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#31 | RE: Benchmark comparison of my favorite Intel RAID driver/OROM combinations datum

Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:14 pm (Last edited: Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:15 pm)

@ Artemius:
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Zitat von Artemius im Beitrag #30
1) Will i have to do a complete system re-install,or loading the driver through the recovery options of the installation disk will suffice ? Or simply updating the driver through the Device Manager will be stable ?

It is the latter. A fresh re-install of the OS is not required at all.

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2) Should i first uninstall the IMSM software ?

Yes. that has to be the first step before you start any AHCI driver replacement. After a subsequent reboot you can update the Intel AHCI driver.
Since AHCI users don't have any benefit of the Intel RST software (Console and Services), but may suffer under a performance decrease due to the software running in the background, I recommend just to install the related Intel RST AHCI driver from within the Device Manager and not to install the complete RST package by running the related installer (EXE file).

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Also, the IMSM oROM is the V.8.5.0.1030 . I'm a little skeptical of modding the bios to tell the truth...

An update of the Intel RAID ROM is much easier than you may think, but for AHCI users not as important as for RAID users.

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#32 | RE: Benchmark comparison of my favorite Intel RAID driver/OROM combinations datum

Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:57 pm

Hi there,

I need some help with these RST drivers. I have a SSD primary with a 1tb 2nd hdd. I am not interested in any RAID configs, just AHCI.

I recently had to replace a dead asrock x79 extreme9 motherboard with a msi x79 because of an asrock failure. The asrock hit a windows experience index of 7.2 on the ssd. The MSI is only doing 5.9.

I was doing some reading and read that the intel rst drivers are much better than the microsoft drivers that are installed.

The question is:

Will RST improve my windows experience index? ( I know it does not mean much..but still)

How do you install these RST drivers. I tried using the .exe file and it did not replace the ms drivers.

This is an existing machine, do I really need to re-install windows to use the correct driver?

Thanks

MY System:

Mainboard MSI X79A-GD45 Plus, core i7-3820, 8 x 4 1600 DDR3, MSI Hawk GeForce GTX 760
Adata SSD S510 120GB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD

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#33 | RE: Benchmark comparison of my favorite Intel RAID driver/OROM combinations datum

Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:20 pm (Last edited: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:23 pm)

@ scbypwr:
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Zitat von scbypwr im Beitrag #32
Will RST improve my windows experience index?

It may or it may not. It depends on the system (chipset and SATA Controller type).

Zitat
How do you install these RST drivers.

Open the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" section of the Device Manager, do a right click onto the listed SATA Controller, then choose the option "Update Driver Software..." > "Browse my Computer..." > "Let me pick..." > "Have Disk". Then navigate to the unzipped driver package you want to install > "OK".
Note: You will only be able to get any Intel RST driver installed, if
a) the SATA Controller mode is either "AHCI" or "RAID" and
b) the vendor of the SATA Controller is Intel (VEN_8086). You can check that by doing a right click onto the SATA Controller > "Properties" > "Details" > "Property" > "HardwareIDs".

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This is an existing machine, do I really need to re-install windows to use the correct driver?

No, you do not need to reinstall the OS.

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#34 | RE: Benchmark comparison of my favorite Intel RAID driver/OROM combinations datum

Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:28 pm (Last edited: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:36 pm)

Thank you for the prompt respons.

I have an intel c600 series chipset sata ahci controller.

When I have attempted to update the drivers...it responds with a message that the current drivers are up to date.

Do I try to attempt to install the drivers from the zip file for 'f6' installation?

Edit:

Since AHCI....which driver would you recommend. X79 chipset in AHCI! So many options ..

Edit2: RST or RSTe?

MY System:

Mainboard MSI X79A-GD45 Plus, core i7-3820, 8 x 4 1600 DDR3, MSI Hawk GeForce GTX 760
Adata SSD S510 120GB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD

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#35 | RE: Benchmark comparison of my favorite Intel RAID driver/OROM combinations datum

Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:45 pm

Zitat von scbypwr im Beitrag #34
When I have attempted to update the drivers...it responds with a message that the current drivers are up to date.

That doesn't happen, if you hit the "Have Disk" button.

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Do I try to attempt to install the drivers from the zip file for 'f6' installation?

Yes, but the zip file has to be unzipped before. Otherwise you cannot install the driver.

Zitat
Since AHCI....which driver would you recommend. X79 chipset in AHCI! So many options ..
RST or RSTe?

It depends on the OS you are running.
If you are running Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1, I recommend to install the latest RSTe driver v3.8.1.1006 WHQL.

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#36 | RE: Benchmark comparison of my favorite Intel RAID driver/OROM combinations datum

Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:55 pm (Last edited: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:56 pm)

I think I am getting confused about what goes where. I am using win 7 64bit.

I just updated the controller to ver 3.8.

The driver for the hdd and sdd still say microsoft. This is where I grab the 12.x versions and install there?

Thanks again for your help.

