edited: Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:07 pm)

This is exactly what stopping your motherboard from posting. To run 6-core coffee lake on Asrock motherboard you have to short two pins otherwise motherboard doesn't detect CPU. To do this you may use for example electrically conductive epoxy, electrically conductive silver adhesive, graphite varnish etc. I thought you are aware of this fact.

Have you tried to run skylake with the bios that I attached?? It could be an indication of whether the bios work properly. You should also check if the Intel iGPU is working correctly.

I've noticed that you don't understand how the PCIe patch works, so let me quote:

Zitat von Mov AX, 0xDEAD im Beitrag Fixing PCI-Express for Coffee Lake CPUs on Sky/Kaby Lake non-Asrock(and some new Asrock) motherboards
This patch intended for non-Asrock motherboards on 110/150/170/250/270 chipsets, it changes 7(or 8) modules in bios. Also a patch is needed for some new Asrock motherboards with kaby chipset like B250/Z270 or even with sky chipset too.

Main idea is removing check device_id of host bridge (pci 0/0/0, located inside CPU), i named it "asrock-way". Combination of cpu_family & device_id means some of one of 4 type pci bridges,in Z370 bioses for kaby/coffe exist type "1" for device_id of host bridge = 3e0f,3e1f,3e30,3ec2,590f,591f and type "3" for 5900/5908/5910/5918, type "0" and "2" i think for mobile/server CPUs. Procedure in pre-Z370 bioses set type to "unknow" if detect unknow device_id. That's the problem.
Patch always set type to "1" for kaby/coffe regardless of device_id, asrock does same thing....

So that's why patcher found nothing to patch. Device_ID is not the issue here.

Yes, I started from BIOS P7.60, which normally has ME 11.8.50.3425. I used UEFITool to change ME to version 11.6.0.1126 by extract ME region from bios P7.20 and replace it in P7.60. I checked this method on my own motherboard and works perfectly. But that does not mean that I was able to implement the Spectre/Meltdown security fixes, avoiding the Intel processor lock. You are confusing two separate problems. ME in version below 11.8... has vulnerabilities but does not concern Spectre and Meltdown. Intel has fixed Spectre / Meltdown issues through a new microcode, which unfortunately also affects performance. Therefore, it is recommended to use an older microcode but you have to choose between safety and performance. I used the latest microcode because you asked about it in an earlier post. If you want to test, I can prepare a new bios for you with an older microcode. But firstly you have to start by shorting those two pins.

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