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#211 | RE: [Guide] NVMe-boot for systems with a non-UEFI BIOS (DUET-REFIND method) datum

Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:07 am (Last edited: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:19 pm)

@SkOrPn

In theory a sort of mitigation is already implemented within the memory management of that DUET version.
The microcode is for the other one, it also seems to change\update the turbo ratio x core and something else.
On the DXSO everything's seems fine, no nominal increase in temperature, both idle\pegged variance is 3c at most from previous 1D.
On the other X58, legacy based, pretty much same spec, I need to reseat the AIO with some extra rubber washer, cause the temperature difference doesn't make sense
So, if you plan to use it on your board, check the idle and under load temperature before. << bracket was somehow off, changed also the thermal paste, so it's the same.

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#212 | RE: [Guide] NVMe-boot for systems with a non-UEFI BIOS (DUET-REFIND method) datum

Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:52 pm

Was wondering how many of you with NVME legacy rom on board needed to use the Duet method to boot? They say that with legacy rom mods arent needed?

Reason I ask is because Ethaniel found theres a Nvme VMware option rom included in the VMware Workstation package. With that you guys who have legacy rom
may be able to have native booting considering you can see your drive in your bios boot menu and had prior difficulty booting..

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#213 | RE: [Guide] NVMe-boot for systems with a non-UEFI BIOS (DUET-REFIND method) datum

Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:00 pm

That's a good question. I no longer have a NVMe enabled Legacy BIOS mobo. I gave my DX58SO to a good friend back in 2015, whos 2003 system had just died and he couldn't afford to build a new system at the time and refuses to do anything AMD. So I gave him my i7-920 and DX58SO and we put a GTX 960 on it. He had never used an OS after XP but I managed to talk him into Win7 and a SSD, plus a new USB 3.0 card and a 4TB external drive. He is quite happy now.

I wish I could test to see if that DX58SO would boot to a 960 series SSD. Interestingly Intel kept updating its BIOS until mid 2013, so I would think if there is any truly Legacy board that has NVMe support it might be that one.

What size is that Option ROM? Would it fit inside these smaller Legacy BIOS's by chance?

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#214 | RE: [Guide] NVMe-boot for systems with a non-UEFI BIOS (DUET-REFIND method) datum

Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:02 pm (Last edited: Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:07 pm)

The DX58SO of mine came without BIOS, so, the firmware is kinda customized since I added NVME support for UEFI and other things..
anyway, the 960 boot normally with a DXE driver made for it, by default, with the intel bios 5600 release it won't, cause there no driver within the firmware.

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#215 | RE: [Guide] NVMe-boot for systems with a non-UEFI BIOS (DUET-REFIND method) datum

Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:08 pm

Zitat von noInk im Beitrag #214
The DX58SO of mine came without BIOS, so, the firmware is kinda customized since I added NVME support for UEFI and other things..
anyway, the 960 boot normally with a DXE driver made for it, by default, with the intel bios 5600 release it won't, cause there no driver within the firmware.

Oh, so the DX58SO just looks like an old school BIOS? I flashed BIOS 5600 onto it last. Is that 5600 UEFI? It appeared to my eyes just to be an old normal BIOS. How can you tell just by looking at it?

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#216 | RE: [Guide] NVMe-boot for systems with a non-UEFI BIOS (DUET-REFIND method) datum

Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:27 pm (Last edited: Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:34 pm)

@SkOrPn

The DX58SO firmware uses UEFI. It's not running in legacy ( real-mode [DOS] ).
If you open this file ( attached somewhere ) with something capable, you'll see a full UEFI firmware, that's the recovery I made to boot mine.

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#217 | RE: [Guide] NVMe-boot for systems with a non-UEFI BIOS (DUET-REFIND method) datum

Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:43 pm

Zitat von noInk im Beitrag #216
@SkOrPn

The DX58SO firmware uses UEFI. It's not running in legacy ( real-mode [DOS] ).
If you open this file ( attached somewhere ) with something capable, you'll see a full UEFI firmware, that's the recovery I made to boot mine.

With a board like that and with native NVMe support, this thing could last a very very long time. In the future I could also install a hexa core Xeon for him and a NVMe SSD and it should run just fine for many years. Good to know... Thanks

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#218 | RE: [Guide] NVMe-boot for systems with a non-UEFI BIOS (DUET-REFIND method) datum

Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:55 pm

@SkOrPn

Here if you need the native NVME driver for the DX58SO.
Notice to read at full extension the post mentioned before flashing something "made on spare time" into the board in your possession or anyone else board :P

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#219 | RE: [Guide] NVMe-boot for systems with a non-UEFI BIOS (DUET-REFIND method) datum

Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:43 am (Last edited: Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:46 am)

Zitat von SkOrPn im Beitrag #213

What size is that Option ROM? Would it fit inside these smaller Legacy BIOS's by chance?

