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#466 | RE: X58 Chipset with problems to boot off a PCIe connected SSD datum

Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:14 am (Last edited: Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:46 am)

I'm having trouble booting into Duet on my rig. I followed all the directions to make the windows 10 drive and the duet drive but its not working. When my computer starts to boot into duet the screen goes black then restarts. :/

Specs:
Intel i7 920 3.78Ghz (180x21)
MSI X58 Big Bang Xpower
16GB mixed ram DDR3 @ 1080Mhz (2x4GB Micron/4x2GB Samsung)
XFX Radeon R9 Fury X
Target OS: Windows 10 Home
Target Boot Drive: Inland Premium 256GB NVME
Current OS: Windows 7 Home
Current Boot Drive: 2x Intel 545s 256GB in raid 0

I'd love keep the system on Windows 7 since it has better compatibility with older games, particularly those that use discs, but its more difficult to get to boot from an NVME drive using duet or clover from what I've seen. I'll just keep it on the SSD raid array and dual boot.

Edit: To clarify, I have all my other drives unplugged when I try to use duet to install windows 10 onto the nvme drive.

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#467 | RE: X58 Chipset with problems to boot off a PCIe connected SSD datum

Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:36 pm

Disable all options in the BIOS (e. g. audio, LAN, etc.) and try.

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#468 | RE: X58 Chipset with problems to boot off a PCIe connected SSD datum

Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:30 am (Last edited: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:30 am)

Zitat von silekonn im Beitrag #467
Disable all options in the BIOS (e. g. audio, LAN, etc.) and try.

I just finished that and I went as far as disabling virtualization and VT-d as well as both sata controllers but the same issue persists. I took a video of it though it didn't show anything really useful other than a visual representation of the issue I'm having.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/odeincyfg4lz53...180726.mp4?dl=0

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#469 | RE: X58 Chipset with problems to boot off a PCIe connected SSD datum

Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:12 am

For clarity, you didn't disable everything you could? That is what will best identify the problem. If it persists after everything is disabled, remove or disconnect all non-essential components.

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#470 | RE: X58 Chipset with problems to boot off a PCIe connected SSD datum

Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:24 am

@Troika
Try to remove either the micron or samsung memory, load the default OC profile and/or use the 2015 version

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#471 | RE: X58 Chipset with problems to boot off a PCIe connected SSD datum

Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:40 pm

Zitat von silekonn im Beitrag #469
For clarity, you didn't disable everything you could? That is what will best identify the problem. If it persists after everything is disabled, remove or disconnect all non-essential components.

I did, I only left USB support and USB legacy support because when I turned legacy support off, my keyboard stopped working. All that's plugged in is the keyboard, mouse, and monitor.

Zitat von noInk im Beitrag #470
@Troika
Try to remove either the micron or samsung memory, load the default OC profile and/or use the 2015 version

I'll try both of those next.

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#472 | RE: X58 Chipset with problems to boot off a PCIe connected SSD datum

Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:05 am

@Troika Another often easier option is Clover.

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#473 | RE: X58 Chipset with problems to boot off a PCIe connected SSD datum

Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:38 am (Last edited: Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:39 am)

I second this idea too. Try downloading and using BDU a.k.a Boot Disk Utility from here. It will create the very latest Clover disk for you.

Something is wrong with your machine if that doesn't work for you.

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#474 | RE: X58 Chipset with problems to boot off a PCIe connected SSD datum

Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:03 am

Zitat von SkOrPn im Beitrag #473
I second this idea too. Try downloading and using BDU a.k.a Boot Disk Utility from here. It will create the very latest Clover disk for you.

Something is wrong with your machine if that doesn't work for you.

Alright, I tried both versions of Duet and neither did anything different after disabling everything that I could disable. Time to try using clover. Is there an easy to follow guide on using it or is it the same process as duet except you use clover instead?

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#475 | RE: X58 Chipset with problems to boot off a PCIe connected SSD datum

Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:56 am

Well I think it is self explanatory when you use it, at least it was for me. Just play around with it, but remember it is geared towards macOS machines. Thankfully it is based on DUET anyway and is designed to boot any and all UEFI OS's and NVMe based disks. Its been a year or two since I last used it though and it booted Windows 10 and my Linux distros perfect for me back then. Good luck... By the way there should be some Clover threads here somewhere, or at least some help forums somewhere on the net.

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#476 | RE: X58 Chipset with problems to boot off a PCIe connected SSD datum

Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:50 am (Last edited: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:52 am)

@Troika
You can try to manually replace the %EFI_BOOT_DISK%\EFI\Boot\Bootx64.efi on the USB with the 0.11.4 rEFInd release ( refind-flashdrive-0.11.4.zip\refind-flashdrive-0.11.4\refind-flashdrive-0.11.4.img\EFI\boot\Bootx64.efi ) by downloading the USB flash drive image file on this page or use Clover instead

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#477 | RE: X58 Chipset with problems to boot off a PCIe connected SSD datum

Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:40 am

I got it working with clover. :) When you load into the boot loader, you have to press F3 so you can get access to the external usb drives.

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#478 | RE: X58 Chipset with problems to boot off a PCIe connected SSD datum

Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:16 am (Last edited: Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:24 am)

@Troika

Good, but may I ask how you done the USB WIN10 installer?

Did you use the MediaCreationTool or some other method?
also are you using a USB key or some SATA external hard drive enclosure with power supply?

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#479 | RE: X58 Chipset with problems to boot off a PCIe connected SSD datum

Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:23 am

Zitat von noInk im Beitrag #478
@Troika

Good, but may I ask how you done the USB WIN10 installer?

Did you use the MediaCreationTool or some other method?

I downloaded the iso file with the media creation tool then used rufus to put it onto a flash drive as per the directions of this video.

https://youtu.be/5Ycog2II5ns

Might do the same thing when I try installing windows 7 on the nvme drive. I will have to update my iso image by sideloading service pack 1 and the hotfix that enables native nvme support. Clover should take care of loading the nvme driver but if it doesn't, I'll just pull a copy of the nvme driver that's currently on my windows 7 installation and put it on a separate drive.

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#480 | RE: X58 Chipset with problems to boot off a PCIe connected SSD datum

Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:36 am (Last edited: Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:37 am)

@Troika
This shouldn't happen if you make the USB directly with the MediaCreationTool.
Thanks for the report.

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