MY System:

Mainboard MSI X79A-GD45 Plus, core i7-3820, 8 x 4 1600 DDR3, MSI Hawk GeForce GTX 760
Adata SSD S510 120GB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD

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#37 | RE: Benchmark comparison of my favorite Intel RAID driver/OROM combinations datum

Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:05 pm

Zitat von scbypwr im Beitrag #36
I just updated the controller to ver 3.8.
The driver for the hdd and sdd still say microsoft.

The driver for the disks (HDD or SSD) resp. for the disk management is always a Microsoft one and belongs to the OS.
You have to look for the driver, which is used by the listed SATA Controller.

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#38 | RE: Benchmark comparison of my favorite Intel RAID driver/OROM combinations datum

Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:20 pm

OK...well. I uninstalled the RSTe and now have a version 12.8 in the controller software.

This is all very confusing. I just want the windows experience index to be 7.2 like it was with the old motherboard. It is currently 5.9 with the new one.

MY System:

Mainboard MSI X79A-GD45 Plus, core i7-3820, 8 x 4 1600 DDR3, MSI Hawk GeForce GTX 760
Adata SSD S510 120GB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD

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#39 | RE: Benchmark comparison of my favorite Intel RAID driver/OROM combinations datum

Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:27 pm

Zitat von scbypwr im Beitrag #38
OK...well. I uninstalled the RSTe and now have a version 12.8 in the controller software.

This really may be a good choice, if you want the best possible SSD performance.

Zitat
I just want the windows experience index to be 7.2 like it was with the old motherboard. It is currently 5.9 with the new one.

Are you sure, that the OS had detected the SSD as SSD?
You can check it by opening the Win7 Optimizer (Defrag Tool), but do not execute the tool!

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#40 | RE: Benchmark comparison of my favorite Intel RAID driver/OROM combinations datum

Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:36 pm (Last edited: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:39 pm)

Disk defrag does not discriminate between the two drives. One has a windows symbol on it.

Edit: The controller is labelled IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers

MY System:

Mainboard MSI X79A-GD45 Plus, core i7-3820, 8 x 4 1600 DDR3, MSI Hawk GeForce GTX 760
Adata SSD S510 120GB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD

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#41 | RE: Benchmark comparison of my favorite Intel RAID driver/OROM combinations datum

Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:47 pm

Is this what I need to do now?

I am receiving a lot of emails from users who bought a SSD drive, installed Windows 7 in IDE mode and then realize they need AHCI mode for faster SSD performance. Once you enable that in the BIOS during Windows 7 boot up, the OS will crash.

The common question is, is there a solve for this ?

To answer that question (and I do this safely with all Intel ICHR9/10 chipsets) there is a way to safely enable AHCI mode. Here we go:

1. Startup "Regedit
2. Open HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE / SYSTEM / CurrentControlset / Services
3. Open msahci
4. In the right field left click on "start" and go to Modify
5. In the value Data field enter "0" and click "ok"
6. exit "Regedit"
7. Reboot Rig and enter BIOS (hold "Delete" key while Booting

In your BIOS select "Integrated Peripherals" and OnChip PATA/SATA Devices. Now change SATA Mode to AHCI from IDE.

You now boot into windows 7, the OS will recognize AHCI and install the devices. Now the system needs one more reboot and voilla .. enjoy the improved SSD performance.

MY System:

Mainboard MSI X79A-GD45 Plus, core i7-3820, 8 x 4 1600 DDR3, MSI Hawk GeForce GTX 760
Adata SSD S510 120GB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD

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#42 | RE: Benchmark comparison of my favorite Intel RAID driver/OROM combinations datum

Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:48 pm

Zitat von scbypwr im Beitrag #40
Disk defrag does not discriminate between the two drives.

Can you please post a screenshot of the drives, which are listed by the Win7 Defrag Tool?

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#43 | RE: Benchmark comparison of my favorite Intel RAID driver/OROM combinations datum

Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:58 pm

Thanks again for your help.

MY System:

Mainboard MSI X79A-GD45 Plus, core i7-3820, 8 x 4 1600 DDR3, MSI Hawk GeForce GTX 760
Adata SSD S510 120GB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD

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#44 | RE: Benchmark comparison of my favorite Intel RAID driver/OROM combinations datum

Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:27 pm

@ scbypwr:
Thanks for the screenshots.
I suspect, that the OS hasn't detected your SSD as Solid State Drive. This may be the reason for the low WEI rating of your SSD performance.
Questions:
1. Where do you have installed the OS?
2. Have you ever defragmented the SSD? This would have been a big mistake, because each defragmentation will shorten the life of an SSD.

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#45 | RE: Benchmark comparison of my favorite Intel RAID driver/OROM combinations datum

Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:54 pm (Last edited: Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:55 pm)

Oops...I did defrag the SSD. The OS is installed on the SSD. If the SSD goes out...it won't be the worse thing to ever happen. I have my install disks for the os and all of my data is on the 1tb hdd.

MY System:

Mainboard MSI X79A-GD45 Plus, core i7-3820, 8 x 4 1600 DDR3, MSI Hawk GeForce GTX 760
Adata SSD S510 120GB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD

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