Its very small. About 8kb I think uncompressed. Working on a method to get the bios booting an Nvme drive just for kicks. Hold the legacy rom!

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#220 | RE: [Guide] NVMe-boot for systems with a non-UEFI BIOS (DUET-REFIND method) datum

Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:45 pm (Last edited: Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:55 pm)

@silekonn

Thanks, should be fixed now.

@SkOrPn

Hey SkOrPn,
can I put the YouTube video link on the first post? :D

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#221 | RE: [Guide] NVMe-boot for systems with a non-UEFI BIOS (DUET-REFIND method) datum

Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:05 pm

Zitat von noInk im Beitrag #220

@SkOrPn

Hey SkOrPn, can I put the YouTube video link on the first post? :D

What video? The one I show it booting to the refind GUI? Sure no problem.

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#222 | RE: [Guide] NVMe-boot for systems with a non-UEFI BIOS (DUET-REFIND method) datum

Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:36 am

Zitat von noInk im Beitrag #218
@SkOrPn

Here if you need the native NVME driver for the DX58SO.
Notice to read at full extension the post mentioned before flashing something "made on spare time" into the board in your possession or anyone else board :P

Thanks for this NVMe driver for the DX58SO. I currently have this motherboard and would like to use an NVMe drive to boot, would this driver help me? My other question is how would I go about using this driver?

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#223 | RE: [Guide] NVMe-boot for systems with a non-UEFI BIOS (DUET-REFIND method) datum

Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:53 am

Zitat von JT im Beitrag #222
Zitat von noInk im Beitrag #218
@SkOrPn

Here if you need the native NVME driver for the DX58SO.
Notice to read at full extension the post mentioned before flashing something "made on spare time" into the board in your possession or anyone else board :P

Thanks for this NVMe driver for the DX58SO. I currently have this motherboard and would like to use an NVMe drive to boot, would this driver help me? My other question is how would I go about using this driver?

I think you just put it in the Boot/drivers folder in your EFI if using DUET with REFIND. Otherwise if you want it native you would want to add it to your DX58SO's UEFI by modding your boards firmware.

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#224 | RE: [Guide] NVMe-boot for systems with a non-UEFI BIOS (DUET-REFIND method) datum

Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:10 am

Ah I see, thanks. I was originally going to use DUET to boot but I was under the impression that I didn't need a NVMe driver specific to the DX58SO and could just use the generic NVMe driver.

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#225 | RE: [Guide] NVMe-boot for systems with a non-UEFI BIOS (DUET-REFIND method) datum

Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:36 am (Last edited: Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:13 pm)

Nope.
Since there an older and modified version embedded on it, that version of DUET won't work on the DX58SO.
Either you DUMP your chip content with an hardware programmer, rewrite the firmware with the necessary changes, or, use the REFIND boot manager alone placed on the root of the USB.

The DXE linked above is made to be integrated within the firmware.

HOW to MAKE THE USB for REFIND (non-bootable) USB flash drive.
Booting the NVME drive from older-UEFI capable board (REFIND mass-storage without DUET)

� 1) OPTIONAL:
Use the Windows FORMAT utility to restore the mass-storage layout (non-bootable).

� 2) Open the Windows Command Prompt with "Run as Administrator" option ( ie. Run "cmd" as Administrator ).

� 3) cd to the DUET_UDK2017_REFIND folder.
Eg: "cd C:\DUET_UDK2017_REFIND" ( without quotes ). Enter.

� 4) Type "CreateUSB Drive_Letter: REFIND" ( without quotes ).
Example: "CreateUSB K: REFIND" ( without quotes ).

� 5) From the "C:\DUET_UDK2017_REFIND\Efildr\DUET\" subdirectory locate the "Efildr20" file,
with something like 7zip select "Extract files..." to unpack the inner archive, you should get an "Efildr20~" directory.

� 6) From the "Efildr20~" directory select again the "Efildr20~" file within and again "Extract files..." you should get another "Efildr20~~" directory.

� 7) Inside the "Efildr20~~" directory locate the "NvmExpressDxe.efi" and copy this file on the USB flash drive "EFI\Boot\drivers" directory.

� 8) Plug in the USB flash drive on the target system and set "Boot from USB" as the first option in your system's BIOS Boot order option in UEFI.

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