@SkOrPn

That's a lot of work you put on the making of this video!
With your permission I'm gonna add the first one on the info at the first page.

Anyway, is the .NET application (USBSetup) causing issue on your end since you didn't use it? should be even easier since it's few click away to make the DUET/REFIND USB.

@noInk

I didn't use it because it isn't tried and true. Command prompt is what we should teach to the noob techs. If I wasn't in a hurry I should have also shown that, sorry, but I am just too busy at the moment and my mind is on other things. Today I have to work on something else but I promise I will be back soon.

Your Crazy in good way for posting so fast lol.
I will get to the rest. But SKorpn.

But..
I had them both connected. I stated I didn't see it show up.
I build tons of computers. I didn't attempt my Windows 7 that was made on rufus.
I only tried my Windows 10 on that I think was created from windows tool. I completely forgot about this, if it matters.
Reading the rest now.

If I am lucky sometimes I see this when both USB sticks are plugged in.
on X58
http://i67.tinypic.com/2jdm3qq.jpg

So what does this screen mean? Mine is missing the top section of it.
and just shows an Arrow.

I probably have built 100 machines+ on this 1 Windows 10 USB. (i updated it a few times) and 2,000 on my Windows 7 one I can't recall if it was made on rufus or Windows tool. Do they make a different for DUET? When I have time I will try my Windows 7 that I believe was made on Rufus.
after the image I've shown sometimes it goes into windows 10 without me clicking anything after and sits at windows logo and the circle never appears, even after like 10 mins.

@1xstealthx1

That's mean there nothing bootable attached on the USB port ( or anywhere else for that matter ) or you need to manually HIT the ESC Key, since REFIND isn't actively checking the host USB port status.
( perhaps I changed the refresh KEY somewhere down the line, or didn't implemented the change or some type of regression )

If you are sure there an USB disk attached, and.. you DID attached it afterward getting on that screen: HIT the ESC key from your keyboard to refresh the view.

Esc key, Ill try that.

But When I remove the DUET USB.
My Windows bootable OS has no issues going in quickly.

I will try esc to see if it refreshes or something.

You must install WINDOWS in UEFI else it won't shown there.
To install windows in UEFI do it trough DUET/REFIND.
INSTALL that OS LOL

Ok default bios settings and now i saw the 3 circles come up this time and now I clicked on it.

It starts windows logo. I am wondering how long I should wait for the revolving circle to appear, usually it would already spin by now.

I see the 3 dots but when i click on it, it shows Windows 10 starting logo. but the circle never spins under it.
I restarted and I am sitting at the DUET screen with the green, pink, blue circle.

And the Windows 7 USB didn't get picked up. (used it to test)

this is my face right now.

I have no clue, on mine X58 it does after a while and as far I recall it's SUPER QUICK!
What GPU are you using, does it support UEFI?

ITs X58 asrock extreme
https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/X58%20Extreme/index.asp

I7 and just random GTX 750 Ti at the moment. I have a ton of cards.

Should i try changing something in the OS now?
Also you've been a ton of help, I actually see the three colored circles now.. before it was just blank with arrow.

grabbing a GTX 1060 now, then I will try HD7570.

If you make the WINDOWS 10 USB DISK with the MEDIA CREATION TOOL it should work straight without USER intervention.
The installer should bring you on the desktop after it's done setting it's thing up.

For WINDOWS 7 there are some changes to be made to bring it on the UEFI the installer.
The GTX 750 should support UEFI.
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Since you are talking about endless circle spin.. check on the RAID (ICH) or something in conflict with the SATA, again which NVME are you using? :D
or I get it right and the circle doesn't even spin?

So you think it's because my windows 10 is direct from microsoft? is the problem?
I never thought this would interfere with this setup.

Yeah it sits at the WINDOWs Logo, and the little rotating circle never appears.

But Windows 10 USB I have works flawlessly when DUET isn't on together.

Looking into this part now.
"Since you are talking about endless circle spin.. check on the RAID (ICH) or something in conflict with the SATA, again which NVME are you using? :D:
But there is not endless circle, No circle at all, that usually appears quickly after the Windows LOGO appears. (So issue is= no circle appears, just sits with Window Logo)
DUET is working well I believe, just DUET is not working with this Windows 10. (Which I've used 100s of times, I even built os with it yesterday twice)

I am supposedly using one of the easiest ones lol.
blank m.2 PM951 MZ-FLV2560 Via PCI EXPRESS.

Nope, it's should work straight if the media is made directly from Microsoft.
Are you sure you did made your USB with the MEDIA CREATION TOOL?
sorry to ask!

Yeah I think when I created it, it was made from here.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/windows10

I've used it 100s of times. (and built 2 os's yesterday)
This is very helpful, because now we see issue that isn't human error.
Wondering if some change in the bios will fix it.

Hey also, can you give me a image uploader that works? Tinypic doesn't seem to let me add the photos in here anymore and photobucket is obviously dead lol.
Other forums I usually can add images without issues, especially my 3si.org 3000GT/Stealth forums.


And the last attempt, I left it after clicking on 3 colored circles on DUET, and then Windows Logo.
Sitting at Windows Logo for more than 20 mins lol.

The media creation tool can't be trusted to make the USB, especially if it is made on a legacy system. You need to use a program where you can "SEE" the proper settings, such as GPT, FAT32, UEFI etc etc. Media Creation tool is to ONLY be used when you are NOT going to be changing platforms such as going from MBR to GPT, or NTFS to FAT32, or Legacy to UEFI. It just can't be trusted, so the best way around that widely known issue is by doing it right by using Rufus which lets you "see" how it will be created.

This is why I showed Rufus, because it does exactly what we want it to do. MediaCreationTool1803, for our purposes, is ONLY for downloading the ISO. One last thought, we are doing something here that is outside the norm, so you cant just do it normally, you have to think around the issue, again that is why we use Rufus because it lets "ME" do the thinking, not microsofts tool, lol.

Zitat von SkOrPn im Beitrag #284

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The media creation tool can't be trusted to make the USB, especially if it is made on a legacy system. You need to use a program where you can "SEE" the proper settings, such as GPT, FAT32, UEFI etc etc. Media Creation tool is to ONLY be used when you are NOT going to be changing platforms such as going from MBR to GPT, or NTFS to FAT32, or Legacy to UEFI. It just can't be trusted, so the best way around that widely known issue is by doing it right by using Rufus which lets you "see" how it will be created.

This is why I showed Rufus, because it does exactly what we want it to do. MediaCreationTool1803, for our purposes, is ONLY for downloading the ISO. One last thought, we are doing something here that is outside the norm, so you cant just do it normally, you have to think around the issue, again that is why we use Rufus because it lets "ME" do the thinking, not microsofts tool, lol.

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